Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

[briz1744]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

As I said...if you are a young guy with a lot of time on your hands...then this is probably a big issue for you. If you are an older guy such as myself, with a wife, a family, and a house to take care of (as are all of the people I know who play this game) then its a very small issue. Just wanted to make that clear.

I'm in my 50s been buying madden since it came out on sega and to me its aBIG thing

[DeuceDouglas]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

I think they really just did not realize how important those features they took out were. That's why Looman called them "little things". He just did not know.

In the grand scheme of everything involved in a franchise-esque mode though, it really is a "little thing". Obviously it's a different level of priority for everyone but when you're building a new franchise mode from the ground up I think he was absolutely correct when he said they had things that were much higher priority.

[briz1744]

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yes, he started it on Operation Sports...where people care about such things. The masses do not. And EASports knows that...which is why they really dont care, and why they are doing this in the first place.

I think you underestimate ' the masses' as you call them whose voice isn't heard on here, my guess is like all consumers they want a quality product and are just as frustated with Madden as we are hence the falling sales figures over this gen.
I'd also guess that some would and some wouldn't care about these things the same as the people on here

[briz1744]

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What PR value?? Most people do not care in the slightest about editing rosters. Or franchise. I have a lot of friends who have played this game for years, and when I sometimes mention the issues that people bring up on this website, I am always greeted with a blank stare....they are not aware, and do not care. Not only that...but out of all my friends who play madden....at least 30 people..... I am the only one who starts a franchise and plays the game that way. All of the rest of them just play single games. People dont have interest or time to edit rosters. Unless you are a 15 year old kid...no one does. People have families and jobs.

I think you overestimate the impact of this.

I'm 51 and resent your insinuation and if you want to see the noise over this go visit loomans twitter timeline or other sites and forums

[SA1NT401]

If you were to poll EVERY single person who played madden ( impossible I know but play along) 95% would take editing just to have the option.

My .02


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[niggarachi]

In all my years of playing madden I never adjust player ratings. But I do want this feature in. For example. Last year the bills (my fav team) ran a 3-4 defense. I hate the 3-4 defense. So I rearranged the depth chart to reflect the 4-3 defense I was running using my custom playbook (also taken out) and instead of just moving the players to the spot I wanted them to play I change their position to reflect at positions I needed them to play. Now I can't do any of that and it will be very frustrating. I hope they get this Ina patch or something ... Come on Ea

[briz1744]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

In all my years of playing madden I never adjust player ratings. But I do want this feature in. For example. Last year the bills (my fav team) ran a 3-4 defense. I hate the 3-4 defense. So I rearranged the depth chart to reflect the 4-3 defense I was running using my custom playbook (also taken out) and instead of just moving the players to the spot I wanted them to play I change their position to reflect at positions I needed them to play. Now I can't do any of that and it will be very frustrating. I hope they get this Ina patch or something ... Come on Ea

Yes position changes at least those that were allowed in the early PS2 games like OLB 2 DE,DBs,OL,DL etc are a must

[moneal2001]

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@SA1NT yes everyone wants options. poll those same people and ask if they would want editing in exchange for rtp or many other improvements that would take similar resources to editing to implement, i would bet you would see similar results for editing being left out

[Big FN Deal]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

In all my years of playing madden I never adjust player ratings. But I do want this feature in. For example. Last year the bills (my fav team) ran a 3-4 defense. I hate the 3-4 defense. So I rearranged the depth chart to reflect the 4-3 defense I was running using my custom playbook (also taken out) and instead of just moving the players to the spot I wanted them to play I change their position to reflect at positions I needed them to play. Now I can't do any of that and it will be very frustrating. I hope they get this Ina patch or something ... Come on Ea

While I agree with this and did the same thing moving the Redskins back to a 4-3, I think a see the method to Looman's madness. In this thread http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ing-diary.html it seems to be indicating, implementing a new scheme is no longer instant but requires a far more realistic process. Now I agree with "it's your game you should be able to do whatever you want" but that should be secondary to making sure it's done right, ie realistic first.

I am really feeling Looman more and more on this stuff because too many times in the past User customization has been used as an excuse for things not being implemented to perform realistic. It seems he is taking the stance, at least with CC, that before worrying about everyone "doing it their way" he wants to make sure whatever is added operates "the right way", meaning reasonably NFL realistic and I agree.

[DeuceDouglas]

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If you were to poll EVERY single person who played madden ( impossible I know but play along) 95% would take editing just to have the option.

My .02

Not many people are going to say no to more options. Out of that 95% that would take it as an option I'm willing to bet a good chunk of them would say it being in or not isn't that huge of a deal to them.

[aholbert32]

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@SA1NT yes everyone wants options. poll those same people and ask if they would want editing in exchange for rtp or many other improvements that would take similar resources to editing to implement, i would bet you would see similar results for editing being left out

Comparing editing to RTP is ridiculous. 2 different teams work on those so its not like if they left in editing.....we wouldnt get RTP. A better comparison is twitter feeds vs. editing. The CCM team thought that adding twitter feeds was more important than implementing editing. They thought that twitter feeds were a more valuable addition.

[aholbert32]

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Not many people are going to say no to more options. Out of that 95% that would take it as an option I'm willing to bet a good chunk of them would say it being in or not isn't that huge of a deal to them.

Lets say you're "good chunk" is 65% of that 95%. That still leaves 30% of people who are furious they left out editing. Is it really smart for EA to leave anger 30% of its potential buyers?

[DeuceDouglas]

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Lets say you're "good chunk" is 65% of that 95%. That still leaves 30% of people who are furious they left out editing. Is it really smart for EA to leave anger 30% of its potential buyers?

If I was to take a guess, I'd put it at maybe 10-15% of that 95% that would be furious that they left out editing and even that number feels a bit high. And even if it is closer to the 30%, you'd have to figure that some of that number will still be buying the game regardless of whether or not they're furious.

[87Birdman]

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If I was to take a guess, I'd put it at maybe 10-15% of that 95% that would be furious that they left out editing and even that number feels a bit high. And even if it is closer to the 30%, you'd have to figure that some of that number will still be buying the game regardless of whether or not they're furious.

And then you have to figure in new customers or old ones that are returning due to the new physic engine.

[DNMHIII]

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If I was to take a guess, I'd put it at maybe 10-15% of that 95% that would be furious that they left out editing and even that number feels a bit high. And even if it is closer to the 30%, you'd have to figure that some of that number will still be buying the game regardless of whether or not they're furious.

I actually think that it's probably real close to 30% being really upset and with the features they took out like offline multi player, editing, and custom Playbooks, those are the people that would have the most incentive to just stick with 12 and completly ignore 13. I've got no problem skipping 13 because it just doesn't support my overall expectations without the features they removed.

If the game doesn't support your needs just don't buy it.