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Old 06-21-2012, 06:40 PM   #318
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Re: What Effect Has The Madden Community Had On Substantially Changing Next-Gen Madde

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Originally Posted by KBLover
Not if it's a lie, no, but developers for other games I play would say exactly that about a system - and then fix it for the better, not make it worse in future iterations.

Case in point - I play a WW2-based turn based game, I didn't like how they represent the distance on the hexes regarding artillery (it's inconsistent given how they say how big a hex is, but then allow arty to fire that far.

I got a straight answer: We are staying true to the original spirit of the board game that inspired our game, and could not develop a system that made more sense but stayed with our vision.

No smoke and mirrors, no "saving face", no "maybe next game, so buy the expansion and see if we got it in" type talk. There it is, plain as day for anyone who googles, comes to the forum, whatever.

That's what I'm talking about. Developers and development houses that are straight up honest about things, even if they don't make sense or could work better. They didn't say "we wanted a realistic WW2 game" and then gloss over the fact the system is actually unrealistic.

Another development house back in the day said what we all knew - the publisher forced them to release the game and won't allow patches.

Then of course the whole episode with Heroes of Might and Magic 6 where the development house also said it's Ubi's fautl, then made their own patches (as far as I understood) anyway because they really did want to make a worthy addition to the storied franchise.

Of course, there's also Markus of OOTP. He doesn't have a huge development house, team, or publisher. Yet he still improves and just calls a spade a spade.

That's what I want to see in developers. Oh and those all listen to their communities and you see evidence of it with each patch. Not each new version of the game, each patch.

I got that KB, but those examples you mentioned have nothing to do with the state of animations in this game lol.

I've seen other examples like you've mentioned as well. Like when the devs at Natural Motion said that they wanted to continue to support Backbreaker and that they were unhappy with the state they left it in, but that they couldn't because 505 games would not spring for anymore money to be thrown on a game that sold like 50k copies. Did it make it suck any less? A little. At least they were honest and you knew, but you still had a broken game after it's all said and done.

The answer to the question about the state of animations in Madden/NCAA, and only that question, however, is because they have never been good at animating. That is an answer you will never get. If you want another answer, also known as a lie, then more power to you.

That's all I'm saying.
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