Next community rosters should have "Penn State changes"

[t3g]

Since Penn State is pretty much paddling up s**t creek these days, is there a way we can stick it to Penn State in the next community roster update by lowering all the players' stats to like 50 to make it even? I say this becuase EA won't patch in a bowl ban (or will they?) for this school so we should make it up to the community to pick up the slack. That way they won't make a bowl game in simulation and it would make it even.

What do you think?

[CWSapp757]

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I strongly disagree. Mainly because that's my squad and I wanna play with them. With all due respect though can't you just do that on your own roster file man.

[Von Dozier]

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I was actually going to ask how roster makers were going to handle this. They're going to lose so many players (if not all)

[trojanterror]

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I was actually going to ask how roster makers were going to handle this. They're going to lose so many players (if not all)

It'll be pretty easy to deal with all of the player transfers. Just change the departed player to someone with a rating of about 50 (walk-on status).

Then for the PSU player that transfers to a new team, if they're good enough to get playing time this year, edit them onto the new team in place of a less deserving player.

[c_griffin212]

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They're going to have so many guys leave (I'm assuming) and joining other teams. It's going to be a real mess. It will probably take some time before everything is sorted out but I wanted to start my dynasty today. I'm not sure I'll be waiting.

[jimkel]

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I think people are overly anticipating a mass transfer out of Penn St. I find it doubtful. Where you will see the most issues will be in commitments for recruits in future years, not for players already on the current squad. As seen by other teams that have "bowl bans", the number of players that transferred were very limited. The seniors on the Penn State team are just going to play out their year in anticpation of the NFL if they are a prospect. The most likely players to leave Penn St are the underclassmen that had interest in other schools or wouldn't have much playing time and therefore with the sanctions, even a FCS team would be more attractive to them.

I don't think the community rosters should alter ratings, they are just not going to participate in a bowl and the scholarships affect future years. If that is the case, then Ohio State and other schools would have to receive the same treatment in the roster format. USC was on probation last year, with reduced scholarships, with no depth, and still was a top team within the Pac 12. I think it is too soon to drastically alter rosters on the possibility of what may come in the future months.

[scarface786]

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Why would you lower the current players ratings? Since all these sanctions came down are the players so depressed that their abilities have diminished? If EA wants to patch in lowering them to a one star team and lowering most of their pitches to an F that would be fine, but lowering the players ratings makes no sense.

[trojanterror]

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I think people are overly anticipating a mass transfer out of Penn St. I find it doubtful. Where you will see the most issues will be in commitments for recruits in future years, not for players already on the current squad. As seen by other teams that have "bowl bans", the number of players that transferred were very limited. The seniors on the Penn State team are just going to play out their year in anticpation of the NFL if they are a prospect and are not going to want to sit out a year to transfer to another FBS program. The most likely players to leave Penn St are the underclassmen that had interest in other schools or wouldn't have much playing time and therefore with the sanctions, even a FCS team would be more attractive to them.

I don't think the community rosters should alter ratings, they are just not going to participate in a bowl and the scholarships affect future years. If that is the case, then Ohio State and other schools would have to receive the same treatment in the roster format. USC was on probation last year, with reduced scholarships, with no depth, and still was a top team within the Pac 12. I think it is too soon to drastically alter rosters on the possibility of what may come in the future months.

You're missing a few things. First, regarding the bolded part, any players that transfer will be eligible to play IMMEDIATELY. They can transfer right now, participate in fall camp with the new team, and start from day 1 if they are good enough.

On top of that, the NCAA is actually considering a ruling that would cause the transferred players to be excluded from the 85 scholarship player limit. For example, if the University of Florida is at 85 scholarship players currently (which I don't think they are - this is just an example), they would still be able to take RB Silas Redd even though that would put them at 86 players. The NCAA is only considering this though, it's not done yet.

Lastly, EA Sports did incorporate USC's sanction into the game last year. They set USC's "Championship Contender" rating at a D+, and even if you won a NC the first year it barely went up. So it would be fair to attempt to virtually sanction Penn State in the game.

[jimkel]

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You're missing a few things. First, regarding the bolded part, any players that transfer will be eligible to play IMMEDIATELY. They can transfer right now, participate in fall camp with the new team, and start from day 1 if they are good enough.

On top of that, the NCAA is actually considering a ruling that would cause the transferred players to be excluded from the 85 scholarship player limit. For example, if the University of Florida is at 85 scholarship players currently (which I don't think they are - this is just an example), they would still be able to take RB Silas Redd even though that would put them at 86 players. The NCAA is only considering this though, it's not done yet.

Lastly, EA Sports did incorporate USC's sanction into the game last year. They set USC's "Championship Contender" rating at a D+, and even if you won a NC the first year it barely went up. So it would be fair to attempt to virtually sanction Penn State in the game.

Correct on the transfer rule, NCAA waived it but says that teams that take on a transfer from penn st lose a scholarship that following year.

And about USC, EA didn't lower the player ratings, just the contender status. This guy wants to take a player like Silas and make him 50 overall

[K0ZZ]

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Ratings shouldn't be changed, it's not like they are telling all the players 'Okay guize you have to play terrible naow'.

If the player transfers they will be moved to the new team, if not they stay as is. Transfers will be replaced by next best and have their ratings adjusted accordingly. I realize there's no draft classes exports, but it's not right to turn PSU into a FCS squad even though in real life they have talent.

Put them as an independent or adjust them in your own roster file, there's no issue with personal manipulation to incur the death penalty on them, but as it is the community rosters are provided to give a 'true to life' experience and there's no true to life for example for Silas Redd to be a 50 OVR that can run a 6.11 40 and had absolutely no football talent.

The transfers by all means should be in, random nerfing just for the heck of it shouldn't be done, let individuals do that at their own discretion.

[jimkel]

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Also the NCAA waived the transfer clause for USC and not many players took advantage of it

[dkrause1971]

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You're missing a few things. First, regarding the bolded part, any players that transfer will be eligible to play IMMEDIATELY. They can transfer right now, participate in fall camp with the new team, and start from day 1 if they are good enough.

On top of that, the NCAA is actually considering a ruling that would cause the transferred players to be excluded from the 85 scholarship player limit. For example, if the University of Florida is at 85 scholarship players currently (which I don't think they are - this is just an example), they would still be able to take RB Silas Redd even though that would put them at 86 players. The NCAA is only considering this though, it's not done yet.

Lastly, EA Sports did incorporate USC's sanction into the game last year. They set USC's "Championship Contender" rating at a D+, and even if you won a NC the first year it barely went up. So it would be fair to attempt to virtually sanction Penn State in the game.

I don't think he really missed it on the exodus comment. What i think he should have added is its not likely seniors are going to bail at the end of July to teams they have to learn the playbook for, systems they might not be use to playing in and so forth. Its not a video game where you can just literally plug and play anyone. They know where they stand with the current coaching staff and i think most will stay. I would agree the most likely to move are the freshman and sophomores.

[K0ZZ]

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There is a pretty big difference in a 2 and four year ban. Incoming freshman would only have bowl eligibility for one year with redshirt status.

I wouldn't have an issue with EA patching in 'updated' pitch ratings for them, but like I said their current players aren't just magically terrible and that's not the path the community rosters should take. It should be up to individual discretion.

[jakeandrew]

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What is the deadline for Penn State student-athletes to transfer and still be eligible to play this year? It must be fast approaching, I'm sure.

[EddieK76]

Re: Next community rosters should have "Penn State changes"

What is the deadline for Penn State student-athletes to transfer and still be eligible to play this year? It must be fast approaching, I'm sure.

They can transfer to any school as long as they have not participated in practices and or games. Theoretically they could not practice at all and transfer to a school mid season but only if they have not practiced or played in a game with PSU. Also, they must transfer no later than the 2013 season.