NCAA Football 13 Tuner Update Released, Coach Trust Points and LB Reaction Adjusted

[BA2929]

Re: NCAA Football 13 Tuner Update Released, Coach Trust Points and LB Reaction Adjust

So they fixed something not many people complained about.

Lots of people complained about the option. They just didn't fix the portion of the option that people complained about.

[PowerofRed25]

Re: NCAA Football 13 Tuner Update Released, Coach Trust Points and LB Reaction Adjust

I'm confused. I downloaded the tuner and have played a couple games since, both of them with me utilizing an option offense and I did not see any difference in the way CPU LB's react. It'd be nice if they told us in what way they fixed it because on the surface, I don't see anything different from before.

What I did notice is that DB's still don't react to the option from time to time, which is what the problem has always been. Guess that comes later.

[Tovarich]

Re: NCAA Football 13 Tuner Update Released, Coach Trust Points and LB Reaction Adjust

In all their testing?

All their testing may have been about 5 minutes. It couldn't have been longer than that given how many issues there are.

[Scott812313]

Re: NCAA Football 13 Tuner Update Released, Coach Trust Points and LB Reaction Adjust

I don't get what your saying I had AI try three field goals inside 35 yards. They missed 2 of 3.

Really? I'm in week 3 of my second season in dynasty and I've only seen the cpu miss 1 fg that was in the kickers range. The FG kicking against me has been completely absurd.

[jello1717]

Re: NCAA Football 13 Tuner Update Released, Coach Trust Points and LB Reaction Adjust

Really? I'm in week 3 of my second season in dynasty and I've only seen the cpu miss 1 fg that was in the kickers range. The FG kicking against me has been completely absurd.

Did you adjust their slider?

[CRMosier_LM]

From what I seen on default All American, Linebackers react slow to it and DB's in they are in man, don't notice it at 1st because they follow the WR 1st. Block shedding across the board seemed to have been tuned down as well. Not seeing many defensive linemen instantly shedding their blocks on option plays or run plays to the outside like before. Nor if you run up the middle do they instantly do a 180 and tackle you.

OL do a much better job blocking now too. How ever they get highly confused if you blitz. Quite funny to watch a linemen trying to decide who to block, the incoming LB or the DL right in front of him.

QBs run much harder now on option plays. Seen a couple new break tackle animations. Over all the break tackle attempts by ball carriers have increased. They try to spin out of tackles a lot more. They aren't successful at it though most of the time, but it is nice they at least attempted to break the tackle. When they do successfully break a tackle though, look out, they put it in 3rd gear.

Defensive pursuit across the board seemed to have been tuned down as well. Their catch up speed isn't as fast as it use to be. So now you literally can see players running around another player only 3 feet away from them and not get caught.

Seen Georgia Tech do an option play from their own 5 yard line. QB was in the end zone, LB came, I thought oh cool safety, nope, QB just ran around him and turned what normally would have been a 8 yard lost and a safety to a 15 yard gain. Once he got to the corner he was gone.

That seems to be the overall theme now. If they can turn the corner, they are gone, for a good 8 yards or more. Screen plays have improved, DTs don't run as fast up the middle anymore. So now you will see screen plays go for big yards.

The CPU is kind of like a roller coaster now. 1st quarter they play really good. 2nd and 3rd quarter they play so so, come 4th quarter they kick it up to high gear and the best players on the team really step up.

All in all the CPU can now run the option pretty effective. Their positive yard rate success rate is around 70%. A lot of 3 and 4 yard gains, with some 16 and 30 yard gains sprinkled in with some 4 yard loses every now and then.

Way better then before.

Now EA needs to fine tune special teams and defensive ends pass rush.

The ONLY things that were adjusted were LB not reacting correctly to the option and coach trust in rtg. That is it, not blocking or QB running the ball. Those 2 items and those only.

That being said the linebacker pursuit did seem to work much better vs the option. Ran the option about 50% of my run plays and didn't see any issues.

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[superjames1992]

Re: NCAA Football 13 Tuner Update Released, Coach Trust Points and LB Reaction Adjust

If only they could fix the HORRIBLE cpu qb sacks on screen passes. In all their testing, did they NEVER catch this was an issue????

Amen, brother.

[jfsolo]

Re: NCAA Football 13 Tuner Update Released, Coach Trust Points and LB Reaction Adjust

The ONLY things that were adjusted were LB not reacting correctly to the option and coach trust in rtg. That is it, not blocking or QB running the ball. Those 2 items and those only.

That being said the linebacker pursuit did seem to work much better vs the option. Ran the option about 50% of my run plays and didn't see any issues.

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I'm sure you probably don't know the answer to this, so I'm really just asking the question quasi-rhetorically, but why would they release a tuner making only one gameplay change.

As someone with no knowledge of how this process works, it would seem logical to me that they would make this change to the LB's, that they would make some other gameplay tweaks as well.

Unless they're finally changing their M.O. in terms of how often they release tuners, then I would think that they would want to put more into this one.

Skillz is quite perceptive about gameplay and A.I. changes, so I'm going to take a chance and download this tuner and see if their have been other improvements. I can always delete it again if need be.

[twimstaxs]

Re: NCAA Football 13 Tuner Update Released, Coach Trust Points and LB Reaction Adjust

I'm sure you probably don't know the answer to this, so I'm really just asking the question quasi-rhetorically, but why would they release a tuner making only one gameplay change.

As someone with no knowledge of how this process works, it would seem logical to me that they would make this change to the LB's, that they would make some other gameplay tweaks as well.

Unless they're finally changing their M.O. in terms of how often they release tuners, then I would think that they would want to put more into this one.

Skillz is quite perceptive about gameplay and A.I. changes, so I'm going to take a chance and download this tuner and see if their have been other improvements. I can always delete it again if need be.

The reason he knows the answer better than SKillz is because he actually read what EA said. They only tweaked the LB things. If you go and read the twitter posts that are linked on the first post you would know the same thing. Just because someone plays the damn game and see something different doesnt change the fact that the only tweaked ONE thing. They did not say they changed anything else but the LB stuff. Here is another link https://twitter.com/eancaafootball if you still want to question. SOME PEOPLE!!!

[CRMosier_LM]

I'm sure you probably don't know the answer to this, so I'm really just asking the question quasi-rhetorically, but why would they release a tuner making only one gameplay change.

As someone with no knowledge of how this process works, it would seem logical to me that they would make this change to the LB's, that they would make some other gameplay tweaks as well.

Unless they're finally changing their M.O. in terms of how often they release tuners, then I would think that they would want to put more into this one.

Skillz is quite perceptive about gameplay and A.I. changes, so I'm going to take a chance and download this tuner and see if their have been other improvements. I can always delete it again if need be.

Would you want them to take an extra week or so to adjust and QA more changes or just release the elements they have as they adjust them.

That is the only Gameplay change on this tuner. Anyone who says different is incorrect and is just seeing what they want to see. I wish there were other adjustments but there are not at this time unfortunately.

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[booker21]

Re: NCAA Football 13 Tuner Update Released, Coach Trust Points and LB Reaction Adjust

Could someone upload the tuner for offline players?

[nortobc]

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I find it odd that they didn't say "in what way" they changed the way LB's react to the option, otherwise its just a vauge statement that we are still left to figure out for ourselves?????

This just in:

EA patches players' reaction when playing a football game.

[nortobc]

Re: Tuning update notification

So far I think it means that they just defend it even more perfectly than before. I usually like to do a dynasty with Army, but I skipped it last year the option was so broken. I'm not all the way through the game yet, but it's being blown up worse than ever.

I kill the CPU with the option. Hopefully this makes the option harder.

[Tovarich]

Re: NCAA Football 13 Tuner Update Released, Coach Trust Points and LB Reaction Adjust

The ONLY things that were adjusted were LB not reacting correctly to the option and coach trust in rtg. That is it, not blocking or QB running the ball. Those 2 items and those only.
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Then EA has no clue what they're doing. If LB's are reacting differently to the option than blocking ABSOLUTELY MUST be different. The line better be blocking differently depending on where LB's are, or where D-Linemen are or where safeties are. If they're not blocking differently, something is broken. If the QB isn't affected in decision making or where he goes with the ball, something else is broken. There is no such thing as affecting only one thing in gameplay. Tweaking anything SHOULD change something else too...and based on my 5 games since, there are several things different.

[nortobc]

Re: NCAA Football 13 Tuner Update Released, Details Included (8-1-12)

I personally don't feel anything is wrong with swat/pick. Remember the defender has to see the ball to react, there aren't anymore "user eyes behind the head" swats/picks anymore.

THIS. I think its funny that some people get mad because they can't switch to the DB and swat or try to INT the ball. Guess what. If the DB has his back to the ball and can't see the ball, he should not be able to INT the ball. Just because you control him and see the ball doesn't mean the DB sees the ball.