Why do so many people cheese?!

[micahclay]

The last 5 games I have played have been against people who cheese the whole game. I don't know how to stop it (I'm not that great of a player) and so I keep losing. Anyone else have this problem?

[JerzeyReign]

Re: Why do so many people cheese?!

The only way to get rid of that problem is to play with sim people -- which is hard right now since playing with friends isn't working properly.

I play online and I can beat most cheesers. What things are you seeing? For most things a sim response can help.

[micahclay]

Re: Why do so many people cheese?!

What things are you seeing? For most things a sim response can help.

I don't know if it technically qualifies, but they take threes nearly every possession, and make 70% of them, even with great defense. They try to steal every inbound pass, take charges at halfcourt, and so forth.

But, I think I may be getting the hang of it. Last guy I played picked the heat. I picked the Bobcats. I won by 27.

[Conda]

Re: Why do so many people cheese?!

I don't know if it technically qualifies, but they take threes nearly every possession, and make 70% of them, even with great defense. They try to steal every inbound pass, take charges at halfcourt, and so forth.

But, I think I may be getting the hang of it. Last guy I played picked the heat. I picked the Bobcats. I won by 27.

Good. I think the "cheesers" just have a low basketball IQ and are desperate for a win. I just play "basketball" and make adjustments to the nonsense. If they want to shoot 3's every possession, I contest them the best I can (they can't make'em all), box out to get rebounds, and score easy buckets. If they want to take charges I anticipate it and blow by them and make a smart play for a bucket. I use the defender's momentum against them when they try to steal in the full court & inbound pass situations by using good ball handlers and ball movement. Master the Isomotion dribble moves to get the ball up the court. Some of them get the point when they see the BS isn't working anymore, but the majority of them just quit.

[Norris_Cole]

Re: Why do so many people cheese?!

People wants to win no matter of what, and on top of that this game rewards more the cheesy style and not simulation basketball

[stillfeelme]

Re: Why do so many people cheese?!

People wants to win no matter of what, and on top of that this game rewards more the cheesy style and not simulation basketball

Yeah for quickmatches there are multiple problems. They made the game so that a casual player can come on and compete so they toned the sim settings down. It is way too easy to steal for quickmatches. You can play cheesy and face little to no penalties. Spam the steal button, hold turbo all day and no worries.

[Pared]

Re: Why do so many people cheese?!

It's funny... I had a stretch the last time I played where I ran up against 8 or so sim-like players.

The worst part about the quick match on 360 is your opponent doesn't show up in your "recently played" list.

I would have liked to send them a message mentioning how much I enjoyed the game.

[Norris_Cole]

Re: Why do so many people cheese?!

Yeah for quickmatches there are multiple problems. They made the game so that a casual player can come on and compete so they toned the sim settings down. It is way too easy to steal for quickmatches. You can play cheesy and face little to no penalties. Spam the steal button, hold turbo all day and no worries.

Exactly, at least last year we had sliders for oline leagues and unranked matches , but this year...

[Vni]

Re: Why do so many people cheese?!

Yeah for quickmatches there are multiple problems. They made the game so that a casual player can come on and compete so they toned the sim settings down. It is way too easy to steal for quickmatches. You can play cheesy and face little to no penalties. Spam the steal button, hold turbo all day and no worries.

That's true. Plus they should have reduced the number of fouls allowed per players before they foul out since it's only 5 minutes quarters.

Anyway to OP I would only suggest you to play against people you know, or people here on OS. Even if you win, it's no fun.

[strifed169]

Re: Why do so many people cheese?!

I am 28-6 in quick matches and the majority I face is cheesers, Spurs are the ultimate cheese stoppers if you play zone and rotate correctly, only recent losses came from Warrior players, just can't stop Curry's OP *** jumper

[Adampa1006]

Does anyone know how to stop players who use spin move every time? Or excessive pump fakes that seem to get my whole team in air? Mainly ppl use Jordan than run down court, do spin move, and dunk it or pump fake and still get it in. So annoying players who do the exact same thing every time down the court.

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[jersez]

Re: Why do so many people cheese?!

I rarely play online but when I do, I go into coaching settings and put play calling to auto. This stops me from running up and down the court with them, and makes me slow down and get a quality shot.

It's damn near impossible to play on ball defense with my internet lag, but I do it and I get rewarded for it. I think 2k put it, so the game recognizes off-ball users. More shots go in, no matter how well the shot was contested, this goes for offline too.

Because of the lag, I mix in on-ball and off ball. I usually want the cheeser taking jumpers(contested jumpers), because they will eventually stop going in, or I just let one player go off and shut the rest of the team down.

The main points are you have to be patient. Don't rush and play your game. I rarely play online so things might be different.

[hesko]

Re: Why do so many people cheese?!

to win. its just apart ofthe human controlled experience homie.

[marvinong]

Re: Why do so many people cheese?!

My only mindset when playing online is:

RANK DOES NOT DETERMINE SKILL

So whether a person is on HOF or Prospect, always be on the lookout when playing them but also play by the rules and win or lose by your own merit.

[daveberg]

Re: Why do so many people cheese?!

Sadly, I am addicted to playing this game online. The problem is - I hate it.

I love offline, it's a far greater sim experience with slider tweaks and roster adjustments, but I just don't get that rush of beating the CPU that you get when playing someone online.

To the point, I'm a fairly decent player, I like to play as realistic as possible. No turbo, post ups, run plays, onball D etc, but none of that matters online as 95% of all players I come across are cheesers. Simply put, it's no fun playing against people who have no idea how basketball should be played. It doesn't matter how 'sim' I play, the opponent turns the game into a session of NBA Jam and, to me, ruins the whole feel of the experience.

I want to play games about as close to real basketball broadcasts as you can get. Instead, I see nothing but red, as the hate builds up watching my opponent doing the following:

• Turbo hound = From inbounds to other end of the court, opponent has finger on turbo, normally seen running around in circles around the 3 until an opening is visible so he can make full use of exploiting the power dunk (Normally with LBJ of Durant)
• Full court charges = Sending his team on a full court press so he can try to take charges at every opportunity.
• Zone defense = ALL GAME LONG. Not only does he sit in zone all game long, but he also plays offball D and sends the AI to double team you, whilst he comes over as a THIRD defender to swarm you. Problem is, the passing in this game is so slow, by the time you've 'floated' the ball over to the open man, his triple team is on you again in half a second.
• Spam steal masher = almost completely unable to post up in most matches, seeing as the double and triple team comes almost automatically from cheesers, once locked in, the button mashing ensues, and more often than not, the ball is ripped from you with no whistle.
• Post up to spin = OVER and OVER again. A typical cheeser has no real skill set in the post other than this manoeuvre.
• Spin layup/dunk = A BIG favourite with cheese heads. Normally used with Rose/Westbrook/CP3 or a number of athletic guards. The ability to watch users spin through 4 players untouched and put the ball in the hoop is laughable.
• Pump fake party = cheese head finally gets to the paint, then pumps not once...not twice...not three tim....you get the message. AI defenders sucked up into jumping leading to an easy bucket.
• Corner 3's = your opponent is on the break for the twelve time after ripping you on a triple team (Sigh) with a 3 on 1 situation, instead of going to the basket he waits for the game to help set up both his wing players on the 3 and dishes to one of them for a 95% cert corner trey. Knuckles are close to smashing the TV.......
  
  
  It's the above drivel that I am constantly going up against online, and it leads me to the biggest rage outs ever. But it's not unexpected. Most people playing this game are just that - gamers. Just casual basketball fans with nothing on their mind other than protecting their ego and getting a precious 'W' by any means possible. That's just how the online world works. Skill will always take a back seat to cheesing and exploiting game flaws to get a victory.
  
  It sucks it has to be this way, because this is a beautiful game if played properly, just don't look for that experience online.....