BIG FAT THANK YOU EA and Redshirt_EA

[Smirkin Dirk]

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Sorry for the dumb question guys, am new to the series.

These tuners are patches, right?

[Ninjoid]

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Much better, thanks Redshirt, much appreciated.....

Is there anything you can do for the cpu instigating a fight now, with itself (in cpu v cpu or coach mode) or against a user team? If we can get that sorted then the game would be complete.

Thanks

[JezFranco]

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Sorry for the dumb question guys, am new to the series.
These tuners are patches, right?

Well, not really.

A patch is downloaded before the game is started, and is then a part of the game, like it or not.
A patch could contain new code, like bug fixes.

The tuners a small (or big) adjustments of the already existing values of the available sliders in the game settings.
In the settings you as an offline user can then choose to use and earlier tuner if you liked it better, whereas the online game always use the latest tuner.

So, if you don't like 1.04 you can just change your local settings and use 1.02 if you preferred that one (offline).

[jake19ny]

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Could not agree more....Big Big Thanks.

[Redshirt_EA]

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Well, not really.

A patch is downloaded before the game is started, and is then a part of the game, like it or not.
A patch could contain new code, like bug fixes.

The tuners a small (or big) adjustments of the already existing values of the available sliders in the game settings.
In the settings you as an offline user can then choose to use and earlier tuner if you liked it better, whereas the online game always use the latest tuner.

So, if you don't like 1.04 you can just change your local settings and use 1.02 if you preferred that one (offline).

The only real difference is instead of having ~30 sliders there are several thousand tuning parameters that can be altered with the tuning updates and they can affect behavior at a much finer level of detail.

This is still far more limited than what can be done in a patch, but has the advantage of very quick turnaround times. A minor tuning update can be done in about a day, whereas any patch will take a minimum of 2-3 weeks, significantly longer if it has many changes.

[CupCrazyManiac]

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The only real difference is instead of having ~30 sliders there are several thousand tuning parameters that can be altered with the tuning updates and they can affect behavior at a much finer level of detail.

This is still far more limited than what can be done in a patch, but has the advantage of very quick turnaround times. A minor tuning update can be done in about a day, whereas any patch will take a minimum of 2-3 weeks, significantly longer if it has many changes.

and do not forget a PATCH costs a lot more money as the Tuner Updates ;-)

[Redshirt_EA]

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and do not forget a PATCH costs a lot more money as the Tuner Updates ;-)

This is true also, though I can't imagine getting more than the 2-4 patches we get every year given the time they take -- even if they were "free". I'm guessing (with no numbers to back it up) that the development costs are the biggest part of the cost of making a patch. (In practice those costs might not count the same to bean counting types because they don't change the bottom line -- they just eat at the development time for the next year's product).

[canucksss]

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Is there anything you can do for the cpu instigating a fight now, with itself (in cpu v cpu or coach mode) or against a user team? If we can get that sorted then the game would be complete.

Thanks

THIS! this would be awesome addition to now an ALMOST complete NEW NHL 13 (BUT please, i dont want to see 2-3 fights per game arrgghh.... )

[hardrockin006]

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I know I'm late to the party but I also wanted to thank RedShirt and the EA Team for addressing the penalty issue. Has made the game much better and I find myself wanting to play it as consistently (i.e. close to nightly basis) as I have the other games in the franchise.

[CupCrazyManiac]

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This is true also, though I can't imagine getting more than the 2-4 patches we get every year given the time they take -- even if they were "free". I'm guessing (with no numbers to back it up) that the development costs are the biggest part of the cost of making a patch. (In practice those costs might not count the same to bean counting types because they don't change the bottom line -- they just eat at the development time for the next year's product).

Yes, i hear you.

I wish there was more development and testing time...

As others said, you coming here Redshirt, is a sample of perfect community-developer communication, feedback and action.

Much appreciated!!!

[CupCrazyManiac]

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Jason, pls can you tell me the dif. between a NEW TUNER SET and a NEW GAME MODUS TUNER???

Is NEW TUNER only for PlayNow Mode?

Thanx in advance!
Much appreciated!

[Vikes1]

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Anyway, the whole penalty debacle, You coming here Redshirt, is a sample of perfect community-developer communication, feedback and action.

Very well said Jez! And so very true.

With NHL '12'...we kinda saw that kind of communication nearly dry up. And only got I believe two tuners the whole year. Whereas this year, wow...in what, three weeks we've gotten four tuners. And Jason back posting...that's awesome! And dang helpful too.

To me, it just makes the whole atmosphere surrounding the game, board, heck...even just playing the game feel better believing that EAC cares about the product and how we've experiencing it. Good and bad. Imho...Jason and our membership deserve a pat on the back for making this happen.

[Al_Tito13]

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Thanks a lot to you guys at EA for adressing the penalties issue and more specifically to Redshirt for coming here to look at our feedbacks and to keep us informed, really appreciated. Redshirt, I would have a question, is tuning down the goalies on passing plays and desperate saves a considered possibility right now for the next tuners/patch? Thanks!

[Redshirt_EA]

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Thanks a lot to you guys at EA for adressing the penalties issue and more specifically to Redshirt for coming here to look at our feedbacks and to keep us informed, really appreciated. Redshirt, I would have a question, is tuning down the goalies on passing plays and desperate saves a considered possibility right now for the next tuners/patch? Thanks!

I'm assuming you mean on passes in close to the net?

There's a big thread on the EA forums on this subject and there are mixed opinions on it, so I'm not sure if it'll get adjusted. FWIW my vote is with yours.

[onlybygrace]

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I'm assuming you mean on passes in close to the net?

There's a big thread on the EA forums on this subject and there are mixed opinions on it, so I'm not sure if it'll get adjusted. FWIW my vote is with yours.

You know, its definitely harder to pull these plays off, and I haven't done any hard experiments, but it seems like if you dont always go to this play...it can be pulled off. I like that these plays are difficult, but if they were maybe just a little bit less difficult it would be nice.

Keep the challenge, but increase the odds by maybe 5 percent.