Non-Star Championship Team

[kobez2417]

Re: Non-Star Championship Team

I like the way the whole point of your thread is to make a team with, "no stars," that can win the championship, but the 4 teams that you named all had at least one star. Celtics had KG, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Magic had Dwight, Mavs had Dirk. Sure they may have been upsets and surprises but they all did have one star which goes completely against your purpose.

Let me clarify "stars". The reason why I decided to exclude this years and last years all-stars are because these are the players that are currently in style, much like a particular fashion. Calling them mainstream would be a little harsh, but you get the idea. If you go watch the Celtics, Magic, and most obviously, the Mavs, there was a certain culture that characterized these teams. Very different from today's Heat, Knicks, and up to some extend the Thunder. I'm not saying that these teams don't have culture, but the concept of being a team isn't as capitalized on as before.

For example, the difference between the championship Lakers in 09,10 and the lottery bound Lakers is not talent, but a sense of identity and team culture.

I asked for you to identify a group of guys that are talented yes, but based on what you've seen, come up with a group that can establish a "winning" culture. What kind of a culture? You decide.

[GAM3R4LYF3]

Re: Non-Star Championship Team

Let me clarify "stars". The reason why I decided to exclude this years and last years all-stars are because these are the players that are currently in style, much like a particular fashion. Calling them mainstream would be a little harsh, but you get the idea. If you go watch the Celtics, Magic, and most obviously, the Mavs, there was a certain culture that characterized these teams. Very different from today's Heat, Knicks, and up to some extend the Thunder. I'm not saying that these teams don't have culture, but the concept of being a team isn't as capitalized on as before.

For example, the difference between the championship Lakers in 09,10 and the lottery bound Lakers is not talent, but a sense of identity and team culture.

I asked for you to identify a group of guys that are talented yes, but based on what you've seen, come up with a group that can establish a "winning" culture. What kind of a culture? You decide.

Okay, I get you, that makes a whole lot more sense in terms of what you were saying about those 4 teams. I know that I can use players from different teams but the best example I can think of right now of a team with a winning culture without one of those upper tier all stars (the Kobes, Lebrons, KDs, Melos, CP3s etc.) would be the Spurs. Yes Tony and Tim were all stars this year but they are in no way huge stars. If you gave them another dynamic bench scorer (similar to what Jamal Crawford has been doing for the Clips) then I fully think that they'd be able to win it all.

[Captain Fear]

Re: Non-Star Championship Team

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Sg:Klay thompson
Sf:Kawhi Leonard
Pf:Kenneth Faried
C:Greg Monroe

[Jarbeez]

Re: Non-Star Championship Team

I think the Pacers have a legit shot at it really. Paul George was on the All Star team this year, but I would not classify him as an upper tier star by any means.

I think they have what it takes with George Hill, Paul George, Danny Granger, David West and Hibbert.

They are developing that identity you are talking about. Maybe add a JJ Redick as a sharpshooter off the bench and replace Hansbrough with a more athletic defensive presence at PF off the bench if you really want to solidify this team, but I think they can do it even as constructed.

[KillerHog471]

Re: Non-Star Championship Team

A team would have to be built around efficiency, defense, and rebounding. I would say:

• Mike Conley
• Iman Shumpert
• Gallonari
• Vuvevic
• Marc Gasol
• Gth man: Taj Gibson
• Reserves
• Andrew Nicholson
• Kenneth Faried
• Jeff Teague
• Jason Thompson
• Tony Allen

[Skuxx24]

Re: Non-Star Championship Team

This talk of non star teams had me thinking would you guys consider the bad boy pistons of the 80's early 90's to fit the bill??

I know they had Isaiah Thomas but apart from that they had guys they were good but not great players like Mark Agguire,Rick Mahorn,Bill Lambieer, Vinny Johnson and Joe Dumars among others. I think they fit the bill to an extent what do you guys think??

[Jarbeez]

Re: Non-Star Championship Team

This talk of non star teams had me thinking would you guys consider the bad boy pistons of the 80's early 90's to fit the bill??

I know they had Isaiah Thomas but apart from that they had guys they were good but not great players like Mark Agguire,Rick Mahorn,Bill Lambieer, Vinny Johnson and Joe Dumars among others. I think they fit the bill to an extent what do you guys think??

I think having one player (Isaiah) that was included in the NBA's all time top 50 takes them out. Though I do agree that it was their style of play more than their star player that made them a great team. However, I believe Dumars was a multiple year all star as well, and others on that team were also. So I'm not sure?