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  • Jrocc23
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    • May 2010
    • 3216

    #676
    Re: NBA 2K14 Features Crew Mode - 3-on-3 or 5-on-5

    Originally posted by bottledwaterfan25
    I wouldn't worry about justifying anything to these guys. MarvinOida just likes to be a contrarian and argue for the sake of arguing on here.
    Yeah, I'm done. Marv actually gives a good argument sometimes, but that Rambo dude...lol.
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    • Ramboooo
      Banned
      • Oct 2011
      • 704

      #677
      Re: NBA 2K14 Features Crew Mode - 3-on-3 or 5-on-5

      Made a list of Pros and Cons (imo) for 2K14 Crew vs 2K11's crew ...


      PROS:

      - No cheaters (assuming 2k share mods were cleaned up)

      Dudes go on and on about "2K11 crew so awesommme" but fact is is the mode was literally broke. 8 footers, uncapped cheaters were so common, that you actually were surprised when it didn't happen.

      - No CPU involvement

      Still not getting this fascination with 2vs2 or 3vs3 while having half a team that are CPU? Ain't nothing realistic about having bots replace humans in a mode which was designed to replicate the true 5on5 human experience -- which is how everyone experiences basketball irl. So I'm not just making this up, there's precedence from the sport in real life.

      - Servers

      It would take literally 30min or so to find any game, let alone one that was cheater-free. The performance and lag of the game has improved dramatically from then to now. 5on5 teamup is pretty seamless, so it's safe to assume that crew will be able to handle 5on5 crew with ease. Lagouts happened occasionally / rare in 2k13 blacktop, but was easily remedied by deleting your game settings. No where near the epidemic of 2k11's haaariible servers.

      - 3on3 crews

      Those worried about not having enough players for Crew, should rest easy that this option is now available. You don't need 4 other players, just 2 more. The game provided OPTIONS for each case.

      - 2K14's Gameplay

      Early indications are that it will be more balanced, and the game played on superstar sim. Which is welcome news. How the game plays remains to be seen until launch, but it's safe to say that we have more options at our disposal and a better isomotion system. 2K13 controls > 2K11 control's by a long shot. Still this "pro" is tentative.


      CONS:

      No Arena

      While this isn't a game changer for some, it is for many others. But the environment and audio is still presentation that doesn't affect gameplay. However...

      No Refs, simulation-style fouls with FT's

      This does affect gameplay. Info on this isn't entirely clear, but looks like you'll just get the ball at top of key. How it plays out remains to be seen. Will we just intentionally foul every time to stop fast breaks? I'm not a big of FT's in blacktop cuz it slows down the game, but wondering how this is going to implemented.

      Play to 21 instead of 4 quarters

      Now this is a gameplay element as well, and this kinda sucks. But this also remains to be seen how it will play out. I kinda liked the fact that games didn't last 1 hr for one game in 2k13 blacktop. You could crank out a few games in an hour, and still feel like there was a lot of substance to it. The thing that's concerning is going from 3 to 5 players, and yet the same end-score, so that will mean less touches and less stats per player. 4 quarters would be nice and more sim, but even increasing the end-score to 31 would be better. But again, who knows, we may come to find out that it's tougher to score with 5on5 instead of 3on3, so game may take longer and they'll be more stats like rebs, blocks, steals, just not as high ppg.




      So at best, this a poor man's crew. At worst, it's blacktop 2.0. I think it's somewhere inbetween. So ... crewTop?

      Either way, I'll still have fun with this mode. A BIG reason why is because of the integrity of the mode.... no cheaters, no CPU, leaderboards that really reflect who's good because of THEIR SKILLS not because they're good at hacking their player or calling a 1-3-1 CPU Zone. It ain't 2k11's crew, but I can't wait to play it cuz I know it'll be fun facing off vs all these different my players with my squad.

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      • Ramboooo
        Banned
        • Oct 2011
        • 704

        #678
        Re: NBA 2K14 Features Crew Mode - 3-on-3 or 5-on-5

        Originally posted by Jrocc23
        Yeah, I'm done. Marv actually gives a good argument sometimes, but that Rambo dude...lol.
        says the dude that didn't read my response. says the dude that can't logically respond to what I said in any way that is in-line with realistic basketball or simulation... done too

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        • bottledwaterfan25
          Rookie
          • Mar 2013
          • 272

          #679
          Re: NBA 2K14 Features Crew Mode - 3-on-3 or 5-on-5

          Originally posted by Ramboooo
          says the dude that didn't read my response. says the dude that can't logically respond to what I said in any way that is in-line with realistic basketball or simulation... done too

          I can respect your opinion about wanting the pure human v. human competition but you have to understand that this new format they've rolled out is just not practical, or popular for the large majority of crew players. You are in the minority with your viewpoint. Crew mode didn't become "The single most requested mode" (2k's words) because people wanted the 3v3 halfcourt and 5v5 human only format. It was so popular and requested based on how it was structured in 2k10 and 2k11 with the Comp. players. So for every one person like you who is all for the new format, there are probably 1,000 who disagree and would rather keep the 2k10, 2k11 format that has 5v5 full court whether you have 2,3,4, or 5 players on a team.
          "I've missed more than 9,000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed." - Michael Jordan

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          • Ramboooo
            Banned
            • Oct 2011
            • 704

            #680
            Re: NBA 2K14 Features Crew Mode - 3-on-3 or 5-on-5

            Originally posted by bottledwaterfan25
            I can respect your opinion about wanting the pure human v. human competition but you have to understand that this new format they've rolled out is just not practical, or popular for the large majority of crew players. You are in the minority with your viewpoint. Crew mode didn't become "The single most requested mode" (2k's words) because people wanted the 3v3 halfcourt and 5v5 human only format. It was so popular and requested based on how it was structured in 2k10 and 2k11 with the Comp. players. So for every one person like you who is all for the new format, there are probably 1,000 who disagree and would rather keep the 2k10, 2k11 format that has 5v5 full court whether you have 2,3,4, or 5 players on a team.
            where's the evidence that I'm in the minority, those are just random stat guesses. people like crew because they get to compete with their my players online in an arena, etc. I don't see how having a full squad would make it less popular mode, it'd make it more popular. there's just not a lot of evidence to support either of our opinions though...

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            • bottledwaterfan25
              Rookie
              • Mar 2013
              • 272

              #681
              Re: NBA 2K14 Features Crew Mode - 3-on-3 or 5-on-5

              Originally posted by Ramboooo
              where's the evidence that I'm in the minority, those are just random stat guesses. people like crew because they get to compete with their my players online in an arena, etc. I don't see how having a full squad would make it less popular mode, it'd make it more popular. there's just not a lot of evidence to support either of our opinions though...

              With all due respect my friend, there is a MOUNTAIN of evidence on: this message board, on LD2K's facebook post about crews, on Twitter, and on Youtube that suggests your viewpoint puts you in the minority on this new format. Once again though man, I respect what you're saying, I think most of us posting in these crew threads love competition; and going up against other players. I have played literally hundreds of crew games in the past, and I know that for me, and all my friends that played together we loved the format how it was in 2k11. Thing is, it's just not practical how they have decided to do it. For example, in my crew we had 8 people. However, with everyone being involved with classes, working,time with gf's and all that it's rare you get 5 people all online consistently. Sure you can get 3 or 4 people on alot more often but who wants to play half court?
              "I've missed more than 9,000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed." - Michael Jordan

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              • Ramboooo
                Banned
                • Oct 2011
                • 704

                #682
                Re: NBA 2K14 Features Crew Mode - 3-on-3 or 5-on-5

                Originally posted by bottledwaterfan25
                With all due respect my friend, there is a MOUNTAIN of evidence on: this message board, on LD2K's facebook post about crews, on Twitter, and on Youtube that suggests your viewpoint puts you in the minority on this new format. Once again though man, I respect what you're saying, I think most of us posting in these crew threads love competition; and going up against other players. I have played literally hundreds of crew games in the past, and I know that for me, and all my friends that played together we loved the format how it was in 2k11. Thing is, it's just not practical how they have decided to do it. For example, in my crew we had 8 people. However, with everyone being involved with classes, working,time with gf's and all that it's rare you get 5 people all online consistently. Sure you can get 3 or 4 people on alot more often but who wants to play half court?

                I think there's a lot of evidence for the demand of 2k11's version of crew. But does that necessarily mean it is specifically for having CPU in it? 2k11 format was 2vs2 or 3vs3 not by choice but because 4vs4 and 5vs5 would lag out. I'm just not seeing that having 5on5 would make the mode less popular. could be wrong

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                • bottledwaterfan25
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 272

                  #683
                  Re: NBA 2K14 Features Crew Mode - 3-on-3 or 5-on-5

                  Originally posted by Ramboooo
                  I think there's a lot of evidence for the demand of 2k11's version of crew. But does that necessarily mean it is specifically for having CPU in it? 2k11 format was 2vs2 or 3vs3 not by choice but because 4vs4 and 5vs5 would lag out. I'm just not seeing that having 5on5 would make the mode less popular. could be wrong
                  I'm just concerned with the accessibility to a full court game. If I'm online with 3 friends I think we should be able to play full court and just have a CPU for our 5th man. I'm all for human vs human competiton in crew but at the end of the day I don't care if the games I'm in are 2v2 with 3 comps on each team or if its 5 v 4 with 1 comp. etc. Hell, we've all played offline local games with friends where it's 2v2 on the same Xbox, ps3, and it's a blast. I view crew as being a lot like those kind of games, but even more fun and complex because everyone is using their own custom player tailored to their play style. Those 2v2 games are a lot of fun, and the way I see it the more the merrier; but we shouldn't be excluded from a real, full court experience if we don't have 5 humans.
                  "I've missed more than 9,000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed." - Michael Jordan

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                  • 313entlogic
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 49

                    #684
                    @Ronnie2K Gonna give us NBA street vol 2 slap on jerseys then call it crew? Wouldn't surprise me to see a sig skill called gamebreaker. #2k

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                    • MarvinOida
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 4868

                      #685
                      NBA 2K14 Features Crew Mode - 3-on-3 or 5-on-5

                      Originally posted by 313entlogic
                      @Ronnie2K Gonna give us NBA street vol 2 slap on jerseys then call it crew? Wouldn't surprise me to see a sig skill called gamebreaker. #2k
                      Hey, NBA Street vol 2 is a great game. Great enough that members of NLSC made a 2013-14 Update.

                      http://www.operationsports.com/forum...p?p=2045457543
                      I know its not 2K but dont insult a good game.

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                      • Ramboooo
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 704

                        #686
                        Re: NBA 2K14 Features Crew Mode - 3-on-3 or 5-on-5

                        Originally posted by MarvinOida
                        Hey, NBA Street vol 2 is a great game. Great enough that members of NLSC made a 2013-14 Update.

                        http://www.operationsports.com/forum...p?p=2045457543
                        I know its not 2K but dont insult a good game.

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                        lol I think his point was street = arcade

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                        • Ramboooo
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 704

                          #687
                          Re: NBA 2K14 Features Crew Mode - 3-on-3 or 5-on-5

                          so with all the complaints in this thread, I guess no1 plans on playing it? sweet, I get the leaderboard all to myself

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                          • MarvinOida
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 4868

                            #688
                            NBA 2K14 Features Crew Mode - 3-on-3 or 5-on-5

                            Originally posted by Ramboooo
                            lol I think his point was street = arcade
                            My point was NBA Street v2 > 2K14 Crew.

                            Street doesn't deserve to be in the same sentence as an equivalent to Crew.


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                            • Matayeus
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 48

                              #689
                              Re: NBA 2K14 Features Crew Mode - 3-on-3 or 5-on-5

                              Originally posted by Ramboooo
                              so with all the complaints in this thread, I guess no1 plans on playing it? sweet, I get the leaderboard all to myself
                              I bet you're so good you'll average ... 6 points a game

                              Hahaha, this is garbage

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                              • 313entlogic
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 49

                                #690
                                Originally posted by MarvinOida
                                My point was NBA Street v2 > 2K14 Crew.

                                Street doesn't deserve to be in the same sentence as an equivalent to Crew.


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                                Who cares? I lack the desire to play either.

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