I'm not saying 2k5 was the greatest game ever, and it certainly had its flaws (like only DE, OT, QB and RB could be drafted by cpu in the first round), but it is remarkable that the play and feel of 2k5 remains better than anything EA put out in the 10 years since. Players really play to their ratings. Defense is actually fun to play (no OL suction blocking). I still enjoyed playing 2k5 more than any football game since.