When is Madden going to start using REAL positions?

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  • Aztec4Life
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    • Jun 2011
    • 58

    #1

    When is Madden going to start using REAL positions?

    I am sure this has been brought up in the past, but when is EA going to use real positions instead of these fake "simplistic" positions?

    WLB
    SLB
    LCB
    RCB
    X
    Y
    Z

    They need to put these in and then have a players abilities and physical attributes fit specific positions and then have their ratings take a decline when put in a position that isn't native to them.

    Like Welker is a Y. He is one hell of a Y. One of the best in the NFL. But if you put him at the Z, he will still be a NFL caliber WR. But he wouldn't perform as well as the Welker we know.

    The same can be said for the Linebacker and Corner positions.

    For those who just play the game, then you probably don't have much of an opinion on this and it makes no difference to you.. But for us who play deep dynasties simming & playing the games or coaching, these different specific positions can bring a different level to player evaluation, building a team, drafting and free agent signings.
  • TheBuddyHobbs
    Banned
    • Apr 2013
    • 2312

    #2
    Re: When is Madden going to start using REAL positions?

    They won't because the casuals have no idea what that stuff means.

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    • NFCastle
      MVP
      • Sep 2011
      • 1096

      #3
      Re: When is Madden going to start using REAL positions?

      Originally posted by TheBuddyHobbs
      They won't because the casuals have no idea what that stuff means.
      This. Everything they change is geared towards making the game more accessible for the random 7 year old that has no knowledge of the game. They want anyone to be able to pick up a controller and play.
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      • secondsolution
        Pro
        • May 2012
        • 541

        #4
        Re: When is Madden going to start using REAL positions?

        Originally posted by TheBuddyHobbs
        They won't because the casuals have no idea what that stuff means.
        Beat me to it. They will start using the actual positions when the casual audience stops bringing in the majority of their revenue. I.e. Never

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        • Aztec4Life
          Rookie
          • Jun 2011
          • 58

          #5
          Re: When is Madden going to start using REAL positions?

          Originally posted by TheBuddyHobbs
          They won't because the casuals have no idea what that stuff means.
          Yah a part of me figured that would play a factor. But like I said, the ones who just play the game and play online, you won't see these positions. 7 year olds play the game, not dyansty. Again, you won't see these positions when you are just playing a game via exhibition mode. And if you are dynasty/franchise person and you don't know what these positions are and mean, then having them on the game would be a great way to learn.

          Maybe have an option when beginning to the dynasty to turn these positions on or something?

          I just think it would make the franchise mode, player evaluation and drafting so much more realistic when you have these positions in them, and have to place certain players at certain positions, or else take a rating hit if you have them at say a SLB rather than their native position of WLB. Or like my Wes Welker positions. The same with corners. The LT/RT (depending on what hand your QB is ) should also play a factor.

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          • TheBuddyHobbs
            Banned
            • Apr 2013
            • 2312

            #6
            Re: When is Madden going to start using REAL positions?

            Originally posted by Aztec4Life
            Yah a part of me figured that would play a factor. But like I said, the ones who just play the game and play online, you won't see these positions. 7 year olds play the game, not dyansty. Again, you won't see these positions when you are just playing a game via exhibition mode. And if you are dynasty/franchise person and you don't know what these positions are and mean, then having them on the game would be a great way to learn.

            Maybe have an option when beginning to the dynasty to turn these positions on or something?

            I just think it would make the franchise mode, player evaluation and drafting so much more realistic when you have these positions in them, and have to place certain players at certain positions, or else take a rating hit if you have them at say a SLB rather than their native position of WLB. Or like my Wes Welker positions. The same with corners. The LT/RT (depending on what hand your QB is ) should also play a factor.
            Believe me I totally agree with you and it's a good idea. Unfortunately, I don't think it will ever happen. If it's something the casuals don't care about or understand then we will probably never see it.

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            • Aztec4Life
              Rookie
              • Jun 2011
              • 58

              #7
              Re: When is Madden going to start using REAL positions?

              Originally posted by TheBuddyHobbs
              Believe me I totally agree with you and it's a good idea. Unfortunately, I don't think it will ever happen. If it's something the casuals don't care about or understand then we will probably never see it.
              ya

              If anybody has ever played Football Manager by SI, you'd know how amazing this can be. I became a soccer fan simply off that game. Most in depth sports game I've ever seen. Must for every franchise enthusiast even if you don't like soccer.

              These position additions are simple adjustments by programmers that can propel franchise mode to the moon.

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              • boogeyman12
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                • Mar 2008
                • 283

                #8
                Re: When is Madden going to start using REAL positions?

                It's a video game to appeal to the masses

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                • loudernx
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                  • Oct 2013
                  • 4

                  #9
                  Re: When is Madden going to start using REAL positions?

                  They want anyone to be able to pick up a controller and play.

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                  • NDAlum
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                    • Jun 2010
                    • 11453

                    #10
                    Re: When is Madden going to start using REAL positions?

                    I want this so bad. It would help people expand their football knowledge too. It could help these terms become mainstream


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                    • jyoung
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 11132

                      #11
                      Re: When is Madden going to start using REAL positions?

                      Originally posted by TheBuddyHobbs
                      They won't because the casuals have no idea what that stuff means.
                      FIFA and EA NHL both use real position names.

                      There's no good reason why Madden cannot.

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                      • gator3guy
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 2233

                        #12
                        Re: When is Madden going to start using REAL positions?

                        Originally posted by NFCastle
                        This. Everything they change is geared towards making the game more accessible for the random 7 year old that has no knowledge of the game. They want anyone to be able to pick up a controller and play.
                        Which is unfortunate because when I was a youngster, video games taught me a lot about rules, alignments, etc. I think accessibility is a part of it, but it would also be another thing on EA's plate.

                        As far as defense goes, Madden used to be able to get away with it because the NFL was predominantly a 4-3 league. Today, it's pretty much a 50/50 split. Player's are also so versatile that it's time to start considering adding secondary positions/techniques. For instance we know Demarcus Ware can be a 3-4 OLB, but now he's playing as a 4-3 WDE (7-tech). Fletcher Cox is a natural 4-3 DT (3-tech), but this year he is playing as a 3-4 DE (5-tech).

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                        • ruttentud
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                          • Jan 2013
                          • 268

                          #13
                          Re: When is Madden going to start using REAL positions?

                          I'd love to be able to draft players for the Leo position!
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                          • majesty95
                            Pro
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 770

                            #14
                            Re: When is Madden going to start using REAL positions?

                            Originally posted by jyoung
                            FIFA and EA NHL both use real position names.

                            There's no good reason why Madden cannot.
                            I think there's a difference between left midfielder or right wing and strong side linebacker or Z receiver.

                            Really the receivers are moot bc receiver 1 and 2 function as the z and y and the 3 functions as an X.

                            With the linebackers and even ends they should be able to program them to lineup to the side of the TE (or away) but maybe when the motion comes into play it throws it off?

                            I'm not sure that would be enough to deter a novice fan (at least not as much as vision cone) so I suspect the programming of it comes into play. It looks easy from our end but who knows. At least you can use formation subs to get field and boundary players,..
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                            • strawberryshortcake
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 2438

                              #15
                              Re: When is Madden going to start using REAL positions?

                              Originally posted by boogeyman12
                              It's a video game to appeal to the masses
                              Force the masses to adapt. Implement it and the masses will learn.

                              Originally posted by TheBuddyHobbs
                              They won't because the casuals have no idea what that stuff means.
                              The masses also have no clue what each defensive or offensive play means either.
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