Slimm44's 2k14 Editing Guide

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  • erancenter
    Rookie
    • Feb 2012
    • 88

    #16
    Re: Slimm44's 2k14 Editing Guide

    I'm working on a list of objective ratings and tendencies for all the player right now (according to slimms scales).

    Will be published soon.

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    • Skyler Cohen
      Rookie
      • Oct 2008
      • 271

      #17
      Re: Slimm44's 2k14 Editing Guide

      Originally posted by erancenter
      I'm working on a list of objective ratings and tendencies for all the player right now (according to slimms scales).

      Will be published soon.
      Are you going to put it in a spreadsheet, if you are, thats awesome

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      • slimm44
        MVP
        • Sep 2005
        • 3253

        #18
        Re: Slimm44's 2k14 Editing Guide

        Originally posted by Colts18
        Do you think we should use FG% in the paint instead of PIP per game?
        You could. Either one could work, theoretically.

        Originally posted by Colts18
        Heads up,

        They haven't really done this since the Class of 2011. I don't know why they stopped. I will Tweet them to start back up
        I'm adding nbadraft.net to the guide now. They still do player comparisons, I think for every player.

        Originally posted by turty11
        For your rookie ratings section, on some websites ( i think i was on CBS last year) you can actually find season long shot charts for guys so you can get their FGM/FGA for each zone
        Thanks for the head's up.

        Originally posted by keshunleon
        Slimm44,

        there are a few players (Gay & Morris) that were traded that have two different % for shooting.

        How do you rate their %?

        For Gay mid he has 35% (Grizz), 27% (Raps) I added and divided by 2 and it came up with 31% which mid jumper is 51.

        Is the correct for you because I have a few players that mid is in the high 30's and low 50's?
        That is correct. Gay was a horrendous mid-range shooter last year. I don't make my rosters off of last year's stats, I make mine off of 3-year averages. Either is OK. If you look at Rudy's 3-year average, you get something close to:

        39%
        34%
        31%

        and an overall average of 34.6 (or 35%) and a rating of 66. I would also give him a 75 or 80 in shoot off the dribble and shoot in traffic because he can create his own shot pretty well and can also shoot pretty well against good D. The Shoot in Traffic and Shoot off Dribble ratings really add more realism to the gameplay when edited appropriately.
        Last edited by slimm44; 10-23-2013, 01:17 PM.
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        • turty11
          All Star
          • Apr 2013
          • 8923

          #19
          Re: Slimm44's 2k14 Editing Guide

          for nbadraft.net they only do comparisons/profiles for a few players now, most are blank
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          • slimm44
            MVP
            • Sep 2005
            • 3253

            #20
            Re: Slimm44's 2k14 Editing Guide

            Originally posted by turty11
            for nbadraft.net they only do comparisons/profiles for a few players now, most are blank
            That's strange. When I was editing the Mavs, I learned that they drafted Barry Larkin's (old Reds SS) son Shane Larkin, whom I had never heard of. They compared him to DJ Augustin. I thought if they were gonna compare a player who a lot of people think won't stay in the league with a current player they would do most people. I think Steven Adams from OKC (compared to Byron Mullens) was listed, also, along with Solomon Hill (compared to Bobby Simmons).

            Anywho, the first post has a new link as I have edited the guide a little.
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            John 3:20. Say no to normal.

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            • erancenter
              Rookie
              • Feb 2012
              • 88

              #21
              Re: Slimm44's 2k14 Editing Guide

              Originally posted by Skyler Cohen
              Are you going to put it in a spreadsheet, if you are, thats awesome
              Yap i will... I need help with a list of all nba players and their current team (Because i'm using 12-13 stats).

              Can somebody send me a url?

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              • thecoleowens
                Rookie
                • Sep 2013
                • 31

                #22
                Re: Slimm44's 2k14 Editing Guide

                I know i may sound stupid but can someone explain the speed and quickness scale to me. I am confused on which side we are suppose to plug in as the actual rating?

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                • slimm44
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 3253

                  #23
                  Re: Slimm44's 2k14 Editing Guide

                  Originally posted by erancenter
                  Yap i will... I need help with a list of all nba players and their current team (Because i'm using 12-13 stats).

                  Can somebody send me a url?
                  This is a solid resource - http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/depth-charts/nba.aspx

                  Originally posted by thecoleowens
                  I know i may sound stupid but can someone explain the speed and quickness scale to me. I am confused on which side we are suppose to plug in as the actual rating?
                  Sorry about that, it is kind of confusing. The numbers in the left column represents 2k's speed/quickness ratings. The way I used to do it was I would take that range and insert the number in the right column in it's place. For example, if a player had a speed and/or quickness rating of 85-90 would get a new rating of 80. Now, I've done it so much that I don't look at the guide and my methods have changed. This is what I've been doing:

                  PG's on a scale from 85-99
                  SG on a scale from 75-99
                  SF on a scale from 65-99
                  PF on a scale from 45-75
                  C on a scale from 45-75

                  Hope this helps. Since I've edited thousands (upon thousands) of players, I don't really think about it anymore, I just do it.
                  Acts 2:38. Let the truth be told.
                  John 4:23. He is seeking a seeker.
                  John 3:20. Say no to normal.

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                  • thecoleowens
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 31

                    #24
                    Re: Slimm44's 2k14 Editing Guide

                    Yes thank you and just making sure im right. If they have 85 speed and 90 quickness you change both to 80 am i correct?

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                    • slimm44
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 3253

                      #25
                      Re: Slimm44's 2k14 Editing Guide

                      Originally posted by thecoleowens
                      Yes thank you and just making sure im right. If they have 85 speed and 90 quickness you change both to 80 am i correct?
                      Yes, that is the way the guide explains it but is slightly different than how I do it now. The basic concept is to have each position's speed/quickness represented on the same scale so within each position there are differences but nothing too crazy as well has having some major differences between the fastest of wing players and the slowest of frontcourt players. Feel free to play around with it.
                      Acts 2:38. Let the truth be told.
                      John 4:23. He is seeking a seeker.
                      John 3:20. Say no to normal.

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                      • JCEVO
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 183

                        #26
                        Re: Slimm44's 2k14 Editing Guide

                        im not understanding your 3pt rating scale. im editing derrick rose and based on your scale if im reading it correctly, he should be 93 in 3pt. help me

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                        • SpacemanSpiff
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 1279

                          #27
                          Re: Slimm44's 2k14 Editing Guide

                          Which "four ratings" are you referring to above the Off Hand Dribbling section?
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                          • qpc123
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 3773

                            #28
                            Re: Slimm44's 2k14 Editing Guide

                            Originally posted by JCEVO
                            im not understanding your 3pt rating scale. im editing derrick rose and based on your scale if im reading it correctly, he should be 93 in 3pt. help me
                            What stats are you using?

                            In 2011-12, the last time Rose played, he shot 31.2% form 3pt range. Using the scale that would place his rating around 69-71.

                            Slimm uses 3 yr averages for the most part, for Rose those % are ruffly 27%, 33%, 31% for an average of about 30% or a 68 rating.
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                            • qpc123
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 3773

                              #29
                              Re: Slimm44's 2k14 Editing Guide

                              Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff
                              Which "four ratings" are you referring to above the Off Hand Dribbling section?
                              It refers to the ratings listed above that paragraph. This is mix of slimm's old guide with some updates for 2k14.

                              Basically all the ratings above that (with the possible exception of layup) are subjective so it is up to you decide how to grade the players and scale those to get the experience you wish to have with your roster.
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                              • qpc123
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 3773

                                #30
                                Re: Slimm44's 2k14 Editing Guide

                                Originally posted by thecoleowens
                                Yes thank you and just making sure im right. If they have 85 speed and 90 quickness you change both to 80 am i correct?
                                For players that have an explosive/quick first step I usually give them a higher 'quickness' rating than what their speed is.

                                For example, I if you gave Lebron 90 speed(just an example not a recommendation) I would suggest 99 quickness for him since he can basically blow by all but the very top tier defenders in the league.

                                Quickness is tricky as it effects other ratings and gameplay.

                                Generally here is how handle different player types.

                                Elite Offensive and Defensive Player - (think Lebron, Jordan) 99 quickness+High on ball D, they beat nearly everyone with a quick first step and defend multiple positions.

                                Elite Offensive Player/Weak Defender - (Monta Ellis) 95-99 quickness/lower on ball D

                                Weak Offense/Elite Defense - (Bruce Bowen types) low quickness/high on ball D

                                Average players fall somewhere in the middle. Bigs work the same way but the CAP is at 75 instead of 99.
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