Is this cheating?

[dso122783]

Would changing a Pocket Passer QB to a Balanced QB but staying with the same OVR be considered cheap? I run an Auburn style offense, lots of read options, and my best QB is a Pocket Passer this year. I feel much better with a Balanced guy. My job security as an OC is "LOW" so I don't have time to screw around. Spring Practice can do wonders, ya know.

[fballturkey]

Re: Is this cheating?

Are you in single player? If so it's really up to you. It is a little cheap but there are a thousand ways you could rationalize it to yourself. Maybe he had a good spring. Maybe he was misrated by the scouts.

[dso122783]

Re: Is this cheating?

Are you in single player? If so it's really up to you. It is a little cheap but there are a thousand ways you could rationalize it to yourself. Maybe he had a good spring. Maybe he was misrated by the scouts.

Yea its offline. My thing is this. Hes a 96 OVR and he was a backup last year, last years started graduated. Now, I wouldn't make him anything over a 96. Im just saying, maybe in the spring he coulda been trained and practiced in the offense and became more balanced. I know throughout the season players can change depending on how you use them, but like I said, I don't have time for that. BUT I don't want to be cheap either.

[AbsoluteFury]

Re: Is this cheating?

I don't care how good your spring practice was. Players at age 20+ don't all of a sudden drop .30-.40 off their 40 time. It just doesn't happen. The normal progression in the offseason training; from say, 64 speed to 66 speed is more realistic. No way would a guy go from 64 speed to 78 speed or something.


You're going to have to mix in more Wildcat or something if you don't have an athletic QB; or start someone less experienced.

[canesfins]

Re: Is this cheating?

I don't care how good your spring practice was. Players at age 20+ don't all of a sudden drop .30-.40 off their 40 time. It just doesn't happen. The normal progression in the offseason training; from say, 64 speed to 66 speed is more realistic. No way would a guy go from 64 speed to 78 speed or something.


You're going to have to mix in more Wildcat or something if you don't have an athletic QB; or start someone less experienced.

I think you are missing the point or I am. He said he wouldn't touch the players ratings just edit where it says what type of QB he is. I dont see it a problem, sometimes a new coach comes in and a player has to change his play style. Bridgewater coming out of high school was a top dual threat QB and now hes a pocket passer.

[NewNapkin]

Re: Is this cheating?

I think you are missing the point or I am. He said he wouldn't touch the players ratings just edit where it says what type of QB he is. I dont see it a problem, sometimes a new coach comes in and a player has to change his play style. Bridgewater coming out of high school was a top dual threat QB and now hes a pocket passer.

I'm pretty sure the OP is changing the players attributes to where he's still a 96, but he is faster, with a lesser arm to compensate.

[dso122783]

Re: Is this cheating?

I would do this: Drop Throw Accuracy and Power and raise speed and acceleration. Just enough to make him "Balanced" and not "Pocket Passer" He is currently a 96 OVR Pocket Passer. He would be no higher than a 96 OVR Balanced. I may even make him 90-92 Balanced to offset the fact that if a guy did switch from PP to Balanced his overall probably would drop. Is that right?

[AbsoluteFury]

Re: Is this cheating?

I would do this: Drop Throw Accuracy and Power and raise speed and acceleration. Just enough to make him "Balanced" and not "Pocket Passer" He is currently a 96 OVR Pocket Passer. He would be no higher than a 96 OVR Balanced. I may even make him 90-92 Balanced to offset the fact that if a guy did switch from PP to Balanced his overall probably would drop. Is that right?

To answer you're original question; yes this is cheating. You are trying to justify changing a player into a different type of player just by keeping his OVR similar. Your inner conscious knows this is cheating; which is why you are trying to think of ways to justify it.

[dso122783]

Re: Is this cheating?

To answer you're original question; yes this is cheating. You are trying to justify changing a player into a different type of player just by keeping his OVR similar. Your inner conscious knows this is cheating; which is why you are trying to think of ways to justify it.

Thanks for your input. I am about to start my season with the pocket passer. Here goes nothing.

[AbsoluteFury]

Re: Is this cheating?

Thanks for your input. I am about to start my season with the pocket passer. Here goes nothing.

Good luck! Just like in real life you will have to adapt your offensive play to match your personnel.


Don't forget about the Wildcat!

[XXstormmXX]

Re: Is this cheating?

I do this kind of stuff all time time, like when I made AJ Schurr from Army a pocket passer. It's not cheating if its offline.

[superjames1992]

Re: Is this cheating?

I would do this: Drop Throw Accuracy and Power and raise speed and acceleration. Just enough to make him "Balanced" and not "Pocket Passer" He is currently a 96 OVR Pocket Passer. He would be no higher than a 96 OVR Balanced. I may even make him 90-92 Balanced to offset the fact that if a guy did switch from PP to Balanced his overall probably would drop. Is that right?

It it cheating? Perhaps, but it's your offline dynasty, so do whatever makes you happiest. I personally wouldn't do it, but you should do what you want because, in the end, your offline dynasty is for you.

[ftball11]

Re: Is this cheating?

Me personally, I don't change player ratings. I like playing with different style of players because it changes my style of play. It can be frustrating going from a mobile QB to a pocket passer, but it adds a different element to the game for me. Having to hang in the pocket and take a few sacks because your QB lacks wheels can change the outcome of a game...and I like that.

[Ice_Cold345]

Re: Is this cheating?

Great coaches in the NFL/NCAA know how to maximize their guys. I'll use Purdue as an example. Rob Henry is much more agile than Danny Etling, so when Henry was running the offense, they use much more options and QB rollouts. Whereas with Danny they would run more traditional offensives.

But do what you want. I think it's cheating, because you are modifying a guy, which you can't do in real life and would have to adjust the offense to make better use of his better passing stats.

[PocketScout]

Re: Is this cheating?

Check out http://www.operationsports.com/forum...aa-2013-a.html

If you are dropping your QB's THA and THP then raising SPD and ACC to the level that the players OVR is not changing it is cheating. You could drop you THA by 10 points and the OVR would now be 90, then drop THP by 2 your OVR would be at around 89. At this point you would have to raise SPD 40 points to get the OVR back to 95 then raise ACC 35 points to get back to 96 OVR. Sorry but 12 points of arm in this game is not near equivalent to 75 points of legs to keep the same OVR.

Its your dynasty and you can do what you want but when you really look at it you cant really justify it.