Madden NFL 15 Video - Gameplay Footage & More on the Play Call System

[jpdavis82]

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"Drastically" is VERY subjective.

I'm glad you consider it to be so but I certainly don't but you are missing my overall point.


I think Ian was a fantastic producer/developer but he was so handcuffed that he couldn't do what he wanted which is why he left. To each their own I guess.

That's what I meant by lack of direction, Ian didn't have a Cam or Rex supporting his vision, without vision people perish.

[kehlis]

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That's what I meant by lack of direction, Ian didn't have a Cam or Rex supporting his vision, without vision people perish.

So in one post you are saying it was never an EA problem and now you are agreeing that it was?

By saying it's a lack of direction you are saying it's an EA problem......

[oneamongthefence]

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It obviously goes back to the last gen transition. madden 06 was terrible all the way through Madden 09. Madden 10 is where things finally started looking up and it made tangible strides and year to year it has improved. Madden 25 has lasted the longest for me since 05. My only only issue with that is that it took 9 years to finally get to that point. I know it has flaws but finding the right community/sliders/mindset does wonders for this game.

Many of us have also the developmental ups and downs from year to year and developer to developer. And we know what their vision is and I think many of us know that their genuine interest their vision. This is an ea sports game but they also have their boss which is EA. I've always had the mindset to not really blame the developers but look further up the ladder to find where maybe the lack of support for different features or even the direction the game itself goes. Its no coincidence that we've heard about disgruntled employees who due to creative differences.

[Segagendude]

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Maybe so but I highly doubt that will happen with this team, the improvement speaks for itself and Madden was one of the best sports games made before a lot of you can remember. Going back to 92, the good years FAR outweigh the bad so this isn't a EA issue, it's a dev team and lack of direction from 06-12 issue.

You have a resume and a job application sitting in EA's headquarters don't you..

[dougdeuce]

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The need a package of about 10 kicker specific celebrations.

1) extra point - minimal celebration
2) mid game FG - minimal celebration
3) late game FG to tie or take lead - mild celebration
4) winning FG regular season - heavy celebration

For the rest increase them as the playoffs and Super Bowl come around.

Agreed. It takes me out of the game so quickly when i have a 12 play dive stall out at the 6 resulting in settling for a fg and the holder jumps up and down like we've won the game.
IRL players don't celebrate like that.

As long as I'm on the topic, celebrations in general need to be much more situational.
I really hate when the DB breaks on a pass and drops a sure pick-6 and starts celebrating the breakup of the pass. He should have his head in his hands in frustration.

There should also be individual restrictions to what celebrations each player can perform. Yes, there are a small handful of players that MIGHT find themselves using LeBron's celebration, but the other 99% wouldn't. That makes these celebrations just look ridiculous.

[Aggies7]

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As long as I'm on the topic, celebrations in general need to be much more situational.

I really hate when the DB breaks on a pass and drops a sure pick-6 and starts celebrating the breakup of the pass. He should have his head in his hands in frustration.

I agree 100%. They should be showing frustration not excitement. Now if the break up a pass, I am fine with excitement but when it should have been an INT, they shouldn't be celebrating.

They need to figure out how to add celebrations based on game importance (rivalry, regular season, playoff, Super Bowl)

[dghustla]

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I agree 100%. They should be showing frustration not excitement. Now if the break up a pass, I am fine with excitement but when it should have been an INT, they shouldn't be celebrating.

They need to figure out how to add celebrations based on game importance (rivalry, regular season, playoff, Super Bowl)

player sense 3.0 "3x more calculations of what to celebrate."

All jokes aside I always feel like celebrations should be one of the easiest things to implement and constantly add on to over the years. players are always finding new celebrations where it dancers or unique things they do. These things should be added every cycle.

[dougdeuce]

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player sense 3.0 "3x more calculations of what to celebrate."

All jokes aside I always feel like celebrations should be one of the easiest things to implement and constantly add on to over the years. players are always finding new celebrations where it dancers or unique things they do. These things should be added every cycle.

agreed, but they should be player specific. Who in the NFL has ever done the "air guitar solo smash"? That to me is arcade, and when a guy like Calvin Johnson does it it ruins the immersion.

[dghustla]

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agreed, but they should be player specific. Who in the NFL has ever done the "air guitar solo smash"? That to me is arcade, and when a guy like Calvin Johnson does it it ruins the immersion.

I'm all for a player trait if they want to determine how out there a player will go when he celebrates say 1-3 (3 being "craziest"). In regard to what celebrations are in the game I dont care what they add as long as the animations look good doing it. Not some stiff Lebron rip off. (The one in game doesn't look bad just weird seeing it done by heath miller)

[GiantBlue76]

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I'm all for a player trait if they want to determine how out there a player will go when he celebrates say 1-3 (3 being "craziest"). In regard to what celebrations are in the game I dont care what they add as long as the animations look good doing it. Not some stiff Lebron rip off. (The one in game doesn't look bad just weird seeing it done by heath miller)

All of this plays into contextual awareness. Not just for celebrations, but for everything. This is what gives players their personality and makes you believe they are alive. IN fairness, APF had this same issue with celebrations. It was ridiculously stupid to see Barry Sanders do the throat slash after a TD. Anyone who is an NFL fan knew that Barry never celebrated. He would hand the ball to the official.

[dghustla]

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All of this plays into contextual awareness. Not just for celebrations, but for everything. This is what gives players their personality and makes you believe they are alive. IN fairness, APF had this same issue with celebrations. It was ridiculously stupid to see Barry Sanders do the throat slash after a TD. Anyone who is an NFL fan knew that Barry never celebrated. He would hand the ball to the official.

Exactly no game has every really "nailed' celebrations. I'm just prefer volume and then tweeks along the way of who does what.

[SA1NT401]

Madden NFL 15 Video - Gameplay Footage & More on the Play Call System

I will just say this...

M15 wi be just like M25.., will still have the same issues we have had for a decade. We will also have new issues.

There will be no practice squad, there will be no formation subs( because online exploit possibilities) we will have no penalties( surprise)... There will not be realistic injuries... Fatigue and auto subs won't work. We won't be able to edit rookies... There will be goofy uniform glitches... There will be no sense of any type of 2RB system. Trade logic and team management will be brain dead...there won't be assistant coaches...

Though it looks different... The playbooks will still be the same On both sides of the ball...ST PLay and overall AI will still be WELL below what it should be.

There will be ZERO crowd emotion/reaction... There won't be any challenge from the CPU AI based on actual football IQ...there won't be any real DIFFERANCE in QB play regardless of what they say... This would hurt online casuals/tourney players.... So that's just BS marketing.

There won't be any type of player moral or chemistry... Schemes won't work correctly... And you can bank on some type of bug that hinders offline/online franchises in some way...


These are the only things that we can guarantee about madden regardless of what year it is.


Awesome ain't it... And everyone knows I'm 100% correct.


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[wordtobigbird]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Video - Gameplay Footage & More on the Play Call System

I will just say this...

M15 wi be just like M25.., will still have the same issues we have had for a decade. We will also have new issues.

There will be no practice squad, there will be no formation subs( because online exploit possibilities) we will have no penalties( surprise)... There will not be realistic injuries... Fatigue and auto subs won't work. We won't be able to edit rookies... There will be goofy uniform glitches... There will be no sense of any type of 2RB system. Trade logic and team management will be brain dead...there won't be assistant coaches...

Though it looks different... The playbooks will still be the same On both sides of the ball...ST PLay and overall AI will still be WELL below what it should be.

There will be ZERO crowd emotion/reaction... There won't be any challenge from the CPU AI based on actual football IQ...there won't be any real DIFFERANCE in QB play regardless of what they say... This would hurt online casuals/tourney players.... So that's just BS marketing.

There won't be any type of player moral or chemistry... Schemes won't work correctly... And you can bank on some type of bug that hinders offline/online franchises in some way...


These are the only things that we can guarantee about madden regardless of what year it is.


Awesome ain't it... And everyone knows I'm 100% correct.


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[datruth251]

Players still look robotic

[datruth251]

This sucks because I haven't played Madden since 09 and I need a football fix. When is EA gonna change player models