Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seattle Seahawks vs. San Francisco 49ers (Smitty)

[Falconsfan21]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seattle Seahawks vs. San Francisco 49ers (Smitty)

My problems with the maddens series as of late as been 1) the commentary. it got to the point where i knew what line was coming next. its boring and repetitive 2) the physics. While to try run the ball. the rb runs into his own lineman and falls like a puppet on strings. 3) the celebrations in the endzone. im a avid NFL watcher and most of these players dont do those celebrations. steven jackson doing air guitar?

Graphically the game has gotten better but thats about it.

[Jerros]

To me it's just sad that Madden went through all the trouble to monopolize the license and all we get year in and year out is the same game. Now this new team decided to go back and research some old features from past titles to cherry pick. So in their minds most of us have forgotten these features so we won't recognize them or call them out. With that mindset they advertise all these things as NEW innovations. This is how they view the consumers? Mindless sheep? Sad, really sad. But lets go down the list of a few examples.

BACKBREAKER:
So they decided to implement BackBreaker's Defensive cam and a modified version of their lock on player feature. Interesting choice. Sadly, I think BB actually did this better and keep in mind, its older.

Madden 05:
This is more of a trendy gimmick which Madden has done in the past. In 05 the Ravens were SB champs and what was Madden's theme? DEFENSE. So of course the Seahawks are th new trend. The year when Tom Brady and the Pats broke a ton of offensive records Madden went Offense crazy. Just to give you an idea of the trends they follow.

Madden 08:
The so called new button prompt to do defensive line moves? Oh yeah, Madden had that for all positions back in 08. Now it's just modified for line play but yeah, you get the picture.

NCAA 08:
Keeping with the same year, NCAA 08 had this feature where you could jump the snap. A message would show up on the screen if you got it right saying great jump. Sound familiar? That's right boys and girls, a NEW innovative jump the snap feature for Madden 15. It never ends, but lets continue.

NCAA 14:
All 22 camera. Need I say more? Nah, you get the picture.

There are a few other things such as true step and the power circle from 2k, the vision cone which was originally designed for the qb when offense was the trend. But yeah, this is what we're getting folks. Old features packed onto the same engine with the same stiff animations and sloppy tackle physics. All this packaged under a new coat of paint which to me honestly isn't that impressive. This is 2014, how about adding some slight cloth physics to the jerseys instead of standard normal mapped wrinkles. Not impressed. just food for thought.

The definition of Innovation:
1. something new or different introduced.
2. the act of innovating; introduction of new things or methods.

Doesn't quite fit does it?

[Flamehead]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seattle Seahawks vs. San Francisco 49ers (Smitty)

They seriously need to fix this! I don't want to see refs gliding & speed bursting to keep up with the play. True Step for referees?

Hey, I'm just glad they have refs in the game. Last gen, they didn't have them in there until, what, '09?

When my expectations have fallen so low, I suspect I'm just not the consumer EA is shooting for.

[jpdavis82]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seattle Seahawks vs. San Francisco 49ers (Smitty)

My problems with the maddens series as of late as been 1) the commentary. it got to the point where i knew what line was coming next. its boring and repetitive 2) the physics. While to try run the ball. the rb runs into his own lineman and falls like a puppet on strings. 3) the celebrations in the endzone. im a avid NFL watcher and most of these players dont do those celebrations. steven jackson doing air guitar?

Graphically the game has gotten better but thats about it.

All 3 of those especially the 3rd have been improved this year, they removed all the old celebration cutscenes and now celebrations are all done in real time. The crowd and sidelines have improved too. I know some people have said on here that the sidelines weren't touched but that is not true, the players now respond and watch the plays on the field, come off the bench to congratulate teammates, get upset and frustrated on negative plays. The crowd responds properly to big plays and stands up and cheers during them as well, crowd models have more indistinguishable character models now as well, not as many duplicates. Rex has said they aren't there yet with the Living Worlds feature but improvement has been made since last year in that area. I don't know if this is considered living worlds but players also will look up at the jumbotron on big breakaway TDs.

[Malcd9583]

I mean watching the videos it reminds me of maddens of old with the animations but the graphics on next gen look much better then the first madden on next gen. I buy every madden been playing since I was a kid now I'm grown. The thing that bothers most is the WR/DB animation for bump and run has been the same since ps2 that's why the same plays will always work until it's fixed. The read option is still gonna impose it's will on most defenses based on the video. I'm a online guy I never was into playing the cpu if it's no competition it's not fun to me. I'm a madden fan there improving but it doesn't hold me like it use to. I'm gonna buy it because I'm addicted to sports. I give madden credit cuz they trying like 2k was great but...... They took core modes away for online and that killed it for me plus the servers.

[kjcheezhead]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seattle Seahawks vs. San Francisco 49ers (Smitty)

The pre/post play cameras are nice and I like the crowd noise but that's it. When the ball is snapped it becomes a stale game of madden. The movement/animation, commentary looks the same. I don't see much difference.

That Russell Wilson roll to the right and throw across his body to the middle of the field, still being more or less on target, while the wr continues downfield and allows the db to undercut it and have it hit him square in the chest but drop it anyways is the epitome of madden.

It's a tired stale game with so many bandaids it's hard to find any fundamentally sound football.

[Malcd9583]

The pre/post play cameras are nice and I like the crowd noise but that's it. When the ball is snapped it becomes a stale game of madden. The movement/animation, commentary looks the same. I don't see much difference.

That Russell Wilson roll to the right and throw across his body to the middle of the field, still being more or less on target, while the wr continues downfield and allows the db to undercut it and have it hit him square in the chest but drop it anyways is the epitome of madden.

It's a tired stale game with so many bandaids it's hard to find any fundamentally sound football.

Madden will never be fundamentally sound it's a video game. They have to keep the fun factor to sell units if they ever made it to hard people wouldn't buy it. At the end of the day if madden made the best video game ever people would still come on here and complain about it. That's with every video game it's sad but that's just the world we live in.

[SageInfinite]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seattle Seahawks vs. San Francisco 49ers (Smitty)

Madden will never be fundamentally sound it's a video game. They have to keep the fun factor to sell units if they ever made it to hard people wouldn't buy it. At the end of the day if madden made the best video game ever people would still come on here and complain about it. That's with every video game it's sad but that's just the world we live in.

IMO it's not about dumbing the game down to fun it up. Realism is fun. Realistic looking games attract people. It's about accessibility. Giving people the proper tools to learn the game and tailor it to their gaming style. What's the point of having difficulty settings and sliders if you're going to leave things out because you think they'll be too hard for people. I don't get that approach the Tiburon has, or maybe it's the approach people think Tiburon has.

[Ryan97]

EA is continuing to stay a step behind everyone else in terms of solid sports gaming. I'm pretty discourage on the NHL front after watching this.

[SamuraiX]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seattle Seahawks vs. San Francisco 49ers (Smitty)

Madden will never be fundamentally sound it's a video game. They have to keep the fun factor to sell units if they ever made it to hard people wouldn't buy it. At the end of the day if madden made the best video game ever people would still come on here and complain about it. That's with every video game it's sad but that's just the world we live in.

So then why don't you see that happen to The Show?

[Malcd9583]

IMO it's not about dumbing the game down to fun it up. Realism is fun. Realistic looking games attract people. It's about accessibility. Giving people the proper tools to learn the game and tailor it to their gaming style. What's the point of having difficulty settings and sliders if you're going to leave things about because you think they'll be hard for people. I don't get that approach the Tiburon has, or maybe it's the approach people think Tiburon has.

Trust me I wish madden played like what I see on Sundays. It would be the best thing that happened to sports gaming. If you played the next gen madden 25 you felt the difference in gameplay from last gen but it was still flawed in so many ways. True step for everyone on the field would of made madden a brad new experience as well as DB/WR interactions. You got a corner on the cover but yet he he won't be equipped with what makes him great in real life in this game. With that being said no game is gonna give you everything in one year it's sorta like when you see a new car model every year they only add one or two new things to the body style. It's like picking up the new galaxy phone or iPhone every year when they increase the speed and upgrade the camera, like I said before it's how they keep ppl coming back it's the way of the world.

[Malcd9583]

So then why don't you see that happen to The Show?

The show is a great one player game human against the cpu but like I said earlier I'm a online guy and they servers aren't so great so I'm kinda disappointed with that aspect of their game. One thing I can say EA has over everyone is their servers I've played plenty of games online of madden 25 on ps4 with no lag but on the show the games online just cuts off sometimes.

[maddog45]

all the players have big *** heads, look at the punters head for seattle lmao everyones head is huge

[tyberious4now]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seattle Seahawks vs. San Francisco 49ers (Smitty)

Sadly I read through 11pages and this discussion is the exact same discussion at this time last year about the same stuff!!!

Maybe next year LoL!!!

[GiantBlue76]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seattle Seahawks vs. San Francisco 49ers (Smitty)

Wow factor... What is the wow factor in a sports game? To me, the WOW factor comes into play when I see something that resembles real life so closely that you can't believe that they included it in the game. I'll give a couple of examples of things that wowed me in the past. Years ago, I was playing a football game online against a friend. I called a screen play and I was trying to wait to throw it. I scrambled and managed to get the screen off. My HB caught the pass and I followed my brigade of lineman to the end zone for a 60 yard TD. Or so I thought... While I was running, I saw flags hit the field (yes, flags actually hit the field). Ineligible receiver downfield! Both of us had to pause and talk about how cool that was for at least 10 minutes.

Instance number 2. Playing the same friend online, I drop back to pass and complete a 20 yard seam pass to my TE. First down - but again, flags everywhere. I had kept my halfback in to block, but what I noticed was that while my left tackle was engaged with the RDE, my HB went and took out the legs of the DE. Chop Block! My reaction? "Are you kidding me?!!! That's in the game??? That's awesome!!".

Instance 3: Playing a friend online. Pass is thrown deep down the left sideline. My corner is trailing in good position but while the ball is in the air, he pulls up grabs his hamstring, stumbles, limps and goes to the ground. TD! My corner pulled his hamstring on the play!

Now - do any of these things sound like ground breaking occurrences when it comes to the game of football? Are any of these things something that were invented by the World of Warcraft development team? They create the WOW factor because they are elements that I see happen in REAL LIFE. When I see my corner drop back into a zone, never even touch the receiver as he goes through my zone, then stand flat footed covering an empty patch of grass, the game has already lost me and my interest. When my middle linebacker drops back into the back of the end zone when the ball is inside the 10 and he lets the TE run WIDE OPEN in front of me without even an attempt at coverage in the zone the game has already lost me. When my linebacker blitzes and instead of running through the gap he's supposed to, he takes a direct path into a blocker, the game has already lost me. All of these things are still happening in Madden in 2014, yet all 3 of the instances of the items I mentioned above are completely absent from the game. Couple that with the fact that Tiburon is telling me that this is the most authentic, smartest and best playing Madden ever, how can anyone take this game seriously?

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