Madden NFL 15 Video & Blog - War In The Trenches 2.0

[atc43]

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I like the ideas but as it always is with Tiburon ill wait to see how implementation goes.

Again, the lineman are too static when theyre going head2head. That steering mechanic should be at play at all times on the line to give it a more dynamic feel.

I had better see my CPU teammates using the new rush and steer moves as well. The steer mechanic also needs to be used for run plays. Give some semblance of hole responsibility on runs please.

QB animations are garbage and there still alot of ugly animations. And for the love of God stop having all the defenders have the same stance preplay. I can understand Linebackers having that hunched over nonathletic look, but the secondary need to look a bit more loose and upright/athletic. Lineman shouldnt all snap into place at the same time at the LOS either. Give the game some life Tiburon..

All in all it looks like a small improvement on the defensive side, assuming everything works as intended.

[strawberryshortcake]

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The reason the 11 vs. 11 online team play mode works so well in FIFA is because FIFA's footplanting and locomotion are much more realistic than what Madden currently has.

Without proper player movement, the 3 vs. 3 mode that Madden has just doesn't work very well. Right now, it's very hard to block a human defender or cover a human wide receiver, since they can just zig-zag freely all over the field without proper turning or momentum physics.

From my understanding, the Ignite engine is a sharing technology. Not exactly sure what that means coding and programming wise, but I'd figure any EA Sports team would be able to extract any worthy elements from different EA sports titles and implement it into their game. If FIFA's locomotion is praised by many, why doesn't team Madden simply "share" that part of FIFA's technology?

Another thing that might be concerning is the following statement "Each franchise will leverage the technology differently to create game experiences unique to their sport."

http://www.easports.com/news/article/ea-sports-ignite-engine

Q: What are some of the benefits that we’ll see in the games powered by EA SPORTS IGNITE?
AW: First and foremost, shared technology will help us make better games. We’ll be more innovative, more efficient, and we’ll raise the quality bar across the titles. Each franchise will leverage the technology differently to create game experiences unique to their sport.

Q: How is EA SPORTS IGNITE different to other game engines?
AW: Our engine is built specifically for sports. For example, the new locomotion system was developed specifically to create player movement that is authentic to real-world athletes. EA SPORTS IGNITE is more than a rendering engine; it also combines run-time physics, animation, locomotion and online systems.

[PantherBeast_OS]

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From what I've heard from the devs, Sim, Smitty, and Markus, they are adding new animations each year until the old ones are almost completely gone. They added new ones last year and added a ton this year for defense and catch animations. Rex talked last year how he wants to get animations to a 90 quality level.

I like where this going and all with the new Defense animations. But they shouldn't just focus on defense. They should focus on offense blocking animations as well. Look some players going to the knees to slow down the defensive guy and stuff like that. Overall I'm liking what I'm seeing. I just don't want to see the AI keep getting to the human controlled QB in about a second. The human controlled offense line gives on the play way to quick and allows the AI to slip by way to easy. Been a problem for a few years now. I really hope that is fixed. And hopefully the CB running the the WR routes before the WR runs it is fixed this year. Tired of seeing the AI CB stay step for step with my WR on every play like glue. Overall I really hope this is the year can finally play a decent Madden for more then 2 weeks.

[jpdavis82]

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Thought you guys might like to see this


@tazdevil20: @ClintOldenburg Something to work on - OL quit when they get beat. Looks kind of silly. They just stand there. Patch maybe? Thx

@ClintOldenburg: @tazdevil20 not anymore they don't. Also something done in M15. No patch needed. You're welcome.

[LovejoyOTF]

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instead now they do the cat daddy.

[thesubmittedone]

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From my understanding, the Ignite engine is a sharing technology. Not exactly sure what that means coding and programming wise, but I'd figure any EA Sports team would be able to extract any worthy elements from different EA sports titles and implement it into their game. If FIFA's locomotion is praised by many, why doesn't team Madden simply "share" that part of FIFA's technology?

Another thing that might be concerning is the following statement "Each franchise will leverage the technology differently to create game experiences unique to their sport."



http://www.easports.com/news/article...-ignite-engine

I've been harping on this now for the last few weeks. I have yet to hear a single mention of the Ignite engine being put to use for Madden 15. They claimed last year that it was going to benefit them greatly, but I don't see a single "asset" used from another game like Fifa that does pretty much everything better than Madden being implemented.

This is what bothers me most about Tiburon, no matter who is in charge there. They've blatantly lied to us time and time again. They've claimed new features were going to change the way we play the game and almost EVERY TIME those new features create more problems than solve.

It's like, damnit, stop implementing new features that barely get used and are almost always broken and just fix the core game. JP is excited because Cam is trying to fix the foundation and then get to the "cute" stuff, lol? What!?!?

It's the complete opposite! Are these ridiculous animations and transitions that need complete overhauling "cute stuff"? Is basic football fundamentals the AI never is programmed for (DB/WR interactions; Oline/Dline schemes and proper techniques like setting the edge DEs/OLBs or not looking like an idiot after getting beat and sticking with your guy for Olinemen; WR awareness really mattering when thrown to early instead of it being almost automatic every time and they adjust magically to where the ball was thrown even while not looking, etc... ) "cute stuff"?

But, yeah... the tackling cone isn't cute. That's fundamental right there. Dlinemen/OLBs beating great Tackles like Trent Williams so bad he falls off of them like he weighs 20 pounds because I timed my button press right in some overpowered mini-game... that's fundamental. Being able to switch the camera so I can look at my players buttocks better on defense is clearly fundamental. Yup.

I guess I can't wait until the "cute stuff" comes.

I know they've done some things to solve the issues like true step and implementing a physics engine... but it's like they can't just do it right. Instead, they focus so much of their resources on these sideshow items that don't really affect the game much and, if they do, it's a negative impact because it's overpowered and people find a way to cheeze the crap out of it. Just focus, damnit. You can't tell me that casual fans want to see these silly things over a completely transformed, life-like football game that plays and looks authentic! How can that not be something marketable?

[K_GUN]

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I've been harping on this now for the last few weeks. I have yet to hear a single mention of the Ignite engine being put to use for Madden 15. They claimed last year that it was going to benefit them greatly, but I don't see a single "asset" used from another game like Fifa that does pretty much everything better than Madden being implemented.

This is what bothers me most about Tiburon, no matter who is in charge there. They've blatantly lied to us time and time again. They've claimed new features were going to change the way we play the game and almost EVERY TIME those new features create more problems than solve.

It's like, damnit, stop implementing new features that barely get used and are almost always broken and just fix the core game. JP is excited because Cam is trying to fix the foundation and then get to the "cute" stuff, lol? What!?!?

It's the complete opposite! Are these ridiculous animations and transitions that need complete overhauling "cute stuff"? Is basic football fundamentals the AI never is programmed for (DB/WR interactions; Oline/Dline schemes and proper techniques like setting the edge DEs/OLBs or not looking like an idiot after getting beat and sticking with your guy for Olinemen; WR awareness really mattering when thrown to early instead of it being almost automatic every time and they adjust magically to where the ball was thrown even while not looking, etc... ) "cute stuff"?

But, yeah... the tackling cone isn't cute. That's fundamental right there. Dlinemen/OLBs beating great Tackles like Trent Williams so bad he falls off of them like he weighs 20 pounds because I timed my button press right in some overpowered mini-game... that's fundamental. Being able to switch the camera so I can look at my players buttocks better on defense is clearly fundamental. Yup.

I guess I can't wait until the "cute stuff" comes.

I know they've done some things to solve the issues like true step and implementing a physics engine... but it's like they can't just do it right. Instead, they focus so much of their resources on these sideshow items that don't really affect the game much and, if they do, it's a negative impact because it's overpowered and people find a way to cheeze the crap out of it. Just focus, damnit. You can't tell me that casual fans want to see these silly things over a completely transformed, life-like football game that plays and looks authentic! How can that not be something marketable?

do something about it.......get off these game boards and actually do something.....gather signatures for a petition & get a lawsuit going

[thesubmittedone]

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do something about it.......get off these game boards and actually do something.....gather signatures for a petition & get a lawsuit going

I wouldn't know what to sue them for? Sucking?

Lol, there's nothing we can do outside of pray, complain and hope they care enough to listen. Our hands are tied with the exclusivity agreement and it's really the NFL that needs to get the message. I mean, this message board should be enough of a "petition" if they really cared. Every single one of us has essentially signed it outside of a few here with our enraged comments, lol.

But, yeah, I think this message board is as effective a way as there is. I have no doubt that if so many here hadn't complained legitimately about the issues in Madden it'd be in an even worse state than it already is.

[Demoncrom]

I like the concept of more control over the defensive line. Love it even. Its about bloody time. but, lets hope these moves are not overpowered and and that stats still play a part in level of success. We should see more hurrys and impacts on the QB but not 20 sacks a game.

[roadman]

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I wouldn't know what to sue them for? Sucking?

Lol, there's nothing we can do outside of pray, complain and hope they care enough to listen. Our hands are tied with the exclusivity agreement and it's really the NFL that needs to get the message. I mean, this message board should be enough of a "petition" if they really cared. Every single one of us has essentially signed it outside of a few here with our enraged comments, lol.

But, yeah, I think this message board is as effective a way as there is. I have no doubt that if so many here hadn't complained legitimately about the issues in Madden it'd be in an even worse state than it already is.

I've already raised the white flag for complaining. I've complained for several years about fixing and overhauling penalties and nothing has been touched in that area.

Animations are poorly done in Madden and we can complain in every thread every day(seems like I see animations on a daily basis) until the cows come home, but, at the end of the day, they make the game they want.

And that mantra has been lately, making improvements slowly, year by year.

I love this twitter from Clint:


Why I answer questions sometimes is mind-boggling. Half the time you don't believe me anyway. Lol

The guy answers questions from people on Twitter and right or wrong, appears a few people don't appreciate the answers given.

[treq21]

It looks great to me. I have no problem with the way the game animates.

Compared to other sports games, madden looks bad. real bad.

[BezO]

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...there's nothing we can do outside of pray, complain and hope they care enough to listen...

There's a more effective option. Unfortunately, most refuse to use it.

[coke hogan]

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I like to speak with my wallet.
the last maddens I bought were 09 and 12.
never again will I be fooled by devs vids and marketing speak.

[dat boi Q]

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I like to speak with my wallet.
the last maddens I bought were 09 and 12.
never again will I be fooled by devs vids and marketing speak.

I know right. It's about 100 guys coming here complaining everyday about this game. They already know what kind of game there are getting from EA.
DONT BUY IT.
So simple but it won't happen. It doesn't matter if it matters to EA. Your hard earned money should matter to you.

[MajorSupreme]

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There's a more effective option. Unfortunately, most refuse to use it.

See, I agree but here's my problem with this logic. How do you get at least a third of consumers, a majority being MUT fanatics, to not buy Madden? I mean, even if you get the majority of OS to speak with their wallets, that's nothing to the millions they'd sell anyway.