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  • schnaidt1
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    • Sep 2008
    • 5194

    #1

    fix for sacks? anyone found 1 yet?

    im very familiar with the game... in fact my sliders for this years game are doing very well in the forums...however....even after the tuning update....the one thing that keeps making me shut off the game midgame is sacks...

    anytime i blitz....i get a sack....anytime the cpu throws a screen pass (like 10 times a game) i sack them....

    and even when i dont blitz....the cpu qb will just hold on to the ball until he eventually gets sacked....

    even when i dont control anyone and put my controller down...i get sacks...


    i cant have fun like this...i thought the tuner was supposed to fix this...but it hasnt...at least for me...

    i have cpu pass block at 99...

    ive tried qb accuracy in the 40's...ive tried it in the 60's....nothing seems to help....

    so please for the Love of God if anyone has a fix for cpu sacks in a slider that i am missing somewhere please tell me....i want to play this game...but its unplayable right now.....
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  • JoshC1977
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    • Dec 2010
    • 11564

    #2
    Re: fix for sacks? anyone found 1 yet?

    Try lowering the Hum PCV slider (you have it at 70 on your set). When receivers are so well covered, the CPU QB just keeps searching and searching and searching and searching for a receiver.
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    • ggsimmonds
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jan 2009
      • 11235

      #3
      Re: fix for sacks? anyone found 1 yet?

      There is no workaround, we can only wait for the patch.

      what the above poster said may work to alleviate the problem, but it would also adversely affect the gameplay in other ways.

      It does not happen all the time. For whatever reason on some plays the AI QB goes brain dead. If you try to counter this by lowering pass coverage, then on the other plays you will get torched. Besides that lowering the slider does not seem to matter much.

      also what you set the AI pass blocking slider to is irrelevant. The consensus seems to be that it only affects user vs cpu linemen, i.e. when you control a pass rusher the slider determines success rate. It does not impact the likelihood of your AI teammates beating their man.

      Possibly the best or closest thing to an acceptable workaround is editing all QB traits to trigger happy. Armor uploaded a roster with these edits but he did this pre-tuner and now thinks it is not worth it. I am inclined to agree.

      All we can do is wait

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      • Kramer5150
        Medicore Mike
        • Dec 2002
        • 7384

        #4
        Re: fix for sacks? anyone found 1 yet?

        Unfortunately we're going to have to wait for a patch to hopefully fix this issue.
        I have not played the game in some time now due to this issue,and I feel that I have tried everything under the sun. I just can't have fun knowing that I will and can have anywhere between 5-7 sacks every game...and this is on All Madden,a level which is "supposed" to "juice" the ratings...I was hoping to see the issue toned down,but sadly it's not the case.

        I really,really like the game and want to play the daylights outta my CFM,but the sack issue is just a killer for me. So while I wait for the patch,I have been spending all my time in Destiny.
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        • schnaidt1
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          • Sep 2008
          • 5194

          #5
          Re: fix for sacks? anyone found 1 yet?

          Originally posted by CowherPower
          Unfortunately we're going to have to wait for a patch to hopefully fix this issue.
          I have not played the game in some time now due to this issue,and I feel that I have tried everything under the sun. I just can't have fun knowing that I will and can have anywhere between 5-7 sacks every game...and this is on All Madden,a level which is "supposed" to "juice" the ratings...I was hoping to see the issue toned down,but sadly it's not the case.

          I really,really like the game and want to play the daylights outta my CFM,but the sack issue is just a killer for me. So while I wait for the patch,I have been spending all my time in Destiny.
          thats what my plan was too...but all i got left is strike missions and crucible left.....which get very old at times
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          • vannwolfhawk
            MVP
            • Jun 2009
            • 3412

            #6
            Re: fix for sacks? anyone found 1 yet?

            I think there is a fix but it's a combined slider and roster editing fix.

            I got CPU pass block at 100. It effects user getting to CPU. The above mentioned man coverage being lowered does help and I'm sure you know the pass reaction slider is reversed so the lower it is the closer they stay to man and break on ball faster so setting that a tad higher helps.

            The big fix to me is putting CPU qbs to have paranoid trait with nothing else. Also giving CPU high ball carrier vision. This doesn't mean guys like Peyton run with ball it means they avoid the rush when pressure is felt.

            Lastly give qb throw away trait set at yes and set CPU qb pass accuracy a little higher. They still throw bad throws at higher setting.

            I think you will see a huge change as I have done that to my rosters with amazing results. If you don't see results I'm seeing then when all else fails go edit offensive line pass blocking and awareness for each player. Is all that annoying to do? Yes but you asked for a fix. :-)
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            • RumbleCard
              MVP
              • Aug 2007
              • 1228

              #7
              Re: fix for sacks? anyone found 1 yet?

              Originally posted by ggsimmonds

              what the above poster said may work to alleviate the problem, but it would also adversely affect the gameplay in other ways.
              I cannot stress this enough. The sliders don't work as advertised. There are a number of unintended consequences when you fiddle with them.

              This game would be leaps and bounds better if the sliders worked accordingly.

              Its something so simple....been in the game for years, but for whatever reason the last 3 years sliders have had issue.

              ...and they refuse to acknowledge anything slider related.
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              • glenzariczny
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                • Apr 2011
                • 2878

                #8
                Re: fix for sacks? anyone found 1 yet?

                I count to three, and then switch to the DL and make them run away from the QB lol. It's pathetic. First game of my CFM against Green Bay I got 11 sacks. It's a brutal game breaker. I'm about to trade it in for FIFA tomorrow. I've waited long enough for a patch. It's not worth it to me anymore, and honestly the patch probably wont totally fix the issue.
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                • metal_james
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                  • Mar 2014
                  • 43

                  #9
                  Re: fix for sacks? anyone found 1 yet?

                  what if you just used default sliders and play all madden?

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                  • jeremym480
                    Speak it into existence
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 18197

                    #10
                    Re: fix for sacks? anyone found 1 yet?

                    No roster editing, playing online CFM and using Charter sliders with an adjustment or two and here's what I have in Year 2 of my Titans CFM:

                    WK 1 - CAR - 4 SACKS
                    WK 2 - NO - 2
                    WK 3 - ATL - 3
                    WK 4 - IND - 2
                    WK 5 - PIT - 5 (3 on Big Ben, 2 on L. Jones)
                    WK 6 - IND - 0
                    WK 7 - NE - 4 (2 on Brady, 2 on Jimmy G)

                    So that's 20 sacks in 7 games which is around 2.85 sacks per game. Probably still a little high, but not too bad.

                    On an interesting note as well as the sake of comparison my QB's have been sacked 22 times.
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                    • adamj2281
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 814

                      #11
                      Re: fix for sacks? anyone found 1 yet?

                      I was having this issue and found that improving the CPU running game (increase run block) and lower user tackling helped by getting the CPU in less 3rd and longs. They still occur and I still get sacks, but it's a lot more balanced and fun.

                      I used Armor and Sword's slider set.

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                      • BadAssHskr
                        XSX
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 3511

                        #12
                        Re: fix for sacks? anyone found 1 yet?

                        Originally posted by jeremym480
                        No roster editing, playing online CFM and using Charter sliders with an adjustment or two and here's what I have in Year 2 of my Titans CFM:

                        WK 1 - CAR - 4 SACKS
                        WK 2 - NO - 2
                        WK 3 - ATL - 3
                        WK 4 - IND - 2
                        WK 5 - PIT - 5 (3 on Big Ben, 2 on L. Jones)
                        WK 6 - IND - 0
                        WK 7 - NE - 4 (2 on Brady, 2 on Jimmy G)

                        So that's 20 sacks in 7 games which is around 2.85 sacks per game. Probably still a little high, but not too bad.

                        On an interesting note as well as the sake of comparison my QB's have been sacked 22 times.

                        My numbers are a lot more like you are seeing. Im playing AP, with my variation of the A&S set, i get to thinking perhaps theyve gotten it toned down a bit server side.

                        I have no clue if thats the case, but through preseason, sacks havent been to worry some, except me being able to get rid of the ball at times.
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                        • booker21
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 4928

                          #13
                          Re: fix for sacks? anyone found 1 yet?

                          Mine usually is
                          Week 1 4 sacks
                          Week 2 5 sacks
                          Week 3 3 sacks
                          Week 4 6 sacks
                          Week 5 10 sacks

                          And here is when i stop
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                          • schnaidt1
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                            • Sep 2008
                            • 5194

                            #14
                            Re: fix for sacks? anyone found 1 yet?

                            So...the consensus is the tuner did nothing as to what ea claimed? What bugs me is 1 month later and a patch hasn't even been announced....


                            I want to play and enjoy this game so much but typical ea gives us a broken game and refuses to fix it in a reasonable time...



                            Ugh can i get a refund?..


                            Cuz i won't play much when 2k comes out...

                            Learned my lesson for next year
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                            • JaymeeAwesome
                              Dynasty Guru
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 4152

                              #15
                              Re: fix for sacks? anyone found 1 yet?

                              The NFL average for 2013 was a total of 5 sacks per game. My slider set produces 6 sacks per game, slightly higher, but workable. I wouldn't agree that the game is broken...just inaccurate. I'm having a blast now that I found a slider set that works.....only took a month lol
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