NBA 2K15 - 44 More Details About the Game

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It's tough to tell of whom this post may be referring, for I've noticed that many of the folks who do not favor the direction of MyCareer (myself included) have actually seemed awfully willing to praise many of the other moves 2K's made this year (MyLeague, for starters, looks incredible).

Perhaps when there's an unpopular aspect introduced (seemingly the Doc Rivers angle), the disagreeable folks staying on topic and voicing their displeasure (and discussing it further as the thread & conversation may invite) drowns out the manner other aspects of the game that were previously praised in numerous other threads.

There's a lot of great alterations made by 2K this year. But that does not mean people must force positivity in other aspects they may not necessarily support. And regarding the buzz phrase "immersion killer", I think it's popping up because immersion issues themselves are popping up in the MyCareer mode, a mode whose former mission statement seemed as if immersion was the absolute name of the game. If 3 Ninjas dialogue negatively affects one's immersion, then I'm uncertain what else they're supposed to call it.

No particular as there have been some good ideas but they'll never been seen because the threads they're posted in are poison.

I don't think people take the constructive seriously but it's their waste of key strokes.

I honestly am not vested in this mode and hasn't since the first one so it makes me no difference. I play to enjoy myself for my 60 bucks either way.


Immersion killer for a game people haven't played yet off of their personal gripes as if it's everyones and it's not. I hate buzz words period. ... this is no acception.

[lakers24]

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1 players get injured 2 teams can under achive (im sure in 95 people said no way george karl would leave peyton and kemp) 3 pop said hed retire when tim does 1 year 2? Those teams you mentiond could have completly diferent rosters by the time he get there not to mention your myplayer being a 90 overal. Rivers has alot of connections to other teams as well, played for the hawks, knicks coached the magic, celtics.My point is the landscape of the nba can chance so drastically over time and there are soooo many variables. Its not as unrealistic as people claim. coaches moving to teams that have great young superstar tallent is pretty common. Phill jackson x3, mike brown,doc rivers(remeber how he got to L.a bet boston fans a year before said hed never leave us) Larry brown,george karl. Ithink our mental model of a coach is based on pop in this age,and we fail to realize how truly rare it is to have a guy like that, in that situation, with those types of players.

Again, I think you miss what my post is actually alluding to. The entire scenario is scripted when it doesn't need to be(this doesn't even begin to touch on how your career begins and then you have this happening for you within months of getting 10 day contracts). That's the crux of the issue. For example, this is the exact wording in the first post:

" During your second year, Doc Rivers will take over as the head coach of your team. Players will have a more intense relationship with Rivers than with the coaches from last year, as he has expectations for how he wants you to perform and what you should be focusing on in a particular game situation. These include tutorial-like pre-game meetings with assistant coaches where they go over points of emphasis."

Now read this:

"Players will have a more intense relationship with the head coach now than with the coaches from last year, as he has expectations for how he wants you to perform and what you should be focusing on in a particular game situation. These include tutorial-like pre-game meetings with assistant coaches where they go over points of emphasis."

See the difference? It's essentially the same thing without forcing it upon you. Does him recording lines really need to alter the experience as a whole? Couldn't they have just focused on us having to play more to our coaches liking without having to force a specific person on us no matter where we are?

I know you are probably thinking it isn't a big deal, and I'm not one of those guys that cries over everything and I will enjoy this game. But, for arguments sake, would you like it if Kevin Durant was the only "mentor" recorded and he got traded to wherever you were in your second season?

[VDusen04]

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for arguments sake, would you like it if Kevin Durant was the only "mentor" recorded and he got traded to wherever you were in your second season?

And with that, the NBA 2K16 MyCareer storyline was born.

[The 24th Letter]

NBA 2K15 - 44 More Details About the Game

Actually....never mind

[City_foxx]

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I having not seen 1 post where a person like the linear forcefed storyline. I dont like them either. I hope in the future the stories will be more skyrim like and less say legend of zelda? Using the rpg analagy rather poorly ik but i was struggling to think of a popular prg that has a force fed linear story line. Im chosing to focus on the new posibilitys they are intruducing like coach inter action game planning mentoring, we having seen any vids of riviver in the game yet dont know how involved it is. Would be understandable why they only got to 1 coach if its pretty involved in its 1st year of implementing. Also i think we would have been more receptive about the coach following you to the team if he was fictional or maybe even a colledge coach. Maybe a player coach linked story line where you coach get young star and they spend thier careers to gether...Or you hate him try and dwite him, or just as for trade bam new rival ect ect ect.

[biatch0]

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--To keep players from maxing out all their skills with 99 ratings, the developers are changing how you upgrade your player. Instead of micromanaging how points fall into individual attributes, you drop them into buckets based on specialties like perimeter shooting, dunking, defense, and passing. You can upgrade multiple buckets, but you have a limited amount of total upgrades. This creates more realistic progressions and guarantees that players max out in the low 90s overall instead of at 99.

Not sure how this works exactly yet... so I might change my mind later... but right now, this doesn't sound so good. Of course, I may be missing the context since the site is unreachable for me.

Is there any particular reason why we need to be capped in the low 90s besides realism of course? If KD is a 95, and Lebron has dropped to 96-98 somewhere... why can't me as a 5'10" desk jockey IRL who magically morphed into a NBA 6'10" PF get a 99 rating? I mean I have MAGIC on my side... Scrap the caps for MyCareer IMO. It's a largely offline mode that doesn't affect anybody... if you take your player online then cap it for online.

[City_foxx]

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Actually....never mind

I shoulda read this dudes post before i posted now i feel like an ***.Easy to forget though gamers can be just as passionate about the game as the devs making it.Ok im done after over doing it two post ago. At least i can claim forum noob status!

[Retropyro]

So I take it the ability to request a trade has been removed from My Career?

[EliJ27]

In MyGM, that scanned player is your MP and is the GM. Why would you want a player that looks like the MyGM?

hahaha idk man i just don't play MyPlayer but i like to create myself in the game,

[Anthony292]

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My career used to be my favorite mode,but these story lines kinda killed it for me now I'm a myleague guy.

[VDusen04]

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Immersion killer for a game people haven't played yet off of their personal gripes as if it's everyones and it's not. I hate buzz words period. ... this is no acception.

If I may, I do not believe one must own the game to recognize how forced, stunted, and poorly written storylines may negatively affect one's connection with realism. Similarly, I do not believe we must play the game firsthand before we can gather how the return of signature size-up dribbles may positively aide in immersion. It would appear most of those opposed to certain MyCareer details have done so in a respectful manner, often with reasonable explanations for their stance. I do not believe it means anyone is attempting to suggest that there aren't those who are in favor of many of the very alterations for which we object.

As for the word "immersion", I still feel it is being used for a reason. MyPlayer was a mode whose initial cornerstone was, in fact, ultimate immersion. That has clearly changed over the years and many do not support such a change. It seems to be a matter of opinion. If a group's issue with a new aspect of MyCareer is that it makes it feel less like they're really playing in the NBA, again, I'm not sure if there's a better word to use than immersion. Unless, again, we just want to go with "implementation detrimental to the realistic portrayal of a simulation product and subsequent enjoyment derived from a mode largely hinged upon immersion", a phrase for which I am beginning to warm up.

[bxfinest15]

I'm guessing we're still gonna have to score damn near 100 a game to even come remotely close to winning in MyCareer because they've said nothing on teammate AI... They dance around the **** every year.

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If I may, I do not believe one must own the game to recognize how forced, stunted, and poorly written storylines may negatively affect one's connection with realism. Similarly, I do not believe we must play the game firsthand before we can gather how the return of signature size-up dribbles may positively aide in immersion. It would appear most of those opposed to certain MyCareer details have done so in a respectful manner, often with reasonable explanations for their stance. I do not believe it means anyone is attempting to suggest that there aren't those who are in favor of many of the very alterations for which we object.

As for the word "immersion", I still feel it is being used for a reason. MyPlayer was a mode whose initial cornerstone was, in fact, ultimate immersion. That has clearly changed over the years and many do not support such a change. It seems to be a matter of opinion. If a group's issue with a new aspect of MyCareer is that it makes it feel less like they're really playing in the NBA, again, I'm not sure if there's a better word to use than immersion. Unless, again, we just want to go with "implementation detrimental to the realistic portrayal of a simulation product and subsequent enjoyment derived from a mode largely hinged upon immersion", a phrase for which I am beginning to warm up.

..and again as I said thats a personal preference, because NONE of that is an immersion killer for everyone. Its just a buzzword being thrown around this year.

If I want to play as a singular player Ill create a player put him on a team and use player lock during the season in my league.

I mean I understand your frustrations here, but in alot of ways its just not the case for everyone. None of this stuff was thrown around last year now its a HUGE issue and immersion killer NOW....

I don't think we have to agree on this but there are other parts to the game so my career my league my gm the park whatever, find what gives you the most enjoyment and do that....

[VDusen04]

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..and again as I said thats a personal preference, because NONE of that is an immersion killer for everyone. Its just a buzzword being thrown around this year.

If I want to play as a singular player Ill create a player put him on a team and use player lock during the season in my league.

I mean I understand your frustrations here, but in alot of ways its just not the case for everyone. None of this stuff was thrown around last year now its a HUGE issue and immersion killer NOW....

I don't think we have to agree on this but there are other parts to the game so my career my league my gm the park whatever, find what gives you the most enjoyment and do that....

I feel we're close to being on the same page here. I was not approaching people's use of the word "immersion" (or any phrases of similar meaning) as a blanket statement suggesting that everyone's immersion must be negatively effected. It seemed quite clear that many people favor a lot of the changes. I was using the word in reference only to what a particular aspect of the game may do for my own immersion. It seemed that's how others were using it as well (referring to themselves and their own immersion, not speaking for others). Knowing this forum as well as I do, I am unsure I would ever feel comfortable trying to speak for everyone, and I mean that as a compliment to the diversity of OperationSports.

Regarding your final paragraph, there most certainly appears to be at least one non-Quick Game mode this year that really seems to appeal to me (MyLeague). I have written much in favor of that mode and if I purchase 2K15, barring something unforeseen not functioning correctly, it seems like I'll be able to really enjoy playing this game.

However, I also have an interest in MyPlayer. I would really like to see something offered that leans back toward the authentic NBA experience. That does not mean everyone must also want such an alteration, nor does it mean I am not entitled to make my case for a re-shift. I find it to be a similar situation to MyGM last season. Many gamers loved it. I, amongst many others, did not enjoy the mode and stated as such (oftentime at length). No one has much of an idea as to how that influenced the development of MyLeague, but sometimes voices matter.

All that said, you likely will not often find me in threads about Online play, Park and MyTeam, for I have little to no interest in those modes (save for MyTeam's penchant for reeling in additional legends into the 2K fold). I speak on MyCareer because I am interested in MyCareer. If I feel there are aspects I do not care for, I tend to try to discuss them in their rightful threads. However, my displeasure for certain aspects of a particular mode should not be mistaken for an inability to find enjoyment in many other realms of a given game.

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I feel we're close to being on the same page here. I was not approaching people's use of the word "immersion" (or any phrases of similar meaning) as a blanket statement suggesting that everyone's immersion must be negatively effected. It seemed quite clear that many people favor a lot of the changes. I was using the word in reference only to what a particular aspect of the game may do for my own immersion. It seemed that's how others were using it as well (referring to themselves and their own immersion, not speaking for others). Knowing this forum as well as I do, I am unsure I would ever feel comfortable trying to speak for everyone, and I mean that as a compliment to the diversity of OperationSports.

Regarding your final paragraph, there most certainly appears to be at least one non-Quick Game mode this year that really seems to appeal to me (MyLeague). I have written much in favor of that mode and if I purchase 2K15, barring something unforeseen not functioning correctly, it seems like I'll be able to really enjoy playing this game.

However, I also have an interest in MyPlayer. I would really like to see something offered that leans back toward the authentic NBA experience. That does not mean everyone must also want such an alteration, nor does it mean I am not entitled to make my case for a re-shift. I find it to be a similar situation to MyGM last season. Many gamers loved it. I, amongst many others, did not enjoy the mode and stated as such (oftentime at length). No one has much of an idea as to how that influenced the development of MyLeague, but sometimes voices matter.

All that said, you likely will not often find me in threads about Online play, Park and MyTeam, for I have little to no interest in those modes (save for MyTeam's penchant for reeling in additional legends into the 2K fold). I speak on MyCareer because I am interested in MyCareer. If I feel there are aspects I do not care for, I tend to try to discuss them in their rightful threads. However, my displeasure for certain aspects of a particular mode should not be mistaken for an inability to find enjoyment in many other realms of a given game.

We're not far off man... but then again my original statements earlier wasn't for ones like you anyway.

I even got a bit excited when I saw the coaching video which gave me some feeling of now wanting to play because of that type of aspect/direction.

I just don't think its going to benefit this community with the way things were heading with the massive amounts of complaining... constructive stuff is far and in between because of it. I've seen you, Born and a few others offer some ideas that may or may not be something they'd be interested in using or similar but in the middle of all of this I highly doubt the devs are bothering with this thread.