NBA 2K15 has NO regard for Fouls.

[Nathan_OS]

Don't get me wrong. This is a good game minus a couple of glitches here and there, this game is enjoyable.

However I've come across an issue; an issue that's really been in every 2K I've played.

The refs do not blow their whistles. And it would be fine if they at LEAST called a shooting fouls twice every quarter for both the ai and human. However, you'll be lucky if you even get one.

In the NBA last season, the lowest FT attempts by team was 20 and that was the Knicks. Kevin Durant averaged 10 free throws by him self. Demar Derozan averaged 8.

So I decided to do a test. I tried it out 3 different times with 6 different teams.

I played on Superstar, Simulation. However, I changed some sliders. I put all the fouls up on both user and cpu, changed the CPU "Attack the basket" tendency all the way to 100. Put " Shoot midrange" and "Shoot 3 Point" tendency to Zero. Also put "contest shots frequency"for both cpu and user all the way to 100.

I only, however, started to actually record notes of the issue in the 2nd quarter a game where the Hawks were playing the Raptors. I was the Raptors. I decided to start tallying how many times both teams went to the basket and fouls were called at about the 5th minute of the second quarter. I kept note ONLY ON CONTACT ANIMATIONS SHOTS

Both teams ended up going to the line for a combined amount of 10 times. They however drew a contact animation 83 times.

That is a serious problem. Don't know if that can be patched but to go to bucket that many times and only get the whistle blew 10 times?

That's a serious problem. For those of you guys who are able to draw fouls and cpu is also drawing fouls, please share your secret.

Hes the Team Comparison Stats below.

[Nathan_OS]

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Team Comparison

[BBallcoach]

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Teams average 23 free throws per game IRL, Last year the high was 31/game and the low was 20/game, but it seems like from your data, if they called on average 33% more fouls the numbers would be pretty close to real life numbers. And as your data suggests the number of contact plays are there for the fouls to be called. Great work sir.

[Nathan_OS]

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I don't see why this isn't an easy fix. By default, the shooting foul frequency is at 50. Users should be afraid to put it at 100.

And teams don't get into the bonus enough in this game to make up for it. It's been a game killer so far for me.


It kills me when I'm driving with DRose, or Melo, or Westbrook in this game knowing that most of the takes that they're taking would be fouls in real life.

[worstsportsgamer1977]

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i rarely get foul calls on clear fouls attacking the rim. on the other hand the computer gets ton of calls around the basket. its like playing street ball witha a guy that always calls foul when he misses the shot.

[timsmooth503pa]

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Turn all the fouls to 100 and yall get some different results

[Pared]

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Do you think this is a serious problem?

[Nathan_OS]

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Turn all the fouls to 100 and yall get some different results

Did you even read the op my man? ...

I put all the fouls to 100. I'm not getting different results

[jayman504]

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THANK YOU....I was just about to post this in the Patch section. My team hardly ever gets to the line...while the CPU practically lives there. Pretty much every game I've played I have never outshot the CPU from the line and I'm way more aggressive getting into the paint then they are...

[richmo]

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Do you think this is a serious problem?

Pared...bro...I'm not saying it's a game killer but... Really it sticks out like a sore thumb because as it piles up over the course of the game, it starts to affect certain stats like FG% and can change the outcome of the game, which happens with no-calls in real life, but this isn't just a couple no- calls. This is all-quarter, all-game, every game, ya feel me?

[Nathan_OS]

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Do you think this is a serious problem?

Yes sir. And I say this in a gentle tone: Don't you?

If we're aiming for simulation basketball, then fouls play a big part in it also.

[Nathan_OS]

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In simcast, I've seen teams live at the free throw line. Played a game Lakers vs Phoenix and Phoenix had 42 free throws and Lakers had 23. Why can't this be replicated in game?

[Bornindamecca]

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Great work, Nathan. Re: Pared--I do think it's a serious enough issue that they should fix it. The slider not having an effect is no good. Even more so, the fouls in this game are awesome when they happen. Some of the best animations and situations I've ever seen for fouls. Half the reason a lot of great players are great is their ability to get to the line.

[2_headedmonster]

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yea, good supporting info. id agree its a real issue.

people want physicality , but fouls go with that. In all honesty, 2k is much more physical than the nba. Id say a vast majority of the contact animations around the rim are clear fouls that dont get called.

[DIESEL]

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This is a tricky issue.

Getting an accurate number of free throw attempts in the game is a lot easier said then done. Here are some of the issues I see.

1. Lack of non-shooting fouls.

I just flipped on a pre-season game on NBA TV and the first possession I saw the center on offense beat his man down the floor and establish deep paint position. The defender basically hockey checked him out of the paint.....WHISTLE!!

Over the back, reaching in, blocking, hand checking....etc. These calls are consistently called in the real NBA but not in 2k15. These "cheap" fouls lead to the penalty. The penalty leads to FTA's.

Now with that being said are users willing to let a "dice roll" give Andre Drummond 2 fouls in the first 4 minutes of a game while they are guarding the PG or is that CPU cheese?


2. It's too hard to foul.

I actually like the rebounding down low this year. Ratings seem to actually matter in who is winning the battle for the boards. But part of the "putback problem" is the lack of fouls. Dwight, Drummond, Deandre etc. should be monsters on the offensive glass. But IRL if they grab a board under the basket and come back down to the floor, anyone in arm's length is giving them a bear hug....WHISTLE!!!

Same goes for Lebron on a the break. Irl those bitches are hugging it out before LBJ runs through them....WHISTLE!!! Maybe even a flagrant.

There needs to be a No Layups POE. The user and the CPU should be able to direct defenders to intentionally foul anyone with the ball below the dotted line in the paint. This would lead to more FTA's and additional strategy.You might actually have to use that 3rd string center when Dwight comes to town. Another welcome side effect would be the decrease in the points in the paint that would become free throws.

3. Fouls are not fun.

I am a sim junkie. I want the stats to be as real as possible. But I can't press through the foul cut scenes fast enough. If 2K were to add a realistic number of fouls you have to give the user the option to cut right back to the action and skip the first free throw all together. We want the stats but we don't need a 2 hour game.

I think the game handles shooting fouls fairly well. I'd say I average about 15 fta's a game and the CPU around 10 on default sim settings. It is realistic for there to be a lot of contact animations on drives without being called a foul. I like the randomness of the foul calls on drives.


If 2K puts in animations for all the "other" fouls that occur in a real NBA game the free throw numbers will get to where want them. But this definitely would need to be a "hardcore real fouls simulation" setting. Otherwise we might have to shut down OS.