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  • Siorai56
    Rookie
    • Mar 2007
    • 56

    #31
    Re: EA Sports UFC Free Content Update Available Now - Adds 4 New Fighters & Some Fixe

    Originally posted by DaveDQ
    We have to look though at other titles in comparison and how each hold the same price tags but give different areas of depth in the content dept.. At times it is clear that the Dev team heard the fans and made updates based on what feedback they got, but other times it is obvious the game was rushed out (again, most likely not by devs but EA upper mgmt.) and certain elements had to be left out and then added along the way.
    I think your overall point is well made, however, I disagree with the point above. The lack of depth probably accounts for a skepticism of the market. You can't take games like NHL or Madden and compare them to EA's first real offering on the sport (I don't count EA MMA, it would be like comparing the NFL and CFL from a licensing and corporate backing perspective).

    The effort was clear, we (EA) are going to focus on presentation, mechanics, and support in the first round, and based off that, gauge user interest on things to build on coming in UFC 2. If you look at it from a business perspective it works, you've shown a commitment to the community with updates, you have a solid foundation as far as gameplay is concerned, and you have people itching for specific features you can conceivably deliver on the next time around.

    EA if nothing else is predictable and like any other company with a brand wants consistency across products. I'd be shocked not to see a massive improvement in modes in the 2nd offering and my expectation is it would have mode depth similar to Madden/NHL/FIFA. They make money hand over foot with Ultimate Team add ons and theres no reason to believe that wouldn't translate.

    Undisputed illustrated how this demo buys, I would expect a company like EA (Canada, let me be clear) to be smarter about how they are going to deliver and so far we are trending in the direction I was hoping to see. That's not to say you are 100% correct in being critical, my soliloquy aside, ZERO presence of a tourney or PPV event mode is frustrating, even I can't tell you that turd is a snickers bar.

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    • DaveDQ
      13
      • Sep 2003
      • 7664

      #32
      Re: EA Sports UFC Free Content Update Available Now - Adds 4 New Fighters & Some Fixe

      I somewhat agree but would argue that the lack of features has more to do with the new consoles than it does a new game. NHL, a game that was packed full of features on the 360 last year, came to the xbox one lacking many features.

      Also, comparing a sports game to another sports game made produced by the same company is fair. This idea that, "well it was their first go at it so we cant expect too much" should also then be accompanied with, "we shouldn't have to pay 59.99."

      I don't like that a company can release an unfinished product and charge full price.
      Being kind, one to another, never disappoints.

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      • Motown
        OS Brew Connoisseur
        • Jul 2002
        • 9169

        #33
        Re: EA Sports UFC Free Content Update Available Now - Adds 4 New Fighters & Some Fixe

        Originally posted by DaveDQ
        I somewhat agree but would argue that the lack of features has more to do with the new consoles than it does a new game. NHL, a game that was packed full of features on the 360 last year, came to the xbox one lacking many features.

        Also, comparing a sports game to another sports game made produced by the same company is fair. This idea that, "well it was their first go at it so we cant expect too much" should also then be accompanied with, "we shouldn't have to pay 59.99."

        I don't like that a company can release an unfinished product and charge full price.
        When it comes to NG Consoles, the word "lack" shouldn't even come into play. ridiculous.

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        • aholbert32
          (aka Alberto)
          • Jul 2002
          • 33106

          #34
          Re: EA Sports UFC Free Content Update Available Now - Adds 4 New Fighters & Some Fixe

          Originally posted by DaveDQ
          I somewhat agree but would argue that the lack of features has more to do with the new consoles than it does a new game. NHL, a game that was packed full of features on the 360 last year, came to the xbox one lacking many features.

          Also, comparing a sports game to another sports game made produced by the same company is fair. This idea that, "well it was their first go at it so we cant expect too much" should also then be accompanied with, "we shouldn't have to pay 59.99."

          I don't like that a company can release an unfinished product and charge full price.
          I dont completely agree with that. We are in the information age. So everyone who bought the game at launch knew exactly what they were getting. I paid more than retail for the game and I knew that it was going to lack depth. If someone bought this game at launch and was suprised by the issues they either didnt listen to the tons of posts and reviews panning the game at release or they didnt even research the game at all.

          To be honest, I dont think the game was unfinished at all. It was just bad. If you look at all of the patches, there have been maybe 10 moves added to the game (sprawls, touching gloves etc.). They havent added major features. They have basically done what most game companies do and thats release the game and make changes based on player feedback with patches.

          The difference here is that there were 6 patches which is way more than the typical number of patches to a game. My point is I dont have an issue with them charging 60 bucks at release. No one is forcing people to buy it at launch.

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          • GameplayDevUFC
            Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
            • Jun 2014
            • 2830

            #35
            Re: EA Sports UFC Free Content Update Available Now - Adds 4 New Fighters & Some Fixe

            "Complete" is a highly subjective criteria as well. Not trying to make excuses or anything, but it's true. How can you objectively define when EA Sports UFC is complete or not?

            Like aholbert said, it's not like we promised feature X and then left it out. That would certainly be considered an incomplete game.

            It may have been incomplete when compared to expectations, and I think that's where a lot of the frustration came from, especially at launch. But again, that's highly subjective as everyone's expectations are different.

            I'm just happy we were given the opportunity to make the game better than it was at launch.
            Last edited by GameplayDevUFC; 01-24-2015, 05:39 PM.

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            • NYG_Meth
              The OS Artist Guy
              • May 2003
              • 3920

              #36
              Re: EA Sports UFC Free Content Update Available Now - Adds 4 New Fighters & Some Fixe

              Hey Gameplay, thanks so much for your continued interaction with the community. It continues to exceed expectations.

              Given your username, I assume this is out of your jurisdiction, but do you know if there's any way more time and resources can be put into the Create-a-Fighter mode for UFC 2? The gameface feature didn't work very well, and there was no way to edit the in-game model.

              My thoughts for UFC 2:

              Import Gameface: Hopefully a little more accurate representation of the online version. Either way, provide sliders and capabilities for advanced tuning and tweaking of the in-game model. Also allow modification of things like hair, facial hair, etc.

              Create from Scratch: Ever since the inclusion of "gameface" modes, the original model of creating players/fighters took a big hit. Now we're left with a handful of premade models with no ability to edit or fine-tune them, and given how high-quality the licensed fighter models are, both in terms of detail in the model AND the texture, I thought of something that could work for the created fighters that would elevate them to the high standard of the licensed guys/girls.

              Here's how it would work--- provide us with the standard 8-10 or so skintones, but for each skin tone, provide numerous high-res textures that can be applied to give variety and detail to the created fighters (even if they don't use gameface). Also give the player the ability to manually sculpt and tweak the faces with sliders, etc.

              I think this would some much needed depth to the feature.

              What does everyone think of this?
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              • GameplayDevUFC
                Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                • Jun 2014
                • 2830

                #37
                Re: EA Sports UFC Free Content Update Available Now - Adds 4 New Fighters & Some Fixe

                Yeah sorry, completely out of my jurisdiction.

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                • NYG_Meth
                  The OS Artist Guy
                  • May 2003
                  • 3920

                  #38
                  Re: EA Sports UFC Free Content Update Available Now - Adds 4 New Fighters & Some Fixe

                  Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
                  Yeah sorry, completely out of my jurisdiction.
                  Figured as much lol. One can hope though =)
                  MIKE METH
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                  • DaveDQ
                    13
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 7664

                    #39
                    Re: EA Sports UFC Free Content Update Available Now - Adds 4 New Fighters & Some Fixe

                    I think in terms of what I was hoping for. That's obviously bias and I understand that. I bought the game at launch and hit the digital copy. I was all in, and like aholbert mentioned, we all knew what was up with the game.

                    I am a big fan of the fight night series. I also loved ea mma. I loved the step they took with that game's online functionality.

                    I hope I don't come across as bashing. That's not my intention.
                    Being kind, one to another, never disappoints.

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                    • GameplayDevUFC
                      Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 2830

                      #40
                      Re: EA Sports UFC Free Content Update Available Now - Adds 4 New Fighters & Some Fixe

                      Originally posted by DaveDQ
                      I hope I don't come across as bashing. That's not my intention.
                      No not at all. Not much is going to bother me at this point I don't think. I've been pretty open about the short comings in the game, especially early on.

                      I think it was one of the UFC embedded series I was watching, when they did the open workouts at EA and Dana or one of the fighters were playing. They KO'd a guy but didn't realize the fight was over because finish the fight wasn't in.

                      I think it was that video that started the whole process. I was kind of embarrassed by that, I figured I could get it working in a couple of weeks. We weren't doing anything else at the time so I gave it a shot, it worked, and since we had a patch planned for the roster additions I was allowed to put that change in. And then we just kept going.

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                      • fishingtime
                        Handling it
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 1738

                        #41
                        Re: EA Sports UFC Free Content Update Available Now - Adds 4 New Fighters & Some Fixe

                        Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
                        "Complete" is a highly subjective criteria as well. Not trying to make excuses or anything, but it's true. How can you objectively define when EA Sports UFC is complete or not?

                        Like aholbert said, it's not like we promised feature X and then left it out. That would certainly be considered an incomplete game.

                        It may have been incomplete when compared to expectations, and I think that's where a lot of the frustration came from, especially at launch. But again, that's highly subjective as everyone's expectations are different.

                        I'm just happy we were given the opportunity to make the game better than it was at launch.
                        Unfortunately people cry about it not being the same game they bought, but it is so much better than at launch. Especially now. Not perfect, but still a great game.
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                        • Gotmadskillzson
                          Live your life
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 23441

                          #42
                          Re: EA Sports UFC Free Content Update Available Now - Adds 4 New Fighters & Some Fixe

                          I consider this game good but not great. My standards for a great game is pretty high. A lot of things I see in this game that I play daily I don't like, but I simply overlook for now. But when the sequel comes out, most of these problems I see in game play better be fixed for a game that comes out every other year.

                          Some problems I don't like.

                          1. If you stand still and don't move, the CPU will do the same and sometimes 20 seconds will go by with both guys just standing. I would like to see the CPU attack more.

                          2. I would like to see fighter specific moves. For some reason EA thinks every fighter throws a front kick. I would say way too many fighters in this game have a front kick. So I would like to see fighter specific strikes and fighter specific throws and take downs.

                          3. Leg kicks need to MEAN SOMETHING. This aspect of MMA no company who ever made a MMA game ever got correct. Leg kicks look pretty but THEY DO NOTHING. Leg kicks should severely limit a fighter's speed of movement and effect their chances on take downs, take down defense and even throwing a kick or a punch. Leg kick TKO need to happen as well.

                          4. Knee strikes are way too weak. You can knee a guy in the face 25 times in a row before he actually gets KO'ed most of the time. And knee strikes to the body don't do enough damage. Hell body strikes in general don't do enough damage.

                          5. I don't like how easily the CPU pushes your arms away when you go for a muay thai clinch in the center of the ring. It seems like they automatically block it. Shouldn't be that way. Also don't like how the CPU don't dirty box in the single collar tie.

                          6. I don't like how fast the CPU moves going backwards when you are going forward trying to finish the fight off when you got him hurt.

                          7. I don't like that there is no USER control over wanting to throw a leg kick when you want to throw it.

                          8. I would prefer to see way more variety in take downs and throws. Some double legs, some driving double legs, double leg side scoop slams, some lifting single legs, more variety in judo throws and leg trips.

                          9. I would prefer the submission game to be much simpler and easier on a person's control sticks without a screen interface playing some stupid mini game just to get a sub. IMO the success of a person slapping on a submission move should be based on their sub offensive rating and the opponents sub defensive rating. No mini game should be involved at all.

                          Having to play mini game just kills all the immersion and quickly reminds you of yes, you are indeed playing a video game.

                          10. More submission moves added, standing submissions, back submissions.

                          Once EA UFC has all those things, I would consider this a great game. Until then it is just a good game.

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                          • tc020791
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 2012

                            #43
                            Re: EA Sports UFC Free Content Update Available Now - Adds 4 New Fighters & Some Fixe

                            Two things that come straight to mind for me would being allowed to watch the other fights on your card and also being able to look at every result you've had in your career and who it was against.

                            With that being said I still love this game, big ups to EA, I can't wait for the next one.

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                            • Flightwhite24
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 12095

                              #44
                              Re: EA Sports UFC Free Content Update Available Now - Adds 4 New Fighters & Some Fixe

                              For those still interested in buying this game you can pick it up at Best Buy pre-owned for $19.99


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                              • timmg
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 1383

                                #45
                                Re: EA Sports UFC Free Content Update Available Now - Adds 4 New Fighters & Some Fixe

                                Im on xb1 does this update automatically, i cnt find it

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