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    • Mar 2006
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    #241
    Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

    Brady had an AV of 16 and Dillon had an AV of 15 (while missing a game) for that 2004 Patriots team. So yeah, I'd say that Dillon was pretty valuable to the success of their championship team that year.

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    • SPTO
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      • Feb 2003
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      #242
      Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

      So this will take some projection and I know the injuries already have had an impact but what about Gronk? I think if he can have 4-5 years being healthy he could be within shouting distance of the HOF.
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      • redsox4evur
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2013
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        #243
        Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

        Originally posted by SPTO
        So this will take some projection and I know the injuries already have had an impact but what about Gronk? I think if he can have 4-5 years being healthy he could be within shouting distance of the HOF.
        Easily the best true TE of his generation. IMO he is the only true great TE in the league. Graham doesn't block. But he needs to stay healthy like you said. There is a good chance he will be in there. Also if this team stays together there is a good chance he gets at least 1 more ring.
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        • TripleCrown9
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          • May 2010
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          #244
          Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

          Originally posted by redsox4evur
          Easily the best true TE of his generation. IMO he is the only true great TE in the league. Graham doesn't block. But he needs to stay healthy like you said. There is a good chance he will be in there. Also if this team stays together there is a good chance he gets at least 1 more ring.
          What do you consider "his generation"?
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          • ProfessaPackMan
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            • Mar 2008
            • 63852

            #245
            Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

            Best TE of his generation? Don't know about all that.

            What's considered "his generation"?
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            • OSUFan_88
              Outback Jesus
              • Jul 2004
              • 25642

              #246
              Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

              Depends on Gronk's "generation" as has been said, but I think he's probably going to get in.

              Also, did I just see people remember Dillon as a Patriot? Always will remember Dillon as a beast of a Bengal.
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              • redsox4evur
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2013
                • 18169

                #247
                Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

                My thoughts on Gronk's generation is when he came in to whenever he finishes. You could it is arguable because of Gates and Gonzalez but they are both either in the end of their prime to retiring. As of right now he is the best true TE in the league. But we need to see how long he lasts and how many games he plays.

                And what about the both of them? Gates and Gonzalez.
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                • OSUFan_88
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                  • Jul 2004
                  • 25642

                  #248
                  Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

                  Gates and Gonzo are no doubt hall of famers. Not even a question. A mortal lock, IMO.
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                  • Hooe
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 21555

                    #249
                    Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

                    Because I am a blind Cowboy homer and the discussion is about tight ends:

                    Jason Witten - Hall of Famer?

                    He's certainly a Dallas Cowboys Ring of Honor caliber player.

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                    • jWILL253
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                      • Jun 2008
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                      #250
                      Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

                      Wait a minute... Gronk only has about two full healthy seasons under his belt, and has only been in the league since 2010. But you're ready to call him the best TE of his generation, and you're implying that he is future HoF talent.

                      Yet, Marshawn Lynch has only missed 6-7 games total due to injury during a stint in the league that's over 7 years and counting, and has only missed one game to injury since coming to Seattle, while performing at an elite level with a a more punishing style than Gronk plays with... and he's not HoF material?

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                      • PurplePitchers
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                        • Jul 2011
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                        #251
                        Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

                        Originally posted by CM Hooe
                        Because I am a blind Cowboy homer and the discussion is about tight ends:

                        Jason Witten - Hall of Famer?

                        He's certainly a Dallas Cowboys Ring of Honor caliber player.
                        I would assume so. You can't put Gates in the Hof and not put Witten in.
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                        • OSUFan_88
                          Outback Jesus
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 25642

                          #252
                          Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

                          Originally posted by jWILL253
                          Wait a minute... Gronk only has about two full healthy seasons under his belt, and has only been in the league since 2010. But you're ready to call him the best TE of his generation, and you're implying that he is future HoF talent.

                          Yet, Marshawn Lynch has only missed 6-7 games total due to injury during a stint in the league that's over 7 years and counting, and has only missed one game to injury since coming to Seattle, while performing at an elite level with a a more punishing style than Gronk plays with... and he's not HoF material?

                          Gronk has been a game changing TE that has almost freakishly changed the position along with Jimmy Graham.

                          Marshawn Lynch is a very good power back...that statistically hasn't done anything incredibly elite outside of his 1 year of 5.0 average.
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                          • redsox4evur
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 18169

                            #253
                            Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

                            Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                            Gronk has been a game changing TE that has almost freakishly changed the position along with Jimmy Graham.

                            Marshawn Lynch is a very good power back...that statistically hasn't done anything incredibly elite outside of his 1 year of 5.0 average.
                            You are wrong about Gronk changing position. He is a mix of new school and old school. Graham is going to be the one that is changing the position. Because he is a straight up WR that has the measurables of a TE. Whereas Gronk can catch the ball but he is also a great blocker. Which people need to understand. Graham is just a WR with TE listed as his position. Don't forget he tried to get himself changed from a TE to WR when he got franchised.

                            But yea Gronk is an elite TE and right now there are not any other TE's, IMO, that are better all-around TEs than Gronk. And he seems to be liked by the media. But I posed a question earlier about Gates and Gonzalez and neither have a ring and they are both locks. And IMO if Gronk stays healthy as has some good QB play, which it seems like he will, he probably will have at a minimum have stats that are comparable to Gates and Gonzalez. But the only that Lynch seems to have going in his favor is the 1 SB ring. As I stated earlier, he has stats that are comparable to Brian Westbrook, Eddie George, and Clinton Portis and none of them are being talked about as HoFers just because they don't have the ring, which isn't a knock on just them they all played on some good teams but they also played on bad teams.
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                            • LowerWolf
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 12274

                              #254
                              Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

                              Since he's about to retire, how about Patrick Willis? Did his career go long enough for him to get in?

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                              • OSUFan_88
                                Outback Jesus
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 25642

                                #255
                                Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

                                Originally posted by LowerWolf
                                Since he's about to retire, how about Patrick Willis? Did his career go long enough for him to get in?
                                ...Too close to call, IMO. I would lean towards probably not in, because he didn't play long enough...but he was a force every year of his career.
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