Joe Montana Football 16: A Mysterious Game Remains Under Wraps

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  • roadman
    *ll St*r
    • Aug 2003
    • 26339

    #841
    Re: Joe Montana Football 16: A Mysterious Game Remains Under Wraps

    Originally posted by Steel4Reel
    No he didnt.

    He said he remembers the good times he had with APF and Backbreaker.

    APF was actually a good game but lacked substance.

    Backbreaker....I hated it, but some people enjoyed it to a point.

    Either way....he never said anything about those games being "great", nor did he say anything worthy of completely dismissing him.

    If you choose to, thats up to you. Pretty harsh, though.
    Actually, I just played that video a few times times back and forth.

    He did say highlight the good times with APF and Backbreaker, the words "he remembers" are not on the video.

    To me, that statement means he had some good times with APF and Backbreaker.

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    • nowayout47
      Rookie
      • Jan 2013
      • 68

      #842
      Re: Joe Montana Football 16: A Mysterious Game Remains Under Wraps

      I wub Backbreaker <3

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      • Segagendude
        Banned
        • Aug 2008
        • 7940

        #843
        Re: Joe Montana Football 16: A Mysterious Game Remains Under Wraps

        Backbreaker was nothing more than a Beta of the Euphoria engine, IMO.

        But on topic, the silence on this game is becoming deafening.

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        • Hooe
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2002
          • 21554

          #844
          Re: Joe Montana Football 16: A Mysterious Game Remains Under Wraps

          Originally posted by Segagendude
          Backbreaker was nothing more than a Beta of the Euphoria engine, IMO.

          But on topic, the silence on this game is becoming deafening.
          I wouldn't expect to hear much of anything concrete until we draw close to E3, the biggest press event of the year for the industry.

          That's assuming we hear anything before the conference itself starts, which isn't a given if this project is as super-secret as it has been to this point.

          All this just my opinion, of course.

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          • Lexicon
            Pro
            • Mar 2011
            • 759

            #845
            Re: Joe Montana Football 16: A Mysterious Game Remains Under Wraps

            I had good times with Backbreakers team creation

            The developers have no say on when official info gets released. That's up to Joe/whoever's publishing the game. It sounds, from some of Damon's tweets, that info was planned to be released a few months ago, but they decided they weren't ready.

            Even if this doesn't have anything to do with Microsoft, an E3 booth would serve this game very well. Get people's hands on it and let the word of mouth be part of the marketing.

            Unless it's really bad. In that case, they'll probably just keep quiet until release. I don't think that's the case, but we've seen that more times than we should have by now.
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            • tjspeaks
              Banned
              • Jun 2007
              • 407

              #846
              Re: Joe Montana Football 16: A Mysterious Game Remains Under Wraps

              Originally posted by Lexicon
              I had good times with Backbreakers team creation

              It was fun & awesome. If the NFL is still getting their Madden loot (and they will), I am not sure why they would care if fans are replicating their teams and players and enjoying the experience. The fans are not making money doing this. I would think any corporation would love to have fans (who buy their tickets and merchandise and watch their games which drives up their TV rights fees) investing their time and enjoying their product.

              In fact, the NFL should call Joe Montana right now (or Joe should call the NFL - he has their number) and insist this (full customization) occurs. The NFL should say we will take care of EA if they threaten a lawsuit!

              I have said it before: APF gameplay + NFL 2K5 presentation + BackBreaker logo editor = best game ever!
              Last edited by tjspeaks; 03-13-2015, 07:55 AM.

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              • roadman
                *ll St*r
                • Aug 2003
                • 26339

                #847
                Re: Joe Montana Football 16: A Mysterious Game Remains Under Wraps

                Originally posted by tjspeaks
                It was fun & awesome. If the NFL is still getting their Madden loot (and they will), I am not sure why they would care if fans are replicating their teams and players and enjoying the experience. The fans are not making money doing this. I would think any corporation would love to have fans (who buy their tickets and merchandise and watch their games which drives up their TV rights fees) investing their time and enjoying their product.

                In fact, the NFL should call Joe Montana right now (or Joe should call the NFL - he has their number) and insist this occurs. The NFL should say we will take care of EA if they threaten a lawsuit!

                I have said it before: APF gameplay + NFL 2K5 presentation + BackBreaker logo editor = best game ever!
                It's not about the fans or the consumers, it's about getting paid.

                Jim Brown sued EA several years ago for replicating him in a NFL football game.

                The NFL and EA have a fairly strong relationship. The NFL or EA won't do anything to jeopardize that relationship.

                Good for business, sad for consumers.

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                • dxyyz1
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 152

                  #848
                  Re: Joe Montana Football 16: A Mysterious Game Remains Under Wraps

                  Originally posted by dickey1331
                  Good/great either one shouldn't be used in the same sentence as Backbreaker.

                  That guy flat out bashes EA. That's enough to dismiss him. I didn't watch the whole video so I don't know what the point is but if you're bashing people within the first 20 seconds of a video you're gonna have a hard time of getting people to not dismiss you.
                  He likes to actually see simulation football being played not what ea keeps putting out year after year. One snap on madden 15 you find legacy issues, non realistic football movements, warping, players not being aware of whats around them. Its sad tbh that the developers think madden is anywhere close to being a sim football game at this conjecture.
                  Last edited by dxyyz1; 03-13-2015, 10:50 AM.

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                  • dickey1331
                    Everyday is Faceurary!
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 14285

                    #849
                    Re: Joe Montana Football 16: A Mysterious Game Remains Under Wraps

                    Originally posted by dxyyz1
                    He likes to actually see simulation football being played not what ea keeps putting out year after year. One snap on madden 15 you find legacy issues, non realistic football movements, warping, players not being aware of whats around them. Its sad tbh that the developers think madden is anywhere close to being a sim football game at this conjecture.

                    Welcome to console video games. You want a sim game go buy a computer and play Football Manager or Out of the Park. Those are sim games. What you're looking for you'll probably never find on a console.
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                    • dxyyz1
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 152

                      #850
                      Re: Joe Montana Football 16: A Mysterious Game Remains Under Wraps

                      Originally posted by dickey1331
                      Welcome to console video games. You want a sim game go buy a computer and play Football Manager or Out of the Park. Those are sim games. What you're looking for you'll probably never find on a console.
                      Why when games like MLB the show are simulation and actually are pushing consoles to their limits.

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                      • dickey1331
                        Everyday is Faceurary!
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 14285

                        #851
                        Re: Joe Montana Football 16: A Mysterious Game Remains Under Wraps

                        Originally posted by dxyyz1
                        Why when games like MLB the show are simulation and actually are pushing consoles to their limits.

                        I'm not sure if you read the Show forums or not but that game isn't perfect.

                        I know nothing about game development but I would assume baseball is easier to look/act sim than football. Football has more moving parts.

                        Also they can focus on one game console vs Madden has 2.
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                        Soccer: FC Dallas, Fleetwood Town
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                        NFL: Dallas Cowboys
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                        • sportyguyfl31
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 4745

                          #852
                          Re: Joe Montana Football 16: A Mysterious Game Remains Under Wraps

                          Originally posted by dickey1331
                          I'm not sure if you read the Show forums or not but that game isn't perfect.

                          I know nothing about game development but I would assume baseball is easier to look/act sim than football. Football has more moving parts.

                          Also they can focus on one game console vs Madden has 2.

                          Nah...you got it all wrong. Madden is the only game with legacy issues. Stop with all of that crazy talk.

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                          • aholbert32
                            (aka Alberto)
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 33106

                            #853
                            Re: Joe Montana Football 16: A Mysterious Game Remains Under Wraps

                            Originally posted by dxyyz1
                            Why when games like MLB the show are simulation and actually are pushing consoles to their limits.

                            There are tons of people who complain about the same issues with the Show.

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                            • dxyyz1
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 152

                              #854
                              Re: Joe Montana Football 16: A Mysterious Game Remains Under Wraps

                              Originally posted by aholbert32
                              There are tons of people who complain about the same issues with the Show.
                              i didnt say the game was flawless

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                              • sportyguyfl31
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 4745

                                #855
                                Re: Joe Montana Football 16: A Mysterious Game Remains Under Wraps

                                The wheels on the bus go round and round....

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