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  • Datninja619
    MVP
    • Jul 2012
    • 1918

    #76
    Re: More Madden NFL 16 Gameplay Videos

    Originally posted by boxboy99
    All I want to know is can you do a Draft Champions with friends? Or is it only randoms online?

    I'd like to know too.

    I just watched a video where it displayed the DC menu. I saw "Play Game" in the menu, but nothing like invite friend/play online or anything like that. Could be that they had to crop that out due to restrictions? Makes me wonder if there is another menu or it's just the E3 build, because a few commentators said you can do solo challenges vs CPU. I didn't see that option in the menu's I saw though.

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    • mrprice33
      Just some guy
      • Jul 2003
      • 5986

      #77
      Re: More Madden NFL 16 Gameplay Videos

      Originally posted by Datninja619
      I'd like to know too.

      I just watched a video where it displayed the DC menu. I saw "Play Game" in the menu, but nothing like invite friend/play online or anything like that. Could be that they had to crop that out due to restrictions? Makes me wonder if there is another menu or it's just the E3 build, because a few commentators said you can do solo challenges vs CPU. I didn't see that option in the menu's I saw though.
      I believe you can do a H2H Draft Champs. I don't have a source for this.

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      • jpdavis82
        All Star
        • Sep 2005
        • 8795

        #78
        Re: More Madden NFL 16 Gameplay Videos

        Originally posted by mrprice33
        I believe you can do a H2H Draft Champs. I don't have a source for this.
        Here you go
        Attached Files

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        • suh90beast
          Rookie
          • Sep 2011
          • 364

          #79
          Re: More Madden NFL 16 Gameplay Videos

          Does anyone know how H2H draft champs actually works?

          Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk

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          • mrprice33
            Just some guy
            • Jul 2003
            • 5986

            #80
            Re: More Madden NFL 16 Gameplay Videos

            Originally posted by suh90beast
            Does anyone know how H2H draft champs actually works?

            Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk
            You and your friend draft together, then play.

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            • BleedGreen710
              Eagles Fan
              • Oct 2012
              • 4025

              #81
              Re: More Madden NFL 16 Gameplay Videos

              Originally posted by mrprice33
              You and your friend draft together, then play.
              from what i've read you play head to head against people online, not with friends

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              • jpdavis82
                All Star
                • Sep 2005
                • 8795

                #82
                Re: More Madden NFL 16 Gameplay Videos

                Originally posted by BleedGreen710
                from what i've read you play head to head against people online, not with friends
                You play your friends online, like most online multiplayer games

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                • mestevo
                  Gooney Goo Goo
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 19556

                  #83
                  Re: More Madden NFL 16 Gameplay Videos

                  That could have been a fun CFM variant. Abbreviated seasons using the new draft mode. 4-6 games and/or or a tournament. Maybe some keeper rules, then redraft and go again.

                  For some reason I thought it was more than a 'play now' feature.

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                  • mrprice33
                    Just some guy
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 5986

                    #84
                    Re: More Madden NFL 16 Gameplay Videos

                    Originally posted by mestevo
                    That could have been a fun CFM variant. Abbreviated seasons using the new draft mode. 4-6 games and/or or a tournament. Maybe some keeper rules, then redraft and go again.

                    For some reason I thought it was more than a 'play now' feature.
                    AFAIK there's some really cool friend options with Draft Champs. Might be something like what you're talking here.

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                    • dkp23
                      Rookie
                      • May 2008
                      • 289

                      #85
                      Re: More Madden NFL 16 Gameplay Videos

                      So watching these videos looking for gang tackles since people were syaing they were in the game when i said i didn tsee any.

                      Watched the pats game and the browns game and those vids did have some instances of gang tackling, but from what i am seeing, they are canned animations and does not impact the play at all.

                      Still, i see defenders releasing before another defender hitting instead of holding on while the other cleans it up. I saw an instance in the pats game where the runner had a defender on him and another coming in to "clean" up and just rubbed off on him and fell to the ground like how it is now. It was like 8:20 in the video.

                      Doesnt seem the gang tackling impacts anything once the first defender touches the defender and the only way the 2nd defender impacts the play is if the 1st defender lets go creating a pin ball effect.

                      I've read people saying the gang tackling looks good and all that, but to me, correct if i am wrong or seeing something totally off, these animations are canned and doesnt look like it impacts the play at all.

                      I guess technically, they did get gang tackling in the game.

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                      • jpdavis82
                        All Star
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 8795

                        #86
                        Re: More Madden NFL 16 Gameplay Videos

                        Originally posted by dkp23
                        So watching these videos looking for gang tackles since people were syaing they were in the game when i said i didn tsee any.

                        Watched the pats game and the browns game and those vids did have some instances of gang tackling, but from what i am seeing, they are canned animations and does not impact the play at all.

                        Still, i see defenders releasing before another defender hitting instead of holding on while the other cleans it up. I saw an instance in the pats game where the runner had a defender on him and another coming in to "clean" up and just rubbed off on him and fell to the ground like how it is now. It was like 8:20 in the video.

                        Doesnt seem the gang tackling impacts anything once the first defender touches the defender and the only way the 2nd defender impacts the play is if the 1st defender lets go creating a pin ball effect.

                        I've read people saying the gang tackling looks good and all that, but to me, correct if i am wrong or seeing something totally off, these animations are canned and doesnt look like it impacts the play at all.

                        I guess technically, they did get gang tackling in the game.
                        True gang tackling is in the game, I think it was the chiefs giants video that showed a pretty good example at the beginning of the video. Like Shop and Madscientist, Sim, Smitty, Azure, and myself all said tonight on the GC radio show, watching these videos does not do the game justice and you won't see everything in these short Youtube clips, have to play hours to see things. I played 35 hours and was still seeing new stuff in the last hour I played.

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                        • strawberryshortcake
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 2438

                          #87
                          Re: More Madden NFL 16 Gameplay Videos

                          Originally posted by jpdavis82
                          True gang tackling is in the game, I think it was the chiefs giants video that showed a pretty good example at the beginning of the video. Like Shop and Madscientist, Sim, Smitty, Azure, and myself all said tonight on the GC radio show, watching these videos does not do the game justice and you won't see everything in these short Youtube clips, have to play hours to see things. I played 35 hours and was still seeing new stuff in the last hour I played.
                          I will disagree here. True gang tackling is still only a work in progress. If you only refer to the 1st/2nd defender, fine. But when you involve a 3rd/4th defender/tackler, gang tackling is unfortunately notpresent.

                          It's still noticeably a cosmetic band aid effect. It definitely looks aesthetically better than past Maddens', but if you closely examine when gang tackling happens involving 3 and 4 defenders, the 3rd and 4th defender doesn't make a "physics based" impact on the play.

                          It may visually look like there is some type of impact, but the band aid effect is present because the type of animation coded to play out by the 3rd and 4th defender is to dive at the feets/calves of pile (wrapped up 1st/2nd tackler and ball carrier). However, there is no physical physics based impact on the pile when the 3rd/4th defender hits the pile.

                          @8:40 - 8:46 mark in the video below just a one example... 3rd/4th defender makes no physical physics based impact.


                          Originally posted by strawberryshortcake
                          (Already posted in the first post)

                          Pats Falcons Full Game Draft Champions

                          @6:28 - 6:36 Loving the sequence here ...
                          where it appears each tackling defender has an impact on the running back. You can see the running back stumble just a little bit with each defender making contact. Need to see more of this. There is not enough of this.

                          However, there are still "gang" tackle that happens that are simply cosmetic only where the second and third defender doesn't truly make an impact that physically alters the ball carrier.

                          @8:40 - 8:46 mark. Example Hating the "cosmetic, no impact" sequence here
                          Falcons #55 and #26 goes after the ball carriers leg, and neither of them affects the ball carrier.


                          @6:33 mark
                          I even love the "pissed" off falcons throwing #25 patriots blocker away in disgust. However, what I don't like is the "warping" that happens (6:33 mark) where #25 warps into a blocking position.

                          Loving the close up camera angel shot of #25 getting up (6:38 - 6:42). Very fluid looking. Still would like to see the play selection screen not cover so much of the screen up.

                          Please slow down the audible signal by the quarterback. It's too lighting quick.

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                          • jpdavis82
                            All Star
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 8795

                            #88
                            Re: More Madden NFL 16 Gameplay Videos

                            Originally posted by strawberryshortcake
                            I will disagree here. True gang tackling is still only a work in progress. If you only refer to the 1st/2nd defender, fine. But when you involve a 3rd/4th defender/tackler, gang tackling is unfortunately notpresent.

                            It's still noticeably a cosmetic band aid effect. It definitely looks aesthetically better than past Maddens', but if you closely examine when gang tackling happens involving 3 and 4 defenders, the 3rd and 4th defender doesn't make a "physics based" impact on the play.

                            It may visually look like there is some type of impact, but the band aid effect is present because the type of animation coded to play out by the 3rd and 4th defender is to dive at the feets/calves of pile (wrapped up 1st/2nd tackler and ball carrier). However, there is no physical physics based impact on the pile when the 3rd/4th defender hits the pile.

                            @8:40 - 8:46 mark in the video below just a one example... 3rd/4th defender makes no physical physics based impact.
                            Have you seen a play where the 5th and 6th defender is involved? You can't make a blanket statement about gang tackling based on these videos. I'm telling you that true gang tackling is in the game, I've seen it, several times and in many different ways. You have to play the game to see some of this stuff, the way gang tackling works is two fold, it's part animation and part organic, but there are things I promise you that you haven't seen in terms of gang tackling like I have.

                            Watch this Chiefs and Giants video, around 1:21,the first two defenders wrap up the ball carrier, the 3rd and 4th defenders help bring him down and one of them dives at him and he falls forward based on that impact.

                            Last edited by jpdavis82; 06-23-2015, 11:08 PM.

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                            • strawberryshortcake
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 2438

                              #89
                              Re: More Madden NFL 16 Gameplay Videos

                              Originally posted by jpdavis82
                              Have you seen a play where the 5th and 6th defender is involved? You can't make a blanket statement about gang tackling based on these videos. I'm telling you that true gang tackling is in the game, I've seen it, several times and in many different ways. You have to play the game to see some of this stuff, the way gang tackling works is two fold, it's part animation and part organic, but there are things I promise you that you haven't seen in terms of gang tackling like I have.

                              Watch this Chiefs and Giants video, the first two defenders wrap up the ball carrier, the 3rd and 4th defenders help bring him down and one of them dives at his knee and he falls based on that impact.

                              http://youtu.be/bIarYCXlODQ

                              Please present more than one example if possible. Because the first thing I do when the year rolls around is specifically look at gang tackling and whether a 3rd/4th defender actually makes a physics based impact tackling effect. Second thing on my list is the OL/DL interactions.

                              I have seen that 'gang tackle' in the Giants/Chiefs game multiple times, it's still suspect. Because had the 3rd and 4th defender not come into the picture, I believe the same tackling motion from beginning to end would have play out.

                              In the video above that I present at the 8:40 - 8:46 mark, why was "gang tackling" not present with respect to physics. The 3rd/4th defender made no impact on the play when they dove at the ball carriers lower legs. It was simply cosmetic. The ball carrier eventually fell forward and was awarded a touchdown. Had the 3rd/4th defender made a physics based tackle the ball carrier would have been stopped short of the goal line.

                              Please note: I have seen some pretty nice and absolutely gorgeous 1st and 2nd defender tackling but from all the videos I have seen, true gang tackling where the 3rd and 4th defender has a real physics based impact that alters the trajectory of the initial pile doesn't truly compute.

                              Let me reiterate, the gang tackling cosmetically looks better than prior Maddens, but it's still not where it needs to be.
                              Last edited by strawberryshortcake; 06-23-2015, 11:20 PM.
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                              • jpdavis82
                                All Star
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 8795

                                #90
                                Re: More Madden NFL 16 Gameplay Videos

                                Originally posted by strawberryshortcake
                                Please present more than one example if possible. Because the first thing I do when the year rolls around is specifically look at gang tackling and whether a 3rd/4th defender actually makes a physics based impact tackling effect. Second thing on my list is the OL/DL interactions.

                                I have seen that 'gang tackle' in the Giants/Chiefs game multiple times, it's still suspect.

                                In the video above that I present at the 8:40 - 8:46 mark, why was "gang tackling" not present with respect to physics. The 3rd/4th defender made no impact on the play when they dove at the ball carriers lower legs. It was simply cosmetic. The ball carrier eventually fell forward and was awarded a touchdown. Had the 3rd/4th defender made a physics based tackle the ball carrier would have been stopped short of the goal line.

                                Please note: I have seen some pretty nice and absolutely gorgeous 1st and 2nd defender tackling but from all the videos I have seen, true gang tackling where the 3rd and 4th defender has a real physics based impact that alters the trajectory of the initial pile doesn't truly compute.
                                I can't provide examples because I wasn't recording when I played Madden 16, but I've got 35+ hours in with the game, there's a lot of stuff that isn't in these E3 videos.

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