NBA Live 16 Screenshots - Jimmy Butler

[Vic Viper]

Re: NBA Live 16 Screenshots - Jimmy Butler

It looks good no doubt about that. However something with nba lives player models that still looks cartoonish to me I can't understand why, but it does. It's the same thing with Madden. I guess it just boils down to ones preference.

Can you please elaborate on what looks cartoonish? The comparison pics are great and resembles their real life counterpart. I'm just trying to see what you see.

[iLLWiLL]

Re: NBA Live 16 Screenshots - Jimmy Butler

It looks good no doubt about that. However something with nba lives player models that still looks cartoonish to me I can't understand why, but it does. It's the same thing with Madden. I guess it just boils down to ones preference.

Man, if you think this looks cartoonish, I wonder what you think of the other game's player models?

[WMoore75]

One Really Small Thing That Irks Me About NBA Live Is The Fact That On The Bench There's Only The Head Coach And The Players...It Just Makes That Area Look So Empty!

[WMoore75]

Also LeBron Looks Funny In 2K and Live...His Eyebrows Are Always Off!

[PRAY IV M3RCY]

Re: NBA Live 16 Screenshots - Jimmy Butler

Man, if you think this looks cartoonish, I wonder what you think of the other game's player models?

I think the competition brings more life like player models. Can't wait to see what they can do with body scanning.

[PRAY IV M3RCY]

Re: NBA Live 16 Screenshots - Jimmy Butler

Can you please elaborate on what looks cartoonish? The comparison pics are great and resembles their real life counterpart. I'm just trying to see what you see.

IMO the faces and skin textures look amazing. However when I see the entire body the way the jersey fits in the back looks off as if the jersey shrunk in the back, I'm seeing way too much of the back of the armpits and traps. Seems as though the waist area is a bit too narrow. And also the way the jersey fits around the chest seems off. It's like everybody has a V shaped body.

[WISports]

Re: NBA Live 16 Screenshots - Jimmy Butler

I'm a 2K guy, but as far as purely screen shots go, these Butler pics look better than any 2K pic I've seen. Obviously, when you see it in motion that's another story.


Live definitely beats 2K in the lighting department, and it isn't that close. Hopefully 2K improves on that this year.

[iLLWiLL]

Re: NBA Live 16 Screenshots - Jimmy Butler

I think the competition brings more life like player models. Can't wait to see what they can do with body scanning.

Me too. I expect good things from 2K. But if they fail to improve, then people need to get on them the way they got on EA with Madden -- resting on their laurels.

[Luke Skywalker]

How are NBA players allowed to get tattoos and NFL (Madden) isn't?

[benefactor]

Re: NBA Live 16 Screenshots - Jimmy Butler

Firstly, some of you guys must not have played Live 15... bench players already had warmups on during games last year.

Anyway, some comparisons with last year. Skin tones are great this year but I still suspect these Butler pics have had the contrast turned up post game...

[strawberryshortcake]

Re: NBA Live 16 Screenshots - Jimmy Butler

I'm a 2K guy, but as far as purely screen shots go, these Butler pics look better than any 2K pic I've seen. Obviously, when you see it in motion that's another story.

Live definitely beats 2K in the lighting department, and it isn't that close. Hopefully 2K improves on that this year.

Can you really say for certain that Live's 16 Butler pic is better than anything 2k has ever put out. Look at some of the pictures from 2k15 below (durant, harden, wall)

However, arena lighting is definitely better in Live as you can see from the pictures below. But as far as skin texture and skin tone and skin color palette, especially in screen captures as seen below (Kevin Durant) compared to youtube videos and Jimmy Butler's skin tone, the competitor has a more realistic approach. However, when looking at gameplay screen capture when everything is far away, Live16 and the competitor's 15 looks very similar. But close up shots, the competitor has a more realistic natural skin tone and color palette.



Live 16 - better floor reflections, better hardwood floor details


Real NBA Live footage


Competitor 15

these comparison screens are definitely what needs to be shown, because nba lives skin textures and skin tones look much more lifelike than the competitor.. we just have to see it in motion

I will have to kindly disagree with that statement regarding NBA live having better skin tones than the competitor. It really depends on the lighting of the room. Ambient and indoor lighting plays a part. Even if you look at your own skin texture at the moment, it's no where as vibrant and as saturated as that seen in some of the Live 16s screen captures.

Even if you watch Jimmy Butler's video and real live game footage, the skin tone color palette is not as drastically "up-contrasted."

Below are some competitor's screen capture from 15. Compare Kevin Durant Live 15 to the other game's Kevin Durant and compare the skin tone to the Kevin Durant's interview skin tone. The competitor's game has the skin tone much more subtle and soft as seen in real life where Live 15 has the skin tone's contrast turned up it seems.

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Compare the above two pictures including the spoiler pictures of James Harden and John Wall to the below Kevin Durant's interview real skin tone/color palette.

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I will say this though. EA's UFC game has very realistic lighting and skin texture:

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It looks good no doubt about that. However something with nba lives player models that still looks cartoonish to me I can't understand why, but it does. It's the same thing with Madden. I guess it just boils down to ones preference.

That will agree with. EA "engine" or whatever is called and how they 'build' their player models and animation system has that characteristic look to it.

Can you please elaborate on what looks cartoonish? The comparison pics are great and resembles their real life counterpart. I'm just trying to see what you see.

Man, if you think this looks cartoonish, I wonder what you think of the other game's player models?

I think the competition brings more life like player models. Can't wait to see what they can do with body scanning.

That I will agree with. There is more "life" to the competitor's player models. Something about their engine.

[benefactor]

Re: NBA Live 16 Screenshots - Jimmy Butler

I think 'life' is the last word I'd use to describe 2Ks visuals.

There's nothing wrong with having a preference though, just don't take up the whole page with comparisons in a Live forum.

[strawberryshortcake]

Re: NBA Live 16 Screenshots - Jimmy Butler

I think 'life' is the last word I'd use to describe 2Ks visuals.

There's nothing wrong with having a preference though, just don't take up the whole page with comparisons in a Live forum.

It's not a preference. I'm analyzing visual evidence to come up with an educated visual answer. If you don't want a comparison with the other game, completely disregard the 'other game' in my post above and just focus on the skin tone and color palette for Live16 screenshots with that of real life videos I presented or ones you can find on youtube.

Using visual evidence is better than simply some saying it with words. A picture is worth a thousand words.

The sames goes when it comes to analyzing gameplay. Disregard any other game and compare it to real life footage.

[PVarck31]

Re: NBA Live 16 Screenshots - Jimmy Butler

This isn't a Live/2K comparison thread. Keep it about Live please.

[strawberryshortcake]

Re: NBA Live 16 Screenshots - Jimmy Butler

This isn't a Live/2K comparison thread. Keep it about Live please.

Fine. Let's put it this way. I had the impression that constructive comparison was acceptable. Plus, many before made mentions to the other game.

If not, we'll just stick with Live16 and real life footage.

For those still following this thread, compare Live16's Durant skin tone color palette in the screenshot to Kevin Durant's skin tone in the above Kevin Durant interview. Live16 Durant has a more 'high saturated' color palette, a little bit more orange hue to it, somewhat.

The same goes with Live16 Jimmy Butler. Live15 Jimmy Butler, just skin tone/color palette seems to better resemble what I've seen in the youtube video of Jimmy Butler.

The problem, however, these Live16 screenshots don't resemble quite what we see in game footage (E3 demo Live16). The demo has a softer more realistic tone/color palette, which is a good thing because it's more representative of real life.