NBA 2K16 Video - Steph Curry with Mouth Guard - "Beyond the Shadows" Video on Monday

[Dmanning2]

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No its not so, as crazy as the teeth comment was its on topic is my point, in which he was wrong because there was a side by side that showed the teeth were indeed scanned.

2k went to that much detail!?

Too bad the original guy we were talking about wasn't giving props to 2k about having teeth. Instead he was complaining that Curry chipped tooth wasn't scanned into the game.

How could someone nitpicking that bad about visuals for a basketball game & can't congratulate 2k on the things they got right based off screenshots the game looks amazing.

[strawberryshortcake]

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Regarding the bold, I was watching the demo of Crackdown 3 and its physics. I gotta say, if that works how it's supposed to and Sony adopts the cloud gaming thing as well, we could legit see realtime physics in sports games. I can only imagine all 10 guys on the floor having their actual weight etc. determine how they move around the floor. Physical contact would finally be realistic, no more clipping, etc.

Just looked it up. Thanks. But which Crackdown 3 demo video? Do you have a link.

Are you sure about that though? Because from what I can see in these quick time stamps below, is that proper footplanting that connects the player to the ground is still far from ideal. Notice how the characters foot slips and slides as he shoots his gun. No way does a real live person slides his foot like so.

If physics was truly present, the ricochet of firing the gun would propel that Crackdown 3 character to move back because his foot was essentially sliding all over the place when he fired.

When I'm talking about real footplanting, I'm literally talking about absolutely no 'motion shifting' by the foot whatsoever, not 1 centimeter, not 1 microcenter at all. If you want the character to move in a certain direction, I want to see the foot actually push off the ground (without absolutely any microscopic motion shifting of the foot whatsoever) and propel the person in the desired direction.

This the first thing I check for in NBA2k and any other sports game is real footplanting, especially on the defensive side.

Crackdown 3 demo (1:10) and (1:18 - 1:24). I see a lot of these type of fictitious "footplanting" visible for NBA 2k defensive players. Something is simply not translating properly from the motion capture sessions to NBA2k video game, or your other sports games.



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[Dmanning2]

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If you want to get bent out of shape about things you can only see in instant replay zoomed all the way in. That's on you.

I hoped they fixed defensive, servers, basketballs going through defenders bodyparts. Rebounding/boxing out has been broken since what 2k6? A decade ago..

[sead94]

dooope. only thing that kinda bothered me was his pink skin.

Cudos to 2K for the hard worked done, but the skin tone is off, kinda ruining the WOW effect. Plus, as experienced in the years past, graphic details will not grant love for the game if the gameplay is off (like it was in many areas in 2k15).

[23]

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Too bad the original guy we were talking about wasn't giving props to 2k about having teeth. Instead he was complaining that Curry chipped tooth wasn't scanned into the game.

How could someone nitpicking that bad about visuals for a basketball game & can't congratulate 2k on the things they got right based off screenshots the game looks amazing.

I agree and thats why i pointed out that it was there. Either way that was a huge ridiculous nitpick and why i cant wait til they move on from this stage.

[WISports]

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What I was saying was that in the game, they gave him a chipped tooth. When in fact, he doesn't have a chipped tooth in real life. Unless it happened recently. But if you go to google images, you can see his tooth isn't chipped.

[23]

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What I was saying was that in the game, they gave him a chipped tooth. When in fact, he doesn't have a chipped tooth in real life. Unless it happened recently. But if you go to google images, you can see his tooth isn't chipped.

There is an image with a tooth chipped or worn down on the lefts side. Maybe from chewing mouth pieces....but its definitely there,they didnt give him anything

[MoneyOvaHuds]

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[WISports]

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There is an image with a tooth chipped or worn down on the lefts side. Maybe from chewing mouth pieces....but its definitely there,they didnt give him anything

I'll take your word for it if you say you saw a pic of him with a chipped tooth. But if you look at recent pics of him...like holding his MVP trophy...there is no chip. So are they going off an old photo?


Either way, the tooth thing honestly doesn't bother me. I just find it strange if they did randomly put a chip in it (and didn't give him the small gap). I mean, if they're going for realism, why wouldn't they make his teeth correct, ya know? Would it really require that much more work? Nah.


As of now, from what we've seen, the lighting is really the only thing that really irks me. That is until they release more pics and we find out the body scanning is a total gimmick.

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I'll take your word for it if you say you saw a pic of him with a chipped tooth. But if you look at recent pics of him...like holding his MVP trophy...there is no chip. So are they going off an old photo?


Either way, the tooth thing honestly doesn't bother me. I just find it strange if they did randomly put a chip in it (and didn't give him the small gap). I mean, if they're going for realism, why wouldn't they make his teeth correct, ya know? Would it really require that much more work? Nah.


As of now, from what we've seen, the lighting is really the only thing that really irks me. That is until they release more pics and we find out the body scanning is a total gimmick.

Yep, its post #49 in this thread, and there is front teeth separation, but since its scanned it doesn't show as prominitley

I cannot believe you are even worried about this man..this convo is crazy

[WISports]

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I'm not "worried" about it by no means.


But even if someone is, it doesn't matter to me. If tiny things like that matter to them, who am I to tell them what should and shouldn't bother them.


Just like in the other thread, you saying the lighting bothers you, and others thinking you (and us others) are nuts.

[AceDawg5]

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There's definitely some OCD going on here. But, as someone said earlier it's both good and bad. That's how critical I am when it comes to shoes and atmosphere. I know 23 agrees with me on the shoe thing. Hard to think 1 tooth is an issue, but OS is a mixture of fanatics. In the end hopefully we all get what we want, a great gaming experience. Not sure about everyone else but I sold 2k15 3 months ago because it simply had zero replay value to me and I'm not sure why. 1st time I've ever done that, normally I play from release day to the next and trade old for new. With visuals and small details like this I'm hopefull I can play this 1 all year.

[iLLWiLL]

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Teeth aren't a major deal to me. Neither is ankle braces or any other equipment accessory being slightly off.

But I do care about lighting. And again, many people here view it very short-sighted, it's not just about making things brighter. To me it brings out the graphic details and most importantly, brings everything closer to a TV broadcast level. I mean, isn't that everyone's goal here in terms of graphics? To immerse us into the game such that we feel we are actually controlling the players in a real life broadcasted game? Something so real that we forget we're actually looking at a videogame? It is for me. And of course it's not a deal-breaker if the graphics aren't there yet. But I do think sports game should be, and already are working to that level of realism. Hence, why some of us appear to be nitpicking this type of stuff. It has nothing to do with not appreciating what we have.

[MikeGSW]

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If you want to get bent out of shape about things you can only see in instant replay zoomed all the way in. That's on you.

I hoped they fixed defensive, servers, basketballs going through defenders bodyparts. Rebounding/boxing out has been broken since what 2k6? A decade ago..

Preach!

[lakers24]

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Just looked it up. Thanks. But which Crackdown 3 demo video? Do you have a link.

Are you sure about that though? Because from what I can see in these quick time stamps below, is that proper footplanting that connects the player to the ground is still far from ideal. Notice how the characters foot slips and slides as he shoots his gun. No way does a real live person slides his foot like so.

If physics was truly present, the ricochet of firing the gun would propel that Crackdown 3 character to move back because his foot was essentially sliding all over the place when he fired.

When I'm talking about real footplanting, I'm literally talking about absolutely no 'motion shifting' by the foot whatsoever, not 1 centimeter, not 1 microcenter at all. If you want the character to move in a certain direction, I want to see the foot actually push off the ground (without absolutely any microscopic motion shifting of the foot whatsoever) and propel the person in the desired direction.

This the first thing I check for in NBA2k and any other sports game is real footplanting, especially on the defensive side.

Crackdown 3 demo (1:10) and (1:18 - 1:24). I see a lot of these type of fictitious "footplanting" visible for NBA 2k defensive players. Something is simply not translating properly from the motion capture sessions to NBA2k video game, or your other sports games.

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It was an IGN stage demo and I'm not referring to the actual character in Crackdown but the system they are using to allow the player to destroy the entire city. Every building is destructible and each physical piece of destruction in the world is tangible. Obviously that isn't possible on systems alone because of the computing power needed so they are using cloud servers to account for the extra juice needed. Each particular section of the city is tied to an individual server and it's even so detailed that if a piece from one building crosses into another servers section it becomes a part of that server instantaneously.
Now obviously 2k (or pretty much any sports game) wouldn't need THAT much computing power, but you get the idea. Being able to use the cloud for extra computing power would remove those restrictions for physics and A.I.