PES 2016 Demo Available Now on Xbox One and PlayStation 4

[p_rushing]

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yeah definitely think the short game time is effecting my play style, having to press forward and push the attack faster ... even as Brazil at -1 game speed, I feel like I need to press against 1 of the 2 lower ranked teams

[strawberryshortcake]

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If people are having too much ease passing ball turn everything to manual. Makes everything more challenging. My current set up is (Superstar, -1 Speed, Manual Shooting, Unassisted Passing)

My only other complaint with the game other than the lack of fouls is the button press power bar. Last year a light touch of the pass button when give you a light touch in space. This year it seems you have to press the button harder for a light touch on the ball. It doesn't feel as intuitive to me.

Where would one change it to "Manual Shooting" and "Unassisted Passing." Can't find it.

And will it also change the way the CPU plays?

[LingeringRegime]

PES 2016 Demo Available Now on Xbox One and PlayStation 4

Where would one change it to "Manual Shooting" and "Unassisted Passing." Can't find it.

And will it also change the way the CPU plays?

Hit square when you choose whether to play home or away. The screen where the controller image is.

No it won't change the way the CPU plays.


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[strawberryshortcake]

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Hit square when you choose whether to play home or away. The screen where the controller image is.

No it won't change the way the CPU plays.


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Thanks a billion.

Now manual and unassisted definitely presents more of a challenge. Not only that, but now it looks much more organic and natural. This has restored my faith in the game. Initially, it was on my definite to buy list. Then playing the demo more and more, the pin point accurate passes started to make me dislike the game. This new found unassisted passing makes the game more organic and natural.

This game is back on my radar.

The only "concern/issue" unfortunately is that you can't do the same for the CPU. If only the same can be done for the CPU.

[roolz]

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Thanks a billion.

Now manual and unassisted definitely presents more of a challenge. Not only that, but now it looks much more organic and natural. This has restored my faith in the game. Initially, it was on my definite to buy list. Then playing the demo more and more, the pin point accurate passes started to make me dislike the game. This new found unassisted passing makes the game more organic and natural.

This game is back on my radar.

The only "concern/issue" unfortunately is that you can't do the same for the CPU. If only the same can be done for the CPU.

Remember with the demo you have a tiny sample size of teams, OK the accuracy isnt going to change dramatically (and nor should it, a professional footballer should be able to pick out a pass), however you will get more variety in stats/ability and as such have a bit more variation.

How great, I cant tell... but it should show up more, as right now you are playing with top tier teams from their respective nation.

[strawberryshortcake]

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Remember with the demo you have a tiny sample size of teams, OK the accuracy isnt going to change dramatically (and nor should it, a professional footballer should be able to pick out a pass), however you will get more variety in stats/ability and as such have a bit more variation.

How great, I cant tell... but it should show up more, as right now you are playing with top tier teams from their respective nation.

It's more than just about them be professionals. It's about the overall organic look of the passes and receiving passes. The way Konami has the ball and foot interact on receiving passes doesn't have an organic, natural mannerism. The ball appears to simply magnetized to the receivers' foot. The way they have it setup is fine for passes here and there but it shouldn't be 95% of the time. The ball should be a little bit more loose, and not automatic.

[Stormyhog]

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Setup a nice header for a goal. This was on superstar difficulty. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/LXIckMMW7t4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[fearwhatnow]

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Setup a nice header for a goal. This was on superstar difficulty. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/LXIckMMW7t4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Nice header but the whole cpu defense has collapsed because of the non existent AI coding.
- First pass: You easily succeed at pivoting the cpu marker.
- Cpu AI RW moves a bit in without a reason leaving your LW player alone for a cross.
- You have 2 players inside the box. One is marked the other is again alone without a reason.
- The cpu defender walks (!!!!) to mark your player and ofc he never reaches. Then we see a header animation (wtf) of the same cpu player 2 metres away from the goal scorer.
- Cpu Gk dives in slow motion. (That's already a flaw from last year's game)

Sorry for the somewhat harsh criticism but I can't overlook all these problems as I'm not a casual sports videogames player.

[roolz]

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It's more than just about them be professionals. It's about the overall organic look of the passes and receiving passes. The way Konami has the ball and foot interact on receiving passes doesn't have an organic, natural mannerism. The ball appears to simply magnetized to the receivers' foot. The way they have it setup is fine for passes here and there but it shouldn't be 95% of the time. The ball should be a little bit more loose, and not automatic.

I agree that controlling the ball should be a little more organic, more mis-controls especially on passes that are zipped in. I wouldnt say it was magnetic as the ball reacts fine, its just that the players (whether its stat based or coded) all in general are immaculate at controlling the football.

A test in the full game would be to knock players ball control stat down to 1, and then start pinging footballs at him, see how he reacts, how he moves it about. IF its the same as how we see it now in the demo, then its obviously a game 'flaw' and the control stat means little, OR it could show him having issues and the ball bouncing off his feet, or him being clumsy at moving it.. idk.

[Stormyhog]

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Nice header but the whole cpu defense has collapsed because of the non existent AI coding.
- First pass: You easily succeed at pivoting the cpu marker.
- Cpu AI RW moves a bit in without a reason leaving your LW player alone for a cross.
- You have 2 players inside the box. One is marked the other is again alone without a reason.
- The cpu defender walks (!!!!) to mark your player and ofc he never reaches. Then we see a header animation (wtf) of the same cpu player 2 metres away from the goal scorer.
- Cpu Gk dives in slow motion. (That's already a flaw from last year's game)

Sorry for the somewhat harsh criticism but I can't overlook all these problems as I'm not a casual sports videogames player.

Oh no not at all as I have issues with the game as well. I really hate the slow, half hearted, fall over dive attempts by the goalies. Also angled in the box shot's always seem to beat the keepers because of this problem. Not a fan of the physicality feels like you have to wait for animations to play out. The non existent fouls & penalties especially by the cpu. The ping pong pinpoint passes by the cpu drives me nut's & look's unrealistic. I know it's a demo but it can't be far off from what we're getting at launch. Like you I'm more than a casual player & critical of things I see that are off putting.

[KG]

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Nice header but the whole cpu defense has collapsed because of the non existent AI coding.
- First pass: You easily succeed at pivoting the cpu marker.
- Cpu AI RW moves a bit in without a reason leaving your LW player alone for a cross.
- You have 2 players inside the box. One is marked the other is again alone without a reason.
- The cpu defender walks (!!!!) to mark your player and ofc he never reaches. Then we see a header animation (wtf) of the same cpu player 2 metres away from the goal scorer.
- Cpu Gk dives in slow motion. (That's already a flaw from last year's game)

Sorry for the somewhat harsh criticism but I can't overlook all these problems as I'm not a casual sports videogames player.

The RW moved in to close down on Schweinsteger. Yeah he probably should have stayed with the overlap but it wasn't like he just stood still.

That keeper didn't dive in slow motion.

The only issue I see with that play is the marking inside the box, like you pointed out. He walked to close down instead of doing everything he could to get in front of the Bayern player making the run.

[roolz]

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The RW moved in to close down on Schweinsteger. Yeah he probably should have stayed with the overlap but it wasn't like he just stood still.

That keeper didn't dive in slow motion.

The only issue I see with that play is the marking inside the box, like you pointed out. He walked to close down instead of doing everything he could to get in front of the Bayern player making the run.

Agree. The bloke on the right had a choice, either go to the ball and make the player make a decision, or leave a gap for hm and follow the runner.... now you watch or play the game, if you are in that position you close the ball down, its a gamble but you put the player in possession under pressure as thats were a mistake can happen... if you back off and take the runner, you then leave that player with the ball a host of choices to make and essentially then ask probably a centre half in that situation, to come out and leave a gap behind him.

I cant fault the AI there, that scenario happens up and down the country from parks to Old Trafford.

Keeper made a good effort at the ball, dont see fault with that.. it was a solid placed header.

The defending in the box could have been better, but then do you want that to be perfect all the time? People dont like precision passing, what about if every cross saw players tightly marked? Does that happen in football IRL? All defenders are tight every cross? Of course not... now ive played the game enough to know that on Top Player/Superstar, you dont just get free headers and believe me, im crap at the game, im old, dont have the hands But the crossing and battles from that are some of the best in the game.

i agree totally that wasnt great defending, but its not indicative of the game, if it was... people wouldnt touch it, i can assure you of that... where as in reality, its getting solid feedback about its gameplay.

Maybe the video poster can confirm the difficulty setting, as you do notice a drop off in AI awareness down the levels, theres no shame in that, you play for fun, not to brag 'i can beat Superstar!'

[Stormyhog]

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What bugs me the most in the demo is the goalies how they attempt saves. They seem to slowly fall to one side not really stretching out most times. Also hate when they parry a clearly catchable ball which in turn leads to a goal scoring chance. I still am enjoying the demo overall but there still needs work to be done.

[JimmyDeicide]

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I dont see anything overly wrong in that video. Even if the defender who was slow was quicker to respond he still would have been the wrong side of the defender to do anything other than foul in the box. Which granted wouldnt have been called but we all know that issue.
I think that video and the criticisms about it are way too harsh.

Dont get me wrong the game still has some huge annoyances for me. The biggest one so far is the slowing down of the player you are controlling its still in the game.
There is nothing worse than feeling the game taking away your control just so a certain sequence can play out.
My main example would be when your defending and taking away space, you read the play and try to make a play on the ball only to have the game slow your player so you cant get near to make the play you worked so hard for.
Its hard enough to get possession back from Bayern as it is and infuriating when the game games you like that.

The other thing would be the defenders not reacting properly they dont show the urgency still in the correct situations. Like KG says they should be doing everything they can to make a play on the ball not back away or run along side.
If they could just fix that one issue i'd be all over this game but it is still a big one for me when it comes to longevity( the more you play it the worse it seems and just grinds me down ).

I'm ok with the passing in the big picture, sure its not perfect but its far from a game killer. Bayern had 85% passing today against Hoffenheim.
On the top levels yeah the cpu is a little too perfect in all aspects of the game but its really enjoyable to play against still i find overall.

I think the problem with fouls is the refs advantage system, its to short right now so when the play breaks down its not called back. It seems to me is its always play on first instead of just blowing the whistle.
I'm buying this game no matter what, there is much more to like than dislike and overall 10 times better than 15 the animations are second to none for me ,just beautiful.
This game is so close right now if they could just fix these few niggles they would have one of those games you never get rid of like NHL 2k3.

[StoneColdSwede]

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Finally scored my first free kick. I'll let you go ahead and guess who you think scored it. Go on, I'll wait.

Alright then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5owo9BMG9eU