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  • zocrates
    Rookie
    • Sep 2013
    • 239
    #1

    Interesting discovery about difficulty level/sliders

    I started testing the game on CPU vs. CPU at all difficulty levels (with default sliders) and with all different difficulty combinations, and the only combination that looks to truly take ratings into account both on offense and defense is Heisman (offense) and Freshman (defense). And of course, it just happens to be the combination that makes absolutely no sense at all.

    Almost every other combination (whether it be Varsity/Varsity, Heisman/All-American, Freshman/Heisman, etc) looked like there was no clear separation between the teams, no matter what the ratings on either side. The closest I saw was Varsity/Varsity, and with that, it just seemed like there was only a separation in offense, but with no difference with defense.

    It's pretty odd that the separation takes place with Heisman/Freshman since you would expect that the offenses would just dominate with zero defense, but for some reason, the game just plays pretty true to ratings when you set all sliders to default on that difficulty. It just goes to show you that the programming of the game is just a little screwy that in order for the game to work on default, you have to set it to Heisman/Freshman.

    The stats aren't perfect by any means, but they're the closest I've seen by far with any combination of difficulty on the default sliders. The only stat that looks to be way off are interceptions, where I haven't seen any in about the 5 games that I've run.

    I'm going to tinker with the sliders a bit for CPU vs. CPU play, but I just wonder if anyone has any interest in using Heisman/Freshman for a HUM vs. CPU slider set to see if the game plays as true to the ratings as it does for CPU vs. CPU. I just wonder if anyone even thought to try this before, because I only tried it out of desperation since no other combination was working for me.

    Here is a box score from the latest game I ran with the default sliders (except for FGA at 35 and 8 min quarters) on Heisman/Freshman:

    <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="6">New Mexico State Aggies at Texas Longhorns</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Jan 1, </td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>New Mexico State Aggies ()</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">14</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td><span style="color:#CC0000;">#15</span> Texas Longhorns ()</td><td align="right">20</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">21</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right" class="active">65</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%"></td><td align="center" width="20%">NMSU</td><td align="center" width="20%">TEX</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">231</td><td align="center">606</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">-4</td><td align="center">411</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">235</td><td align="center">195</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">14</td><td align="center">30</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">0</td><td align="center">95</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">265</td><td align="center">80</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">496</td><td align="center">781</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">0</td><td align="center">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">3-12</td><td align="center">7-11</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">1-1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">3-2-0</td><td align="center">10-7-3</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">10:13</td><td align="center">21:47</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" class="spacer" style="margin:0 auto;" width="575"><tr><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#891216" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">New Mexico State Aggies</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>T. Colwell</td><td align="right">19/34</td><td align="right">235</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>G. Morrison</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right">-1</td><td align="right">-0.1</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>T. Colwell</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">-3</td><td align="right">-0.2</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>A. Franklin</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">81</td><td align="right">16.2</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>J. Matthews</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">50</td><td align="right">16.6</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>P. Scoggins</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">44</td><td align="right">14.6</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>J. Brown</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">9.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>G. Morrison</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">16</td><td align="right">5.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>P. Morehead</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">15</td><td align="right">15.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M. Washington</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">2.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICKING</td><td align="right" width="16%">FG</td><td align="right" width="16%">XP</td><td align="right" width="16%">PTS</td><td align="right" width="16%">LONG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M. Johnson</td><td align="right">0/1</td><td align="right">2/2</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PUNTING</td><td align="right" width="16%">NO</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">IN20</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>C. Chapman Brown</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right">287</td><td align="right">35.8</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></table></td><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#EE7524" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Texas Longhorns</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D. Ash</td><td align="right">19/22</td><td align="right">188</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>C. McCoy</td><td align="right">1/1</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J. Gray</td><td align="right">23</td><td align="right">150</td><td align="right">6.5</td><td align="right">3</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>M. Brown</td><td align="right">16</td><td align="right">141</td><td align="right">8.8</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D. Ash</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">71</td><td align="right">5.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>C. McCoy</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">42</td><td align="right">21.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>C. Jones</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">10.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>J. Bergeron</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">-3</td><td align="right">-3.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>C. Jones</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">58</td><td align="right">11.6</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>M. McFarlane</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">37</td><td align="right">18.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M. Davis</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">36</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>J. Shipley</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">31</td><td align="right">10.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M. Brown</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">9.0</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>M. Johnson</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICKING</td><td align="right" width="16%">FG</td><td align="right" width="16%">XP</td><td align="right" width="16%">PTS</td><td align="right" width="16%">LONG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>A. Fera</td><td align="right">3/3</td><td align="right">8/8</td><td align="right">23</td><td align="right">22</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>

    NMS was sacked 5 times, and Texas only once.

    Remember, this is on default sliders, and I have personally never seen stats this close to real life results with the default sliders. Typically, every CPU vs. CPU game with the default sliders on just about any difficulty level is a shootout with both QBs throwing 300-500 yards, regardless of the QB's rating.

    I ran another game earlier with Lousiville/Ohio that I don't have the box for, but Teddy Bridgewater threw something like 25/35 for 460 yards and 6 TDs, which is actually really close to what he threw in real life. And they held the Ohio QB (who is like 86 OVR) to about 215 yards and no TDs.

    But if anyone wants to give that settings a shot on HUM vs. CPU, I'd like to know if they work any better or worse than Heisman/Heisman. I'd imagine you could just compensate by drastically altering some of the sliders, but it just looks like at its base, this is the only combination of difficulty level that plays to ratings right out of the box.
    Last edited by zocrates; 11-19-2015, 10:24 PM.
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    • Von Dozier
      MVP
      • Apr 2006
      • 2196
      #2
      Re: Interesting discovery about difficulty level/sliders

      Tried this out (CPU vs CPU, me coaching Ball State)

      Tweaks:
      20 threshold, 9 minute quarters (137 plays)

      <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="6">Ball State Cardinals at North Texas Mean Green</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Jan 1, </td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Ball State Cardinals ()</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right" class="active">30</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>North Texas Mean Green ()</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right" class="active">27</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%"></td><td align="center" width="20%">BALL</td><td align="center" width="20%">UNT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">416</td><td align="center">466</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">136</td><td align="center">163</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">280</td><td align="center">303</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">19</td><td align="center">23</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center"></td><td align="center"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center"></td><td align="center"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">580</td><td align="center">514</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">1</td><td align="center">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">7-14</td><td align="center">4-12</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center"></td><td align="center"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center"></td><td align="center"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">4-1-3</td><td align="center">6-3-2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">1-15</td><td align="center">1-15</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">21:02</td><td align="center">14:58</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" class="spacer" style="margin:0 auto;" width="575"><tr><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#DA0000" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Ball State Cardinals</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>K. Wenning (90ovr)</td><td align="right">27/33</td><td align="right">280</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J. Edwards</td><td align="right">21</td><td align="right">100</td><td align="right">4.7</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>K. Wenning</td><td align="right">9</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">1.3</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>H. Banks</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">24</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right"></td></tr></table></td><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#00853D" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">North Texas Mean Green</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B. Berglund (70ovr)</td><td align="right">19/28</td><td align="right">303</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>R. Pegram</td><td align="right">19</td><td align="right">122</td><td align="right">6.4</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>B. Berglund</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0.2</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B. Byrd</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">26</td><td align="right">4.3</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>D. Miller</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">9</td><td align="right">3.0</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D. Terrell</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>C. Harris</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">3.0</td><td align="right"></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>

      First off are you still using the 20 threshold or did you default that too? (I tried your CPU sliders yesterday for the first time and kept it there)

      I felt the 70ovr QB (60 awareness, 70 accuracy) was a bit too dominant for his rating, but besides that, it played really well. I'll get more games in, but besides the QB thing I can't complain about anything so far.

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        • zocrates
          Rookie
          • Sep 2013
          • 239
          #3
          Re: Interesting discovery about difficulty level/sliders

          I kept the threshold at 50, too. I did notice a pretty drastic change when I set the threshold to 20, so that might be what you're seeing.

          I'm also trying to difficulty at Heisman/Varsity with good results, too. In some ways, they're actually better results, and possibly a better starting point for a slider set. I'm seeing interceptions (possible too many) on that setting, and a better running game, but the passing completion percentage is a little higher. The higher comp% might be due to the fact that the QBs don't throw down field much. It's weird how the defense is actually better on Heisman/Varsity than it is on Heisman/Heisman. Or maybe it's just the CPU playcalling that changes. Either way, it's good to see the game actually taking ratings into consideration for once.

          To really test the ratings of a 70 OVR QB, I'd test it against a good defense, btw.

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            • zocrates
              Rookie
              • Sep 2013
              • 239
              #4
              Re: Interesting discovery about difficulty level/sliders

              Here is a game I ran using Heisman/Varsity on CPU vs. CPU (all defaults except 8 min quarters and HFA off):

              <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="6">New Mexico State Aggies at Texas Longhorns</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Jan 1, </td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>New Mexico State Aggies (0-1)</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">13</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td><span style="color:#CC0000;">#15</span> Texas Longhorns (1-0)</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">21</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">42</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%"></td><td align="center" width="20%">NMSU</td><td align="center" width="20%">TEX</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">268</td><td align="center">579</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">75</td><td align="center">327</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">193</td><td align="center">252</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">11</td><td align="center">29</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">56</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">24</td><td align="center">86</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">322</td><td align="center">721</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">1</td><td align="center">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">1-13</td><td align="center">8-14</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">2-4</td><td align="center">1-1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">2-0-1</td><td align="center">8-5-0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">4-42</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">13:38</td><td align="center">18:22</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" class="spacer" style="margin:0 auto;" width="575"><tr><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#891216" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">New Mexico State Aggies</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>T. Colwell</td><td align="right">23/34</td><td align="right">193</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>G. Morrison</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">44</td><td align="right">3.6</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>T. Colwell</td><td align="right">13</td><td align="right">31</td><td align="right">2.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>P. Morehead</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">61</td><td align="right">12.2</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>M. Washington</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">46</td><td align="right">11.5</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>G. Morrison</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">40</td><td align="right">6.6</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>P. Scoggins</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">30</td><td align="right">10.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J. Matthews</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">9</td><td align="right">9.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>A. Franklin</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">3.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B. Betancourt</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICKING</td><td align="right" width="16%">FG</td><td align="right" width="16%">XP</td><td align="right" width="16%">PTS</td><td align="right" width="16%">LONG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M. Johnson</td><td align="right">2/2</td><td align="right">1/1</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">38</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PUNTING</td><td align="right" width="16%">NO</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">IN20</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>C. Chapman Brown</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">258</td><td align="right">43.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></table></td><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#EE7524" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Texas Longhorns</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D. Ash</td><td align="right">27/35</td><td align="right">237</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>C. McCoy</td><td align="right">3/6</td><td align="right">15</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J. Gray</td><td align="right">16</td><td align="right">137</td><td align="right">8.5</td><td align="right">3</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>D. Ash</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">89</td><td align="right">6.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M. Brown</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right">68</td><td align="right">8.5</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>C. Jones</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">19</td><td align="right">19.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J. Bergeron</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">12.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>C. McCoy</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">2.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>C. Jones</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">67</td><td align="right">13.4</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>M. Davis</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">35</td><td align="right">17.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M. Johnson</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">34</td><td align="right">11.3</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>J. Shipley</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">34</td><td align="right">6.8</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M. Brown</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">24</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>J. Gray</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">16</td><td align="right">5.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>K. Sanders</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">15</td><td align="right">5.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>M. McFarland</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">4.6</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>A. De La Torre</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">13</td><td align="right">6.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICKING</td><td align="right" width="16%">FG</td><td align="right" width="16%">XP</td><td align="right" width="16%">PTS</td><td align="right" width="16%">LONG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>A. Fera</td><td align="right">0/2</td><td align="right">6/6</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PUNTING</td><td align="right" width="16%">NO</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">IN20</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>W. Russ</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">118</td><td align="right">39.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>

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                • jp18
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 2031
                  #5
                  Re: Interesting discovery about difficulty level/sliders

                  Well I am a human vs cpu guy and love the set I use but I am going to give this a try. I have tried several combinations in the past but never heisman/freshman seems odd but I am always down for more realism as long as its still a challenge. I'll start by playing as a low level group of 5 team against a far superior team and see how it goes. I hope you have found a little something!

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                    • zocrates
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 239
                      #6
                      Re: Interesting discovery about difficulty level/sliders

                      Originally posted by jp18
                      Well I am a human vs cpu guy and love the set I use but I am going to give this a try. I have tried several combinations in the past but never heisman/freshman seems odd but I am always down for more realism as long as its still a challenge. I'll start by playing as a low level group of 5 team against a far superior team and see how it goes. I hope you have found a little something!
                      Definitely let me know how it goes. I would actually try Heisman/Varsity, which looks like it plays a little more to the ratings without changing too much. I've started tweaking a few sliders at Heisman/Varsity to try and get things working for CPU vs. CPU, but something tells me HUM vs. CPU will actually play as expected where offense will be a little out of wack. But what might work is if you overcompensate by drastically changing a lot of teh sliders around.

                      In other words, if Heisman/Varsity plays more to the ratings on the default settings than Heisman/Heisman, it might make sense to use Heisman/Varsity as the base and then just adjust the ratings accordingly.

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                        • KushNstien
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 606
                          #7
                          Re: Interesting discovery about difficulty level/sliders

                          Sounds intriguing testing now.
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                            • wolverinemaniac
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 411
                              #8
                              Re: Interesting discovery about difficulty level/sliders

                              anyone that has tried these have any input?

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                                • zocrates
                                  Rookie
                                  • Sep 2013
                                  • 239
                                  #9
                                  Re: Interesting discovery about difficulty level/sliders

                                  I can't figure this game out. One day, I test at least 5 games on Heisman/Freshman and it plays as I described it above, and now I'm testing it and it plays just about what you'd expect it to play where there's too much offense.

                                  Heisman/Freshman difficulty probably has the most separation in terms of ratings, but it looks like the sliders don't have much effect on gameplay. I moved the INT slider to 95 and still haven't seen any INTs or an improvement in overall pass defense.

                                  It's really looking like this game is broken with regard to separating the good and bad QBs.

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                                    • wolverinemaniac
                                      Rookie
                                      • Mar 2011
                                      • 411
                                      #10
                                      Re: Interesting discovery about difficulty level/sliders

                                      dang that stinks I was hoping you were on to something!

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                                        • Matt10
                                          Hall Of Fame
                                          • Apr 2006
                                          • 16619
                                          #11
                                          Re: Interesting discovery about difficulty level/sliders

                                          I was hoping as well, just for something fresh. I do remember testing the same set up at one point when the OS Sliders were still on the split of Heisman/Varsity. The offense was the biggest culprit and you're right, Zocrates, that it seemed like the sliders had no impact on most of the settings.
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                                            • zocrates
                                              Rookie
                                              • Sep 2013
                                              • 239
                                              #12
                                              Re: Interesting discovery about difficulty level/sliders

                                              Originally posted by Matt10
                                              I was hoping as well, just for something fresh. I do remember testing the same set up at one point when the OS Sliders were still on the split of Heisman/Varsity. The offense was the biggest culprit and you're right, Zocrates, that it seemed like the sliders had no impact on most of the settings.
                                              I think I'm seeing the most separation between QB ability on Heisman/Freshman, but that's the level that the INT slider didn't seem to have any affect, even at 95. It makes a difference on Heisman/Varsity, but the separation isn't there. And I see almost no separation at all on anything higher.

                                              As much as Heisman/Varsity isn't working the way I initially expected, I still think it performs the closest to the ratings out of all the difficulty level combinations on the default slider settings.

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                                                • Playmakers
                                                  Hall Of Fame
                                                  • Sep 2004
                                                  • 15340
                                                  #13
                                                  Re: Interesting discovery about difficulty level/sliders

                                                  Originally posted by wolverinemaniac
                                                  anyone that has tried these have any input?
                                                  I haven't because.....

                                                  I've just been playing with a CPU vs CPU Historic Team Dynasty file and to be honest I've experienced some amazing results by simply setting it at Varisty vs Varsity level.

                                                  I post game recaps in my dynasty thread and roster thread and the games have shown great variety

                                                  I absolutely love the game on this level for CPU vs CPU
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                                                    • bridgesro
                                                      Rookie
                                                      • Oct 2013
                                                      • 11
                                                      #14
                                                      Re: Interesting discovery about difficulty level/sliders

                                                      Originally posted by zocrates
                                                      I think I'm seeing the most separation between QB ability on Heisman/Freshman, but that's the level that the INT slider didn't seem to have any affect, even at 95. It makes a difference on Heisman/Varsity, but the separation isn't there. And I see almost no separation at all on anything higher.

                                                      As much as Heisman/Varsity isn't working the way I initially expected, I still think it performs the closest to the ratings out of all the difficulty level combinations on the default slider settings.
                                                      I do think you're generally onto something here. I was having issues with balance while trying various slider sets here and in combination. After reading this topic, I tried switching to Heisman/Freshman and the games have been noticeably more competitive. I'm going to run a couple between Freshman and Varsity to see which comes out best.

                                                      EDIT: I've noticed a huge difference in sacks, which was my main issue before - the other team would hit double digit sacks on average. Now it's much more realistic between 1-4 a game.
                                                      Last edited by bridgesro; 11-25-2015, 03:14 PM. Reason: More details

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                                                        • zocrates
                                                          Rookie
                                                          • Sep 2013
                                                          • 239
                                                          #15
                                                          Re: Interesting discovery about difficulty level/sliders

                                                          Originally posted by Playmakers
                                                          I haven't because.....

                                                          I've just been playing with a CPU vs CPU Historic Team Dynasty file and to be honest I've experienced some amazing results by simply setting it at Varisty vs Varsity level.

                                                          I post game recaps in my dynasty thread and roster thread and the games have shown great variety

                                                          I absolutely love the game on this level for CPU vs CPU
                                                          The stats from your alumni dynasty actually looks pretty good, but are you getting the same results with the default rosters, or with computer generated players several years into a dynasty? I'm not looking for sliders that will last 1 season and based on altered ratings. I'm looking for sliders that will work from the first year of a dynasty to the last.

                                                          I was actually surprised to see how accurate the QB TD totals were in your dynasty, but the INTs are pretty far off. You're supposed to average just about 1 INT per game per team, but you're averaging almost half that.

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