How do you RATE Madden 16 among ALL the Maddens of All Time?

[RicoLaguno]

Now that the newness has worn off and we have almost an entire season to let the game bake in...Im curious to how all you feel this game rates in the anals of all the Maddens?....Of course, you want to consider the entire package, not just graphics.....Gameplay, rating seperations, interactive feel, immersiveness, franchise depth, fun factor, etc, etc....

Ill start it off.....

In all honesty, Im disappointed a bit with this years game and the continuous lack of dynamic variety, player seperation in ratings and in on the field performances. Too much carbon copy gameplay that really just doesnt demand alot (or any) specific strategic planning to prepare for different teams...They all follow the same blueprints. Despite the fact that the game has this enhanced true physics engine, the game's variety still lacks dynamic play and unfolds the same way with these wonky looking quirky movements only slightly varying at the very end of these marrionet puppet tackles.

I loaded up Madden 08 and 10 on the PS3 just to revisit these old games for a change of pace and man...I have to say, those games aged VERY ...VERY welll!!

Madden 08 players had a very smooth and grounded physics engine that really felt tight and demonstrated great sense of weight. Players made solid contact with each other and didnt warp...When you hit a player, the correct resulting animations would folllow as you would expect...Great game!

Madden 10, had a wonderfullly balanced sense of player seperation and proportion to the entire field....Players got open on pass plays and were able to realistically seperate downfield....The lom motion physics engine really gave a realistic sensation of fighting for that extra yardage without resulting in these wierd distorted arm bar silent gumby tackles that we see today. The kick return game also had some nice seperation as well

Both games offered that wonderful old school Franchise menu where everything could easily be accessed from the right side of the screen in a vertical menu that was easily layed out

You could jump into any franchise teams game on the schedule and see there win loss record in the Schedule screen as well!! It didnt take an act of congress to jump into another teams matchup just to play one random Monday Night game on the schedule!


So my picks for the favorite Maddens of all time are still

Madden 10 and Madden 8 (Also enjoyed 2004 and 2005 as well from years ago)

But Madden 16 may not even be better than 15, and 25 inmo......What do you guys think?

Oh btw, there is a real life website running a Best Madden Leaderboard where you can actually see the top maddens of all time ranked live.....Im not sure if I agree with the top 5 tho

Im not sure if Im aloud to post the link to that ranking site or not so forgive me if this isnt allowed, please remove it if so, but keep this post for others to post their opinions here please...I'd love to know what everyone else thinks

http://www.ranker.com/list/madden-nfl-games/video-game-info

[richard2001]

Re: How do you RATE Madden 16 among ALL the Maddens of All Time?

Out of the ones I've played it's:
Madden 16
Madden 12
Madden 10

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[roadman]

Re: How do you RATE Madden 16 among ALL the Maddens of All Time?

Game play wise, Madden 16 by a long shot.

Madden 10 would be next, followed by Madden 12

CFM wise, Madden 16, not so much.

[richard2001]

Re: How do you RATE Madden 16 among ALL the Maddens of All Time?

Game play wise, Madden 16 by a long shot.

Madden 10 would be next, followed by Madden 12

CFM wise, Madden 16, not so much.

Yeah cfm is kinda ****ty. But madden 16s gameplay is just so much better that I couldn't go back to 12. I do miss the control that you had in 12 tho.

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[Trick13]

Re: How do you RATE Madden 16 among ALL the Maddens of All Time?

Gameplay = Madden 16, still has issues but I finally feel like it is getting somewhere...

Total game - Madden 06/07 (PS2 version) -

Had the best mix of features and so on - defensive assignments, custom sub packages (which are form subs on HGH and steroids), delayed blitzes, individual QB contain (blitz left side contain right), had custom playbook with play editor, had built in double team plays (one of my top 3 annoyingly missing gameplay items) and an amazingly deep franchise mode with player roles, morale, holdouts and so on, but did not force me to waste countless hours "assigning points" for progression or scouting!!!

[gr18]

Re: How do you RATE Madden 16 among ALL the Maddens of All Time?

1. Madden 16-gameplay wise,like others said,franchise could be better
2.Madden 12-played the crap out of this version-love the control/editing.
3.Madden 08(PC version)love the mods and editing ability
4.Madden 10-the game that brought me back,tried playing this a year ago and doesn't hold up compared to '12.
5.Madden 05-07-love the franchise in these games but game play over the years has evolved more than some remember.

[NateDogPack12]

Re: How do you RATE Madden 16 among ALL the Maddens of All Time?

What about 32-team control in the older titles? If Madden 08 had a utility that allowed you to switch between offenses in franchise mode, it would be about the perfect setup. As it stands now, the convenient team switching capability without having to save the game and re-load it only works in Exhibition.

If I remember correctly, you couldn't control more than one team in Madden 10 of Madden 12.

Am I wrong?

[Armor and Sword]

Re: How do you RATE Madden 16 among ALL the Maddens of All Time?

Madden 16 - gameplay by a long country mile.

Madden 2005

Madden 2007


Those three are clearly the best the series ever offered IMO in regards to gameplay and total package. I have put more hours into 2005/2007 and 2016 than all others (save for the legendary 93 which was a staple in my apartment and provided countless hours of insane fun among my friends).

If you want to get nostalgic I will throw in these two:

Madden 93

Madden 99

I did enjoy Madden 25 on the previous console more than any other offering on the PS3 (10 had too many bug's, 12 get's too much credit because of a revitalized franchise mode but the gameplay was to me quite stale and the passing game just bad, pinball tackling, sterile franchise with no life, play by play was unlistenable, it got boring fast).

[SECElit3]

How do you RATE Madden 16 among ALL the Maddens of All Time?

For me:

Madden 12 - still holds up as the greatest Madden ever. I put more hours into it than any other.

Madden 05 - Set the bar for greatness

Madden 16 - Great game play, but the player modeling ( the bent knees) kills the immersion.

Madden 08 - For the PC, still a strong option


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[KeanuReevesRules]

Re: How do you RATE Madden 16 among ALL the Maddens of All Time?

It's in the top four for me.

Madden 2005 is my favorite ever as it had legit hit sticking, injuries, a great progression system and even the radio show was cool.

The only two in front of it are Madden 14 and Madden 10 as they both made nice strides.

My biggest beef with Madden is that they always seem to add something kitchy like one-handed catches or helmet catches or some other crap and then take away other animations.

Same goes for franchise mode. I just wish they'd focus on football plays on the field.... yes, crazy catches happen, but so do injuries and those have gone bye bye.

So yeah... #4 Madden.

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[Mattanite]

Re: How do you RATE Madden 16 among ALL the Maddens of All Time?

Jogging my memory a bit today...

The good ones:

Madden 16 – Greatest yet in terms of gameplay and starting to get thereon Franchise… if you take the improvements to gameplay and franchise and add in all the missing features from Madden 09 you would have a near perfect game (minus dynamic injuries, autosub and practice squad).

Madden 09 – Still had weapons, hitstick shook the camera!! Roady run cam when breaking big gains, last year that draft was fully randomised, lead blocker controls. Superstar had workouts and franchise had morale and workouts, drafting showed combine stats and scouting reports, had Coaches and all coordinators (pictures even included). Horrendous draft logic, limited attributes for certain positions (QB’s had throw acc and throw power, that’s it), player progression included players getting faster and injured reserve didn’t work. Plus this was the game that got EA in trouble for having all the HoF players in.

Maddens years of (at best) mediocrity:

Madden 08 – Weapons, Hitstick 2.0, fatigue (especially in cold weather games) and what not, a solid game.

Madden 12 – Again okay gameplay, some improvements to franchise, introduced player traits and went back to player. Set draft classes so massively exploitable. Pictures of faces on drafted rookies. Progression grades. Hot cold streaks. Injured reserve. Expanded 75 player rosters and not knowing full rookie ratings until end of preseason.

Madden 13 – Okay, canned animations still but really developed the passing game. Trajectories, leading receivers, cancel PA, QB dodge stick. Introduced Nantz and Simms… urgh.

Madden 25 – Okay, had relocation again which was removed after 09. Ignite engine. Randomised set draft classes.

Madden 15 – Urgh, CFM, a pig in lipstick. Average to good gameplay in parts. Defensive camera introduced, draft stories… getting there with defensive improvements. RPG style progression.

Madden 11 – Okay… set draft classes with cartoon faces. No big game upgrades. Gameflow playcalling and the introduction of MUT. Old spice swagger and some new attributes. Locomotion system.

[jfsolo]

Re: How do you RATE Madden 16 among ALL the Maddens of All Time?

Despite the CFM shortcomings, the gameplay of M16 puts it way above all the others by a wide margin and no others are close for me.

Starting with M04 with play-maker and M05(which is grossly overrated, IMO) with the hit-stick, the gameplay went downhill for a decade, so any franchise improvements were irrelevant because the game wasn't fun to play for me.

[tyberious4now]

Re: How do you RATE Madden 16 among ALL the Maddens of All Time?

Madden 16 is by far the best....

Madden 25 was also pretty good and Madden 12...

[charter04]

Re: How do you RATE Madden 16 among ALL the Maddens of All Time?

1. Madden 16. As frustrating as some of it is I play it all the time. Fun online 32 user franchise mode. Good gameplay

2. Madden 15. Same as above but, better defense.

3. Madden 05/06 PS2. Those games had it all

4. Madden 12

5. Madden 10

6. Madden 92/93

7. Madden 2000 PS1. Give that one a spin and let it surprise you

8. Madden 08 PC

9. Madden 10

10. Madden 25 360

11. Madden 98

12. Madden 13


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[X_isBringingSexyBack]

Re: How do you RATE Madden 16 among ALL the Maddens of All Time?

This is a great question. I rate this as the best Madden since Madden 12.

Overall, I look at it this way:

Most Fun I've had with Madden - TIE - John Madden Football (Genesis), Madden '92 (Genesis)

Best Presentation for its time (Gen 5 era) - Madden '98 (a REAL John & Pat in the booth, and a REAL James Brown in studio).

Best Presentation for its time (Modern Era) - Madden 12

Best Gameplay - Madden 06 (PS2/XBOX)

Most Technically Sound - Any Madden from the Gen 6 era

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Madden 16 is fun, but it's filled with technical problems: warping, sliding, bad collision detection (too many times guys go down without actually being touched or touched too slightly), inexcusably bad offensive line blocking, a ton of wonky animations, old equipment, wrong body types, wrong jersey types, bad face models on very recognizable star players, uninspired field textures, poor day lighting, broken progressive lighting, fewer weather settings than last generation which was already bad to begin with, and a continued lack of focus on single player with an increased focus on MUT and the new Draft Champions Mode.

If those things were given some focus, I'd enjoy the game a lot more. It's frustrating to play and see so many things wrong all the time. But I'd give all of those needed improvements up if the offensive line just blocked properly. The O-Line in this game does the dumbest things I've ever seen in any football game and I've played them all. Far too often they just don't know who to block even when the block is right in front of them. People who defend it attempt to offer that people are just looking for these things, but that's a lie. The truth is, you don't have to look, they happen so often you can't miss them, and you can often find multiple problems during just a single play.