Madden NFL 17 Video - Pocket Disengage and Ball Physics

[mrprice33]

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Well I mean you've played over 40 hours of the game lol was just asking if it's any different than what we've had

Yeah, they peel off better than they did. I think it's glossed over in the video though because A) it's hard to show and B) it's not really a "feature" per se.

[Cam Fan]

Overall I'm pleased. However, the only big improvement I'd like to see is the AI offense adjust more to the defensive formations...check out of formations and make the user have to really disguise plays.

[Cowboy008]

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Someone pointed it out on twitter that it looks like Brady has a generic stance now. Clint said he's going to look into it.

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[SolidSquid]

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All the updated equipment really makes the game pop now . Even if your not an equipment fan compared to last year it looks more authentic. That Von Miller rip move gave me chills. Only thing i didn't like was the line play in the Giants Cowboys clip. The interior guys all just kinda jumble up, it looks awkward.

[johnnyg713]

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That celebration at the end of the video looked like guys coming onto the field and congratulating the Defensive player. Could this mean real time subs?

[SportsGamer94]

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That celebration at the end of the video looked like guys coming onto the field and congratulating the Defensive player. Could this mean real time subs?

I wonder if it means team celebrations after big plays like sacks and interceptions.

[Big FN Deal]

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That celebration at the end of the video looked like guys coming onto the field and congratulating the Defensive player. Could this mean real time subs?

This in conjunction with Price's mystery other fav feature has piqued my interest, I wonder....

[Moegames]

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Nice addition, should make pass plays much more fun and exciting, Nice job Tiburon.

[ggsimmonds]

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Not that impressed with the pass rush to be honest. Doesn't look that much improved as it still seems to have only win/loss outcomes in the trenches, e.g. blockers either wall the defender or the defender beats him cleanly. There is also still a lack of an actual pocket, and it seems as if passing lanes are non-existent. This may mean my quick short passing game should still be very effective.

Also, haven't they mentioned realistic time in the pocket for the past 2 cycles?

[strawberryshortcake]

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Not that impressed with the pass rush to be honest. Doesn't look that much improved as it still seems to have only win/loss outcomes in the trenches, e.g. blockers either wall the defender or the defender beats him cleanly. There is also still a lack of an actual pocket, and it seems as if passing lanes are non-existent. This may mean my quick short passing game should still be very effective.

Also, haven't they mentioned realistic time in the pocket for the past 2 cycles?

Unfortunately, it still seems to be the case. Always looking forward to how the team implements defensive line rush vs offensive line block every year, but I'm always disappointed unfortunately. Disappointed because you do see it done properly to a certain extent very, very infrequently and so you know it can be done. But disappointed that you don't see it either more frequently or always.

They can add in more animations all they want, but it looks as if the entire pocket isn't going to look organic or natural until they change the way they decide to program how the defensive lineman rush. Mentioned this in another thread ...

Madden right now:
Defensive lineman = heat seeking missiles (target: Offensive lineman)

Wishlist for future Madden installments:
Defensive lineman = heat seeking missiles (target: quarterback)

If the defensive lineman (DL) is programmed to actually rush the target quarterback, then the offensive lineman will automatically do it's job to finally block and protect the QB. The DL should be coded primarily to seek out it's primary target, the quarterback, by whatever means necessary. The OL would be the roadblock, and the DL will use whatever means necessary to get pass this roadblock. In turn, you wouldn't see pattycakes or stalemates ever again because the DL will always, always be looking to get to the QB as opposed to playing pattycake or stalemate chess with the OL. As it stands right now, it looks as if the DL is prorammed to target the OL first and foremost leaving the QB as an afterthought.

[Noonie13]

The defender sacking Manning still looks terrible. Without contextual awareness, it's just bad. The defender just runs into him. Arms not reaching out for him even though he's SO close. And it wasn't a shoulder tackle, so that that just doesn't cut it.

[Reed1417]

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Like how the pass rush got to the QB's in this video and the tipped ball INT was nice too. Did anyonw also notice how fast the camera switched when the ball was picked off? As someone who felt it rotated a tad slow last year that little change is good to see.

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[poster]

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Perhaps line interaction will get a much needed overhaul when moving to Frostbite. Wishful thinking at least, as it still needs alot of work.

Also did not like the Manning sack, as the initial contact was rather weak and not indicative of what you would see when normally watching a QB take a hit from a defender during a football game. Happens with tackles on ball carriers at times as well. Hopefully they can clean these things up, but it's been an issue for a while now, so perhaps it can't be done.

[mrprice33]

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I'm guessing that didn't make it in this years game.

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