Madden NFL 17 Videos -Commentary/Presentation, Toned Down Aggressive Catch (iMAV3RIQ)

Collapse

Recommended Videos

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • jpdavis82
    All Star
    • Sep 2005
    • 8793

    #31
    Re: Madden NFL 17 Videos -Commentary/Presentation, Toned Down Aggressive Catch (iMAV3

    Originally posted by Noonie13
    The same pre-game(fullback running in place), bad motion capture(every position runs with the same animation/movement), and suction tackling from 4 yrs ago.


    I'm not trying to be rude but I don't believe any of that is true, I know the pre-game is different, I've seen different positions run differently, and I don't see the suction tackling from 4 years ago, go back and play that game if you don't believe me.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    Comment

    • strawberryshortcake
      MVP
      • Sep 2009
      • 2438

      #32
      Re: Madden NFL 17 Videos -Commentary/Presentation, Toned Down Aggressive Catch (iMAV3

      <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NDzF_efTjVM" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" width="620"></iframe>


      Originally posted by apollon42
      What sports game has commentary that specific?
      One other remark that I would like to make. Why does it matter what other sports game have done prior? Doesn't Madden want to be progressive and innovative?

      Originally posted by roadman
      I understand what you are saying Straw, but I'm willing the bet that 75% of the people hike the ball quickly and they wouldn't hear all that much detailed commentary you were expecting.

      My goodness, my games are a hour and 15 minutes long as it is up to Madden 16, I don't want to tack on one more minute to that playing time.

      To each their own on that note.

      Commentary branches

      Even if a large percentage of people hike the ball quickly, I would hope there would be a system in place for "commentary branches."

      Player waiting to snap the ball with 4 seconds to go

      If prior to the snap, they were going to say 1st and 10, under 2 minutes to go, 3 receiver set, single back, defense in the nickel formation, 2 safeties up top, or whatever...

      Player decides to quick snap the ball with 25 seconds to go
      (A) If player quick snaps, I would like to see "commentary branches," It's 1st and 10, under 2 minutes to go, (player snaps the ball) here's the snap, Winstin drops back, rolls to right, etc.

      (B) If player quick snaps (another scenario), It's 1st and 10, under 2 minutes to go, 3 receiver set, (player snaps the ball) Winsten drops back, rolls to the right, etc.

      More descriptive commentary during the field of play (after the snap) shouldn't add an hour to the gameplay right? First play from scrimmage. Throwing across the body to the right, the defense taking a bad angle going for the pick, when Jenkins caught the pass at the 35 or and ran for about 41 yards. Mentioning that there was no one within 20 yards, or Jenkins running to the 50, 40, finally Darby chasing him out of bounds at the 23 or whatever yard line shouldn't really add much or anything at all to the gameplay time correct?

      Don't get me wrong. Commentary is improved and I have heard some good descriptions after the snap, but sometimes when there's dead air during the play immediately after the snap, it takes the immersion out. They don't have to always describe the play, but something to keep the commentary flowing.
      Last edited by strawberryshortcake; 06-21-2016, 01:50 PM.
      Fixes
      NBA2k Defense AI,Footplant, Gameplay
      MLB Show Pitching/throwing
      Madden/Live Animations Walking, Throwing

      Comment

      • 4thQtrStre5S
        MVP
        • Nov 2013
        • 3051

        #33
        Re: Madden NFL 17 Videos -Commentary/Presentation, Toned Down Aggressive Catch (iMAV3

        Originally posted by strawberryshortcake
        <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NDzF_efTjVM" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" width="620"></iframe>




        One other remark that I would like to make. Why does it matter what other sports game have done prior? Doesn't Madden want to be progressive and innovative?



        Commentary branches

        Even if a large percentage of people hike the ball quickly, I would hope there would be a system in place for "commentary branches."

        Player waiting to snap the ball with 4 seconds to go

        If prior to the snap, they were going to say 1st and 10, under 2 minutes to go, 3 receiver set, single back, defense in the nickel formation, 2 safeties up top, or whatever...

        Player decides to quick snap the ball with 25 seconds to go
        (A) If player quick snaps, I would like to see "commentary branches," It's 1st and 10, under 2 minutes to go, (player snaps the ball) here's the snap, Winstin drops back, rolls to right, etc.

        (B) If player quick snaps (another scenario), It's 1st and 10, under 2 minutes to go, 3 receiver set, (player snaps the ball) Winsten drops back, rolls to the right, etc.

        More descriptive commentary during the field of play (after the snap) shouldn't add an hour to the gameplay right? First play from scrimmage. Throwing across the body to the right, the defense taking a bad angle going for the pick, when Jenkins caught the pass at the 35 or and ran for about 41 yards. Mentioning that there was no one within 20 yards, or Jenkins running to the 50, 40, finally Darby chasing him out of bounds at the 23 or whatever yard line shouldn't really add much or anything at all to the gameplay time correct?

        Don't get me wrong. Commentary is improved and I have heard some good descriptions after the snap, but sometimes when there's dead air during the play immediately after the snap, it takes the immersion out. They don't have to always describe the play, but something to keep the commentary flowing.
        Speaking of repetitive commentary; Am I wrong or is this like the third time I have read this post in three different threads?

        Comment

        • strawberryshortcake
          MVP
          • Sep 2009
          • 2438

          #34
          Re: Madden NFL 17 Videos -Commentary/Presentation, Toned Down Aggressive Catch (iMAV3

          Originally posted by 4thQtrStre5S
          Speaking of repetitive commentary; Am I wrong or is this like the third time I have read this post in three different threads?
          Sorry, someone just made a post about commentary and they were wondering what the issue is. The above post talks about commentary branch point and is the first time I brought up commentary branch point. Sure the same play was used as an example, but what I'm talking about is different.

          Someone mentioned what people wanted in commentary in one thread, I answered. And then that same person ask the same question about what people wanted in commentary in another thread.
          Last edited by strawberryshortcake; 06-21-2016, 01:59 PM.
          Fixes
          NBA2k Defense AI,Footplant, Gameplay
          MLB Show Pitching/throwing
          Madden/Live Animations Walking, Throwing

          Comment

          • roadman
            *ll St*r
            • Aug 2003
            • 26339

            #35
            Re: Madden NFL 17 Videos -Commentary/Presentation, Toned Down Aggressive Catch (iMAV3

            Originally posted by strawberryshortcake
            <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NDzF_efTjVM" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" width="620"></iframe>




            One other remark that I would like to make. Why does it matter what other sports game have done prior? Doesn't Madden want to be progressive and innovative?



            Commentary branches

            Even if a large percentage of people hike the ball quickly, I would hope there would be a system in place for "commentary branches."

            Player waiting to snap the ball with 4 seconds to go

            If prior to the snap, they were going to say 1st and 10, under 2 minutes to go, 3 receiver set, single back, defense in the nickel formation, 2 safeties up top, or whatever...

            Player decides to quick snap the ball with 25 seconds to go
            (A) If player quick snaps, I would like to see "commentary branches," It's 1st and 10, under 2 minutes to go, (player snaps the ball) here's the snap, Winstin drops back, rolls to right, etc.

            (B) If player quick snaps (another scenario), It's 1st and 10, under 2 minutes to go, 3 receiver set, (player snaps the ball) Winsten drops back, rolls to the right, etc.

            More descriptive commentary during the field of play (after the snap) shouldn't add an hour to the gameplay right? First play from scrimmage. Throwing across the body to the right, the defense taking a bad angle going for the pick, when Jenkins caught the pass at the 35 or and ran for about 41 yards. Mentioning that there was no one within 20 yards, or Jenkins running to the 50, 40, finally Darby chasing him out of bounds at the 23 or whatever yard line shouldn't really add much or anything at all to the gameplay time correct?

            Don't get me wrong. Commentary is improved and I have heard some good descriptions after the snap, but sometimes when there's dead air during the play immediately after the snap, it takes the immersion out. They don't have to always describe the play, but something to keep the commentary flowing.
            Options are always good, personally for me, once I am tackled or the cpu is tackled, I am button pressing to the huddle and the selection of the play.

            And I doubt if I am the only one that plays that way, too.

            Also, I am not sure how much disk space commentary takes up to go along with the other parts of the game, that might be a factor too?

            Comment

            • 4thQtrStre5S
              MVP
              • Nov 2013
              • 3051

              #36
              Re: Madden NFL 17 Videos -Commentary/Presentation, Toned Down Aggressive Catch (iMAV3

              Originally posted by strawberryshortcake
              Sorry, someone just made a post about commentary and they were wondering what the issue is. The above post talks about commentary branch point and is the first time I brought up commentary branch point. Sure the same play was used as an example, but what I'm talking about is different.

              Someone mentioned what people wanted in commentary in one thread, I answered. And then that same person ask the same question about what people wanted in commentary in another thread.
              NO need to apologize; I see that you are using the same format and that makes the posts look very similar..I made a quick observation and then went back and looked at previous posts and saw that they weren't the same, just on the same subject.

              All good.

              Comment

              • strawberryshortcake
                MVP
                • Sep 2009
                • 2438

                #37
                Re: Madden NFL 17 Videos -Commentary/Presentation, Toned Down Aggressive Catch (iMAV3

                Originally posted by roadman
                Options are always good, personally for me, once I am tackled or the cpu is tackled, I am button pressing to the huddle and the selection of the play.

                And I doubt if I am the only one that plays that way, too.

                Also, I am not sure how much disk space commentary takes up to go along with the other parts of the game, that might be a factor too?
                That is true. Different players play the game differently. I even button through stuff if I don't feel like sticking around for the glamour. Let me rephrase, my concern is for more descriptive commentary between "after the snap" and "before the tackle." This window is when you can't button through. Looking for more descriptive commentary during gameplay moments when you can't button through.

                Madden disc space:

                XBOX1: 19.81 GB


                PS4: 19.20 GB
                https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-...DDENNFL16GN4NA
                Fixes
                NBA2k Defense AI,Footplant, Gameplay
                MLB Show Pitching/throwing
                Madden/Live Animations Walking, Throwing

                Comment

                • roadman
                  *ll St*r
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 26339

                  #38
                  Re: Madden NFL 17 Videos -Commentary/Presentation, Toned Down Aggressive Catch (iMAV3

                  Originally posted by strawberryshortcake
                  That is true. Different players play the game differently. I even button through stuff if I don't feel like sticking around for the glamour. Let me rephrase, my concern is for more descriptive commentary between "after the snap" and "before the tackle." This window is when you can't button through. Looking for more descriptive commentary during gameplay moments when you can't button through.

                  Madden disc space:

                  XBOX1: 19.81 GB


                  PS4: 19.20 GB
                  https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-...DDENNFL16GN4NA
                  Yeah, I understand what you are saying, Straw, extra commentary just isn't my cup of tea.

                  Sometimes, the best announcers shut up and let the play stand for itself. If the announcers are going on and on and on in real life sports telecast during the play or during the whole game, I turn to mute real quick.

                  The best Packer radio announcer was a guy by the name of Ray Scott. He was plain and simple and straight to the point.

                  Starr to Dowler........Touchdown.

                  If it's after the snap to the tackle, my choices are tune it out or mute it completely.

                  Comment

                  • wembley
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 2

                    #39
                    Re: Madden NFL 17 Videos -Commentary/Presentation, Toned Down Aggressive Catch (iMAV3

                    I mean whats the point of playing a game if you can't simply swat a ball down when your defender is in good position? Weird.

                    Comment

                    • strawberryshortcake
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 2438

                      #40
                      Re: Madden NFL 17 Videos -Commentary/Presentation, Toned Down Aggressive Catch (iMAV3

                      Originally posted by roadman
                      Yeah, I understand what you are saying, Straw, extra commentary just isn't my cup of tea.

                      Sometimes, the best announcers shut up and let the play stand for itself. If the announcers are going on and on and on in real life sports telecast during the play or during the whole game, I turn to mute real quick.

                      The best Packer radio announcer was a guy by the name of Ray Scott. He was plain and simple and straight to the point.

                      Starr to Dowler........Touchdown.

                      If it's after the snap to the tackle, my choices are tune it out or mute it completely.
                      Was trying to find some Ray Scott sound bytes on youtube but no success.

                      Even for individuals taking the extra steps to tune out commentary, the Madden team decided to take measures to implement a new crew with fresh new commentary. That has to stand for something. If they were to cater to gamers choosing to mute commentary, there wouldn't have been a need to allocate resource for new commentary talent.

                      As it stands, commentary is one of the touted new features. It's fresh, it's better, but still has a ways to go. Imagine if the game was shipped out without commentary. Some may even prefer it. But there's more than enough Madden gamers that want fresh commentary and Madden is delivering "broadcast commentary 1.0" is what I'll call it with "broadcast commentary 2.0" immediately once the other 60% gets injected.

                      Would you mute the following if this was implemented into Madden or your sports video game?
                      <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/HW4J-RiCZ2Q" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>
                      Fixes
                      NBA2k Defense AI,Footplant, Gameplay
                      MLB Show Pitching/throwing
                      Madden/Live Animations Walking, Throwing

                      Comment

                      • roadman
                        *ll St*r
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 26339

                        #41
                        Re: Madden NFL 17 Videos -Commentary/Presentation, Toned Down Aggressive Catch (iMAV3

                        Don't get me wrong, I enjoy commentary, up to a point.

                        I just don't enjoy the constant yaking just to take up space/dead air or a boring game.

                        Also, I said options are a good thing, to mute or not to mute?lol

                        Comment

                        • Palm Bay Pro
                          Banned
                          • May 2016
                          • 158

                          #42
                          Re: Madden NFL 17 Videos -Commentary/Presentation, Toned Down Aggressive Catch (iMAV3

                          This guy & SimFootballCritic are the gold standard on how to drop a Madden YouTube video. Props to this guy hopefully he's a GameChanger. Really sounds like he knows his football.

                          Comment

                          • Noonie13
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2015
                            • 9

                            #43
                            Originally posted by jpdavis82
                            I'm not trying to be rude but I don't believe any of that is true, I know the pre-game is different, I've seen different positions run differently, and I don't see the suction tackling from 4 years ago, go back and play that game if you don't believe me.


                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                            The vast majority of the players run the same no matter the situation or position. Offensive lineman should look nothing like CBs running if/when they pick up a fumble and return it.

                            Before kickoff, a FB is seen running in place and then abruptly taking off downfield for the kickoff. You're probably pointing to the completely unreal 5-guy pose down now implemented as the new pre-game element.

                            Suction tackling is still in the game. Look at the examples given earlier in this thread

                            Comment

                            Working...