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  • WaitTilNextYear
    Go Cubs Go
    • Mar 2013
    • 16840

    #46
    Re: Some MLB The Show 16 Bans Are Being Lifted, Details Here

    Originally posted by oski96
    I don't disagree with that. However, you are also addressing a pretty unusual situation and applying standards of rational behavior which probably do not apply in this case.

    This is really an outlier - If you have seen this happen anywhere before, I'd like to know about it. SDS simply banned a bunch of accounts, refused to provide and straight-forward information, stated the bans were "irreversible" and finally after 4 days, just simply lifted most of the bans.

    I have a hard time sympathising with the company that actually causes this whole mess and would expect them to at least extend an offer to help clean up the mess - especially towards those that were unfairly treated.

    Again, if this was handled with some tact, maybe there would not be the same problems - but here, you basically had SDS go quite while Ramone taunted and publicly embarrassed those asking for information. To my knowledge, those people Ramone "beat down" (as referenced in a news article about the bannings) were all innocent and had their accounts reinstated.

    If I'm SDS, I'm sending this gentleman a new copy - and happily so. I'd be grateful that this person still wants to play the game.
    I agree with you completely that this was a most unusual situation, hence my morbid curiosity about it. lol. I could also see SDS offering some form of compensation, but more likely in the form of packs, stubs, and hopefully an apology/clarification rather than replacing discs.

    The one thing I would disagree on with you here is that SDS caused this issue. Where I can understand that interpretation, I see the chronic glitch-exploiters as the ultimate cause of both this specific inquisition as well as SDS's overall approach to "ban first and ask deeper questions later" here. In responding to the continual culture of glitch exploitation that slants the market so that many gamers get frustrated, the company clearly made a mistake in overreaching their evidence in this instance. The root cause, imo, is the people who make a "living" exploiting glitches.
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    • RLB
      Rookie
      • Feb 2016
      • 147

      #47
      Re: Some MLB The Show 16 Bans Are Being Lifted, Details Here

      This sure was not handled very professionally, the hacking on people on Twitter and whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

      Frankly the game this year just didn't feel right from the start, it felt like we were the testers/QC department right off the start. Tons of bugs have been reported with some that seem like a minor fix that have not been touched. The physics with the PCI and ball at times are horrible, outfield fences showing wrong distances, weird shifts on a few players, some players have huge heads, SOTS downloaded music volumes are low, the outfield fence at Coors that SDS requested pictures of.....took me 30 seconds to find that on Google. Maybe they spent to much time planting Easter eggs and making sure their faces are scattered throughout the crowd instead of fixing the things that really matter.

      So when the online bunch figured out how to increase their stubs they did it. The game allowed it, so who's fault is that really? It's not like the clerk at the grocery store give you back to much change....that is where you test someone's integrity.

      Maybe next year they should give the game out two months before release to thirty upstanding individuals and designate each a team to play with for one month to locate bugs/issues. This would give SDS a month to fix it before release. At least the game will be tested by folks that know baseball inside and out.

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      • Ghost Of The Year
        Em El Be ¤ T Bone.
        • Mar 2014
        • 6179

        #48
        Re: Some MLB The Show 16 Bans Are Being Lifted, Details Here

        Originally posted by RLB

        Maybe next year they should give the game out two months before release to thirty upstanding individuals and designate each a team to play with for one month to locate bugs/issues. This would give SDS a month to fix it before release. At least the game will be tested by folks that know baseball inside and out.
        I just wish MLB would let SDS go back to an early March release where thousands can test the game & have most problems ID'ed by Openeing Day. I realise some wouldn't want to be "testers" of this sort, so they could still buy the game early April.
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        • oski96
          Rookie
          • Jul 2015
          • 48

          #49
          Re: Some MLB The Show 16 Bans Are Being Lifted, Details Here

          Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
          I just wish MLB would let SDS go back to an early March release where thousands can test the game & have most problems ID'ed by Openeing Day. I realise some wouldn't want to be "testers" of this sort, so they could still buy the game early April.
          We already are "testers" - just in April instead of March.

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          • countryboy
            Growing pains
            • Sep 2003
            • 52630

            #50
            Re: Some MLB The Show 16 Bans Are Being Lifted, Details Here

            And now the thread is quickly turning into lets take shots at SDS.....

            Way to go guys.... par for the course these days.
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            • KBLover
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2009
              • 12211

              #51
              Re: Some MLB The Show 16 Bans Are Being Lifted, Details Here

              Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
              I just wish MLB would let SDS go back to an early March release where thousands can test the game & have most problems ID'ed by Openeing Day. I realise some wouldn't want to be "testers" of this sort, so they could still buy the game early April.

              Or have an "Early Access" you can buy into with the understanding that you're playing a beta version. Then when it's release day, Early Access players download patch to make them up to release while everyone else can just buy like normal. Maybe throw on some incentives for the Early Access folks, have "feedback contests" something to encourage even more bug finding, etc. I remember one year I got a cap from buying the game (09 was it? Maybe 06?) something like that - or maybe if the top 3 bug finders get a nice prize or something.

              That way, you'd get some beta testers in to pound the game before release and find the issues and test the systems in place. Maybe even have folks TRY to exploit things. Heck, encourage it. Make it an event to find the loopholes.

              I don't know - maybe that's too "out there" but I think something could be done.
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              • Ghost Of The Year
                Em El Be ¤ T Bone.
                • Mar 2014
                • 6179

                #52
                Re: Some MLB The Show 16 Bans Are Being Lifted, Details Here

                Originally posted by KBLover
                ...Maybe even have folks TRY to exploit things. Heck, encourage it. Make it an event to find the loopholes.

                I don't know - maybe that's too "out there" but I think something could be done.
                This would be ideal. A lot of cutting edge companies already do this.
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                • cardinalbird5
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 2829

                  #53
                  Re: Some MLB The Show 16 Bans Are Being Lifted, Details Here

                  Originally posted by countryboy
                  Glad to see that SDS is reinstating those accounts who weren't too erroneous in their actions.


                  You mean those that did absolutely nothing?


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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52630

                    #54
                    Re: Some MLB The Show 16 Bans Are Being Lifted, Details Here

                    Originally posted by cardinalbird5
                    You mean those that did absolutely nothing?


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                    Yeah sure....
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                    • cardinalbird5
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 2829

                      #55
                      Re: Some MLB The Show 16 Bans Are Being Lifted, Details Here

                      Lol love seeing the ones in here having a hard time admitting they were wrong! I swear some of u prbly were hoping the bans didnt get removed. Peace everyone!


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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52630

                        #56
                        Re: Some MLB The Show 16 Bans Are Being Lifted, Details Here

                        Originally posted by cardinalbird5
                        Lol love seeing the ones in here having a hard time admitting they were wrong! I swear some of u prbly were hoping the bans didnt get removed. Peace everyone!


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                        • RLB
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2016
                          • 147

                          #57
                          Re: Some MLB The Show 16 Bans Are Being Lifted, Details Here

                          Originally posted by countryboy
                          And now the thread is quickly turning into lets take shots at SDS.....

                          Way to go guys.... par for the course these days.
                          Nope, just a comparison of the only glitch that I am aware of that directly effected them and how quickly it was resolved along with calling a lot of folks cheaters and thieves and the many glitches on our end that still haven't been resolved.

                          Since I named several issues I also offered a possible solution.

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                          • countryboy
                            Growing pains
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 52630

                            #58
                            Re: Some MLB The Show 16 Bans Are Being Lifted, Details Here

                            Originally posted by RLB
                            Nope, just a comparison of the only glitch that I am aware of that directly effected them and how quickly it was resolved along with calling a lot of folks cheaters and thieves and the many glitches on our end that still haven't been resolved.

                            Since I named several issues I also offered a possible solution.
                            Explain it how you want, it still is what it is.
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                            • extremeskins04
                              That's top class!
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 3803

                              #59
                              Re: Some MLB The Show 16 Bans Are Being Lifted, Details Here

                              Honestly this thread kinda disgusts me. So now that SDS is trying to resolve the situation, many of you turn to bashing them.

                              This must be the very first video game you've ever played.

                              Don't ever try an MMORPG. Like, ever.....because this kind of stuff happens all the time. And people don't get unbanned.

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                              • countryboy
                                Growing pains
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 52630

                                #60
                                Re: Some MLB The Show 16 Bans Are Being Lifted, Details Here

                                Originally posted by extremeskins04
                                Honestly this thread kinda disgusts me. So now that SDS is trying to resolve the situation, many of you turn to bashing them.

                                This must be the very first video game you've ever played.

                                Don't ever try an MMORPG. Like, ever.....because this kind of stuff happens all the time. And people don't get unbanned.
                                Because its the cool thing to do.

                                SDS was put into a very difficult situation. They handled it the best they could and how they saw fit. Could it have been handled differently? I guess, but hindsight is always 20/20. But instead of everyone saying, "hey they handled it how they saw fit and in the end have remedied the situation" we get.."I want a new disc for free because I got rid of mine!" "We are SDS BETA testers" "Insert cool sarcastic comment here"

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