[Junior Moe]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gosens6

Truth. I still play APF 2K8 to this day for it's gameplay experience. IMO, that game has better gameplay and animations than Madden offers to this day. (See: QB throwing animations) The line play is excellent and that's another area it looks like it's still going to beat Madden. (Still waiting for the final build to see if line play was tuned) If CFM was up to par with the Madden franchise modes on PS2, I'd buy it in an instant. As much as they say they're going to put time into franchise, it just seems like what they think is a deep experience, isn't what most hardcore franchise guys want. Sure, we had a ticker and practice squads now(Along with player editing). What about formation subs? What about a progression system that doesn't use RPG elements? That right there completely turns me off from the mode as a whole. No disrespect to EA or Kolbe, but I don't think he's the answer for CFM. When he worked on the MLB The Show franchise mode, it was met with mixed reviews. With MLB The Show 16 (The first year he didn't work on franchise) It's the BEST it's ever been. I don't know. Madden can say they care about the CFM crowd, but it's certainly no where near the top of their list. There's no immersion as of right now. Hopefully the new commentary engine and ticker will help that, but outside of that what do we have? Hopefully they really give us CFM guys something groundbreaking for 18 or it'll be another disappointing year for us

The thing for me is perspective. I love, LOVED, AP2K8. But it's gone now. And the chances of a fully featured football game on current gen are slim. Unless its NCAA which isn't exclusive anymore if I remember correctly. But that's another bag of worms in itself. On top of who'd put the money and resources up make it. EA is probably the only ones capable at this point. It's EA or bust everywhere you look. I'm an NFL fan more than a football fan. I just am. I need the packers and Steelers. Im a franchise nerd so I want all the elements you speak of in an NFL game. I wouldn't touch HEAD COACH if the teams were fictitious. I want to win the Atlanta Falcons a Super Bowl; not the Red Birds. That's where my enjoyment and replay value comes from. Not just outstanding on field gameplay. Although I want that too. The best chances of getting that, again IMO, is to ride (even slowly) with Madden and hope they continue going in the same direction.