An In-Depth Look at Player Development and How It Works in M17

**ScudDawg** · 08-23-2016, 05:20 AM

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There is a lot of useful information here, thank you for posting this. It sounds like some big changes to the system.

**JimmyT85** · 08-23-2016, 05:43 AM

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Brilliant post!

This is something I will look to do in M17 CFM.

I did something similar anyway, I only ever developed rookies I'd drafted

**tmart14** · 08-23-2016, 06:20 AM

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It sounds like this along with the new regression model will make it much more difficult to develop stars all across the board. I am on the fence about this until I get to play this evening.

Stupid work.

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**Mattanite** · 08-23-2016, 06:50 AM

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This is really interesting... hopefully the gameplay and "ratings differential" (As in better players play noticeably better, worse players play worse) are hard/true enough to keep 26+ year olds who are developed around, otherwise you might see a lot of leagues dumping young veterans (and old veterans) in favour of a rapidly developing a set of young players on rookie contracts (ala M15 when developing was too easy).

This is where a 2k style "badges" system is needed, why sign a veteran if he will be so much harder to make better unless he has picked up a few tricks the young players just don't have?

**timhere1970** · 08-23-2016, 07:15 AM

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Thank you. This is the kind of post I come to operation sports for.

**ajra21** · 08-23-2016, 08:25 AM

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excellent, thank you for posting. i really like this. it should be more difficult to develop a player later in their career.

it also has a knock on effect regarding contracts and cap management. in past maddens, you could store XP to use after you'd extended a guy three years into their career and then spend the XP on making them a cheap beast. this system seriously impacts that strategy.

it also really encourages you to draft the youngest prospects to allow for more development time.

**brandon27** · 08-23-2016, 09:01 AM

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Well, this is really interesting. I started up a franchise last night just to check things out, get used to the new stuff before starting up my real one, I was surprised to see how high the costs were. I was surprised to see how "expensive" some of the upgrades for Tannehill were given how low some of his ratings were. Now this explains it, as he's 28 years old.

Very interesting new take on the system. It's really going to change the way people play franchise mode IMO. You're going to have to rely more heavily on the draft, and on development with younger players, as opposed to signing guys to their second contracts and hoping to continue their growth. What they've got at that point, is probably all theyre going to be. And, as someone else said, no more stacking up XP for players from year to year to buy some of those big upgrades, as everything will constantly go up.

Really puts the emphasis on drafting well, and developing the right guys when they're in their prime. Really, it puts things more in line with how the NFL teams operate.

I feel this is a job well done by EA here, but I know it's going to face backlash from some of the players when they figure out that it's different, or "harder" than in the past. Kind of goes along more with Rex saying he's glad EA supported the vision of a more community based Madden, than a widely acceptable casual Madden. Interesting to look in depth at a lot of these changes, and compare them to how NFL teams works, then it suddenly makes sense. Besides... if anyone doesn't like it. Just edit your players ratings to whatever you want them to be now that you have full editing. It's a win-win for the Madden gamer IMO.

**Armor and Sword** · 08-23-2016, 09:35 AM

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Outstanding information here. Great post.

**mrprice33** · 08-23-2016, 09:44 AM

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Great breakdown of everything.

**slingblade73** · 08-23-2016, 10:43 AM

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20 year old studs in round 1 are now a must have.

**Brandwin** · 08-23-2016, 12:18 PM

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Great stuff - so the drills. The higher the medal, the more points and you can sim after you earn a medal and get the same XP each time?

Say for example I have a Superstar trait RB, but he's third on depth chart, be will get less XP than if he was first?

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**ajra21** · 08-23-2016, 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by brandon27

Well, this is really interesting. I started up a franchise last night just to check things out, get used to the new stuff before starting up my real one, I was surprised to see how high the costs were. I was surprised to see how "expensive" some of the upgrades for Tannehill were given how low some of his ratings were. Now this explains it, as he's 28 years old.

Very interesting new take on the system. It's really going to change the way people play franchise mode IMO. You're going to have to rely more heavily on the draft, and on development with younger players, as opposed to signing guys to their second contracts and hoping to continue their growth. What they've got at that point, is probably all theyre going to be. And, as someone else said, no more stacking up XP for players from year to year to buy some of those big upgrades, as everything will constantly go up.

Really puts the emphasis on drafting well, and developing the right guys when they're in their prime. Really, it puts things more in line with how the NFL teams operate.

I feel this is a job well done by EA here, but I know it's going to face backlash from some of the players when they figure out that it's different, or "harder" than in the past. Kind of goes along more with Rex saying he's glad EA supported the vision of a more community based Madden, than a widely acceptable casual Madden. Interesting to look in depth at a lot of these changes, and compare them to how NFL teams works, then it suddenly makes sense. Besides... if anyone doesn't like it. Just edit your players ratings to whatever you want them to be now that you have full editing. It's a win-win for the Madden gamer IMO.

completely agree. this is a sensible approach.

one question: you can edit a player's atts whenever you want?

**fringeelement** · 08-23-2016, 12:53 PM

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While I like development to be challenging and don't want to be able to build up a team of 90+ OVR, I'm not sure I like that it's set definitively at 26 years old. Not EVERY athlete in the world hits a wall in their 26th year, just like not every one starts to decline exactly at 30 years old. I really think there should be some variance in this, no matter how little. I mean, some guys are late bloomers. At least, as someone else pointed out, they gave us the ability to edit players.

**BleedGreen710** · 08-23-2016, 02:55 PM

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this is incredibly useful information, thankyou for sharing

is there a guide anywhere on how to change a players development trait? I know in M17 its a new feature (Dynamic player development) but I've yet to see my players development change and am wondering what triggers it.

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