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  • Nine.Six.Melo
    Rookie
    • Apr 2016
    • 170

    #721
    Re: Player Archetypes NBA 2k17

    Originally posted by Rip4ever
    Sure you will be able to make a HoF player. You will just need to play him a full 12-14 year career to do it. No more of this GOAT for a half dozens years and getting in while you go play baseball or some crap.

    Oh the salt

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    • raidertiger
      Rookie
      • May 2011
      • 493

      #722
      Re: Player Archetypes NBA 2k17

      Really hope rebounding is all that it's cracked up to be. But I'm concerned that height impacts rebounding as seen in the videos. The better rebounders are the shorter guys, not the 7-3 players. I really hope that this is fixed.

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      • KingKoopaKnicca
        Banned
        • Sep 2016
        • 382

        #723
        Re: Player Archetypes NBA 2k17

        Originally posted by raidertiger
        Really hope rebounding is all that it's cracked up to be. But I'm concerned that height impacts rebounding as seen in the videos. The better rebounders are the shorter guys, not the 7-3 players. I really hope that this is fixed.
        You have some valid concerns but I can tell you right now that it's looking good. One of the developers said in his blog, I think it was Mike Wang. that this year they added more ability for a shorter player to jump higher not a 7 ft 3 player jump just as high while being 7 ft 3... also a lot of it is player skill, I hooked up with that dude online (no homo lol) MJ23 Pola Bear and we played park and pro AM he was grabbing ALL kinda boards over 7ft 3 players and THAT WAS IN 2K16! They ARE tweaking it even more in 2k17 towards the favor of a shorter but athletic big man as far as rebounding goes. But it's not just that. Rebounding as a stat last year was underdeveloped the glass cleaner and the post lockdown defender will take big hits to their potential if they don't stand out as superior rebounders based on their stats compared to everyone else. I doubt 2k F'd that up.

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        • kingmobz23
          Rookie
          • Apr 2015
          • 102

          #724
          Re: Player Archetypes NBA 2k17

          Under SG what would be best to recreate A Dwyane wade /James Harden type of player I want to eventually end up on the heat to replace wade but I want him to be able to make 3s at a good rate and still be able to get in the paint when needed and be able to playmake is shot creator best for this? Every thing is sorta balanced so I'm wondering
          #HeatLyfer

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          • Nine.Six.Melo
            Rookie
            • Apr 2016
            • 170

            #725
            Re: Player Archetypes NBA 2k17

            Originally posted by kingmobz23
            Under SG what would be best to recreate A Dwyane wade /James Harden type of player I want to eventually end up on the heat to replace wade but I want him to be able to make 3s at a good rate and still be able to get in the paint when needed and be able to playmake is shot creator best for this? Every thing is sorta balanced so I'm wondering
            Shot Creator

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            • raidertiger
              Rookie
              • May 2011
              • 493

              #726
              Re: Player Archetypes NBA 2k17

              Originally posted by KingKoopaKnicca
              You have some valid concerns but I can tell you right now that it's looking good. One of the developers said in his blog, I think it was Mike Wang. that this year they added more ability for a shorter player to jump higher not a 7 ft 3 player jump just as high while being 7 ft 3... also a lot of it is player skill, I hooked up with that dude online (no homo lol) MJ23 Pola Bear and we played park and pro AM he was grabbing ALL kinda boards over 7ft 3 players and THAT WAS IN 2K16! They ARE tweaking it even more in 2k17 towards the favor of a shorter but athletic big man as far as rebounding goes. But it's not just that. Rebounding as a stat last year was underdeveloped the glass cleaner and the post lockdown defender will take big hits to their potential if they don't stand out as superior rebounders based on their stats compared to everyone else. I doubt 2k F'd that up.
              Sweet. Changes definitely sound good then. Might go ahead and main a 6'9 Glass cleaning PF and just go to work at the Park over everyone.

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              • KingKoopaKnicca
                Banned
                • Sep 2016
                • 382

                #727
                Re: Player Archetypes NBA 2k17

                Originally posted by kingmobz23
                Under SG what would be best to recreate A Dwyane wade /James Harden type of player I want to eventually end up on the heat to replace wade but I want him to be able to make 3s at a good rate and still be able to get in the paint when needed and be able to playmake is shot creator best for this? Every thing is sorta balanced so I'm wondering
                Shot Creator is THAT OP build on offense. They have awesome badges mid range dead eye, difficult shots... to name a few but here is the catch. Their normally low three ball is HIGH off the dribble so they also have a 3 ball... That's what people are finding out.. that their three ball is high off the dribble because of their unique ability. Also I saw a video describing exactly what difficult shots and it's not like deadeye, its the ability to hit "difficult shots OFF THE DRIBBLE" that not only have a high off the dribble stat they have a badge to compliment plus they got a badge to compliment their mid-range. A point guard short creator is slightly better than a SG one because he will have the ball in his hands all the time. HERE is where it all ends though... It's Rock, Paper, Scissors balance, a LDD (LockDownDefender) would COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN any shot creator, no arguments there. They would drain their stamina if LDD were a SHORT BIG MAN version the only valid type of LDD he'd have BRUISER, drain them (stamina), take away their badges and lower their offensive attributes. Who said this game ain't balanced? But since I believe LDD will be rare. The META will be point guard shot creators. That's my BOLD PREDICTION. You heard it here first. There is already a youtuber named Sam Pham (asian dude, smart dude honestly) who made a video about PG Shot Creator and how OP it is.

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                • Rockie_Fresh88
                  Lockdown Defender
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 9621

                  #728
                  Re: Player Archetypes NBA 2k17

                  Originally posted by KingKoopaKnicca
                  With NO actual proof and just "what some guy on twitter said, I don't remember..." and and actual post FROM A DEVELOPER saying that our athleticism and ball handling would be the same if we had the same vitals I'm more inclined to believe the DEVELOPER simply cause I can see it with my own two eyes. Last year I did make a 6 ft 8 center as well as a 6ft 8 small forward with (post) lockdown defender and (perimeter) lockdown defender and I could guard all 5 positions... AND they had it like that last year but this year to say SIZE matters and still put a hidden cap by position doesn't make sense. There is already a soft cap for 2k17 because the RANGE of the positions varies (can't make 6ft 5 center for example so naturally a 6ft 5 Power Forward will be faster as an extreme example BUT if they had the same Vitals a 6ft 8 Power Forward vs a 6ft 8 Center) - Same Wing Span, Weight and Height. I'm 99% sure they are the same VITALS based on the developer said. At this point I want someone to prove me wrong just to make sure I'm not over looking something. I'd rather be wrong and learn something than be right and in for a rude awakening... Where is the link to the "guy on twitter with the game" claiming same vitals regardless of position means different stats... gotta cite your source.
                  Omg bro calm down ! I don't have the game. We'll find out Friday. I just quoted this guy who has the game. He could definitely be wrong .the DEV did say position doesn't matter when it comes to athleticism and ball control tho.
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                  • KingKoopaKnicca
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 382

                    #729
                    Re: Player Archetypes NBA 2k17

                    Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                    Omg bro calm down ! I don't have the game. We'll find out Friday. I just quoted this guy who has the game. He could definitely be wrong .the DEV did say position doesn't matter when it comes to athleticism and ball control tho.
                    Son I'm excited for the game! Maybe that's the energy you sense. I mean no hostility I wanted to thank you for starting this wonderful thread. And thanks for the screen shot. Not sure if I believe him but yea we will find out A LOT of things in TWO days. You're talking to a guy that spent 300-400 dollars last year testing builds on 2K. I'm more of a DOER than than A TALKER. I will definitely be sharing my thoughts with ya'll when Prelude hits whether I'm WRONG or RIGHT about ANYTHING. This discussion has absolutely been PRICELESS.

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                    • Rockie_Fresh88
                      Lockdown Defender
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 9621

                      #730
                      Re: Player Archetypes NBA 2k17

                      Originally posted by KingKoopaKnicca
                      Son I'm excited for the game! Maybe that's the energy you sense. I mean no hostility I wanted to thank you for starting this wonderful thread. And thanks for the screen shot. Not sure if I believe him but yea we will find out A LOT of things in three days. You're talking to a guy that spent 300-400 dollars last year testing builds on you tube. I'm more of a DOER than than A TALKER. I will definitely be sharing my thoughts with ya'll when Prelude hits whether I'm WRONG or RIGHT about ANYTHING. This discussion has absolutely been PRICELESS.
                      No prob man I'm definitely tryna find any little info info I can about the bigs lol. It seems like a lot more has leaked about the perimeter builds.
                      #1 Laker fan
                      First Team Defense !!!

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                      • kingmobz23
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 102

                        #731
                        Re: Player Archetypes NBA 2k17

                        Originally posted by Nine.Six.Melo
                        Shot Creator
                        Thanks man appreciate it
                        #HeatLyfer

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                        • kingmobz23
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 102

                          #732
                          Re: Player Archetypes NBA 2k17

                          Originally posted by KingKoopaKnicca
                          Shot Creator is THAT OP build on offense. They have awesome badges mid range dead eye, difficult shots... to name a few but here is the catch. Their normally low three ball is HIGH off the dribble so they also have a 3 ball... That's what people are finding out.. that their three ball is high off the dribble because of their unique ability. Also I saw a video describing exactly what difficult shots and it's not like deadeye, its the ability to hit "difficult shots OFF THE DRIBBLE" that not only have a high off the dribble stat they have a badge to compliment plus they got a badge to compliment their mid-range. A point guard short creator is slightly better than a SG one because he will have the ball in his hands all the time. HERE is where it all ends though... It's Rock, Paper, Scissors balance, a LDD (LockDownDefender) would COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN any shot creator, no arguments there. They would drain their stamina if LDD were a SHORT BIG MAN version the only valid type of LDD he'd have BRUISER, drain them (stamina), take away their badges and lower their offensive attributes. Who said this game ain't balanced? But since I believe LDD will be rare. The META will be point guard shot creators. That's my BOLD PREDICTION. You heard it here first. There is already a youtuber named Sam Pham (asian dude, smart dude honestly) who made a video about PG Shot Creator and how OP it is.
                          Iight man thank you appreciate the insight I been checking out the stats and thinking of wade and harden they both great at shooting getting in the paint ad well as passing and shot creator seemed the best balanced with great adds to it like the difficulty and we'll wade and harden be getting some tuff of the dribble shots so I think it's best plus I can kind of change up the stats with his height and wing span gon make him almost identical see if it works out but thanks again
                          #HeatLyfer

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                          • KingKoopaKnicca
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 382

                            #733
                            Re: Player Archetypes NBA 2k17

                            Since YOUTUBE inspires people and feeds the "sheep" - lemme STOP! LOL I want to take away attention from the LDD build by sharing this with the community, I hope this goes viral and this is the new META. Check it out!!!

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                            • AlBara622
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 12

                              #734
                              Re: Player Archetypes NBA 2k17

                              Originally posted by kingmobz23
                              Iight man thank you appreciate the insight I been checking out the stats and thinking of wade and harden they both great at shooting getting in the paint ad well as passing and shot creator seemed the best balanced with great adds to it like the difficulty and we'll wade and harden be getting some tuff of the dribble shots so I think it's best plus I can kind of change up the stats with his height and wing span gon make him almost identical see if it works out but thanks again

                              Prime Wade was a pur slashing player but this year a slasher seems cant shoot correctly at 3... too bad...

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                              • abcfinest
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 69

                                #735
                                Re: Player Archetypes NBA 2k17

                                I just want a fast 6'0-6'3 pass first point guard. With max out defense to lock people down. I want max out agility. And want to be able to pass n dribble well. I dont need be a deadly shooter but respectable. At least be able to knock down open jumpers if left wide open. Young Chris Paul is who i have in mind. Playmaker would be perfect but i can't max defense.

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