Nba 2k17 Tired'Gatorade Icon'should lead to Automatic Walking animation. PLEASE READ.

[Razeart2422]

The gatorade icon should lead to an automatic walking animation not allowing the user or cpu to jog or run even if you(The User) press turbo.

This would add so much to the game...

(1)It would force Users who leave their players in all game to actually sub them out.
(2)It would force players to call timeouts. I rarely call timeouts, but this would force me to do it. And it wouldn't feel cheesy because if i choose not to call a timeout i would be forced to play the game at a way slower tempo. But I would still enjoy it because it would still feel real. It would force me to play a post up game. Everyone in real life that plays basketball knows that when you are tired, you can't drive or go on fast breaks until you recover, forcing you to change your style of play.

If the 2k game developers force the game to make you go into an automatic walk animation, once the gatorade symbol appears. The gatorade symbol will have a bigger purpose.

Like lets say I leave in a tired Stephon Curry but all the other players are full energy, this would still allow me to do fastbreaks.... because i could still dish it to the other "Fully Energized" players running down the court.

One other thing... if you are forced to walk the ball up the court when gatorade symbol shows up... once you walk up the ball up the court and decide to call a timeout, it would look just like what you see in real life, when players walk the ball up the court (Not Run/Sprint) to call a time out.

[World1]

Re: Nba 2k17 Tired'Gatorade Icon'should lead to Automatic Walking animation. PLEASE R

This is a great idea

[Razeart2422]

Re: Nba 2k17 Tired'Gatorade Icon'should lead to Automatic Walking animation. PLEASE R

Hopefully the 2k devs can patch this in. Last year in nba 2k16 they were able to make it so that it was easier to do the walking animation by making the left stick more sensitive. If they add this in Nba 2k17 this year. It would force the user to walk the ball up more often too.

Please patch this 2k. It would add so much to the game. And for the players who don't want this type of realism in their game they can turn stamina/fatigue off.

[Mweemwee]

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But it knocks your stats and you end up losing the ball/missing shots already. That's enough of a sign surely?

[IUxHOOSIERS]

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I say just decrease their chances of making a shot, or holding onto the ball, along with making them run a lot slower. Having them just walk is a little bit of a stretch IMO but I like the idea. It would definitely force people to take them out.

[Pokes404]

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I think not allowing the player to even jog is a little bit of overkill. They aren't going to be nearly as explosive as their fresh and rested counterparts, and their stats take a hit, which makes them less effective. I think that's probably enough of a deterrent. If the other player still doesn't call timeouts or sub, you should have the advantage (if you've been resting your guys).

Now, I wouldn't mind seeing something where if you continue to push a guy who is already showing the Gatorade icon, you run the risk of him cramping. Then at that point, maybe you do eliminate running entirely and all he can do is walk and jog (or hobble if they wanted to add in the animation). That might be a way to further encourage players to sub because, while it may not happen frequently, if a player does starts cramping they're basically done for the rest of the game.

[kilmar1]

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This cannot happen until AFTER they fix the Stamina issue in MyCareer. I already start the 4th quarter almost gassed. If I am physically incapable of running due to being tired because I cannot raise stamina due to a bug, controllers will start flying.

[Razeart2422]

Re: Nba 2k17 Tired'Gatorade Icon'should lead to Automatic Walking animation. PLEASE R

I think not allowing the player to even jog is a little bit of overkill. They aren't going to be nearly as explosive as their fresh and rested counterparts, and their stats take a hit, which makes them less effective. I think that's probably enough of a deterrent. If the other player still doesn't call timeouts or sub, you should have the advantage (if you've been resting your guys).

Now, I wouldn't mind seeing something where if you continue to push a guy who is already showing the Gatorade icon, you run the risk of him cramping. Then at that point, maybe you do eliminate running entirely and all he can do is walk and jog (or hobble if they wanted to add in the animation). That might be a way to further encourage players to sub because, while it may not happen frequently, if a player does starts cramping they're basically done for the rest of the game.

I understand what you mean. You should only be forced to walk on offense. Like when you are in bounding the ball after the opposing team scores a basket. And have the option to jog when pressing turbo, but not run, when you reach the other side of the court. When on defense you should be able to walk and jog at all times when Gatorade Icon shows up.

I am a runner and when ever might calf muscles start hurting after a long run my body forces me to walk and after a short walk after i rest a bit then i am able to walk again. Lol That is how it should be in the game. Nba 2k is simulating real life, so they should make it more like what we see in real life.

[BA2929]

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I personally think this isn't a very good idea. A professional NBA player isn't going to get so tired in a game where they can't even jog and are forced to walk around. That's overkill as someone above stated.

If we want a sim experience, this isn't it. Michael Jordan had the flu and scored 38 points. Yes, it is Jordan and it was the Finals, but the flu is a lot more debilitating than being super tired and he had no issue running around.

If you guys really think we need something, here's my idea: if the Gatorade symbol shows up, the player requests to come out and you have to sub him out at the next dead ball. If you don't, then their stats drop to half.

[tetoleetd]

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i play offline myleague mostly and i think 2k's default fatigue settings are bogus.... i play realistic rotations, where i have multiple backups getting 15-24 minutes a game and my starters STILL have stamina ratings in the low 70's or 60's as early as the very beginning of the 3rd quarter.

that is NOT realistic. nba players are professional athletes and they should be near fully rested after a 20 minute half time break.

[Conocimiento]

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I think that your controller should shock you every time you try to exhaust your player...so inconsiderate. First they do what we want and now we are going to run him to death?!!

In all seriousness, as my first post under this name, (have been visiting this website for years and forgot my old password a while back) we should be recommended on the next dead ball to take the player out with a small side not telling us what will be affected and how much. Or that your chances of injury increase if you choose not. Would be cool to see him visually tired, but then the smart AI is going to abuse the crap out of you once they notice. That would be another great addition for future games...have the AI react to your players reactions. Maybe hard fouls if you're on a roll, some smack talk...idk maybe I'm overdoing it.

[Razeart2422]

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I don't think forcing you to walk at least for a few seconds is excessive. They can make it that you are forced to walk every other play and you have to wait to catch your breathe or rest a little. Or make the walk animation trigger for a couple of seconds every other play as a way to penalize the user for trying to over play their tired player.

[Razeart2422]

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Also Jordan had the flu in that game but he didnt run and jog up the court every play. As of now i feel this would be the most realistic way to implement the fact that basketball players walk up the court more often than people who play nba 2k17.

[Pokes404]

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I am a runner and when ever might calf muscles start hurting after a long run my body forces me to walk and after a short walk after i rest a bit then i am able to walk again. Lol That is how it should be in the game. Nba 2k is simulating real life, so they should make it more like what we see in real life.

The problem with that analogy is that you're talking about a situation where you're able to give your body a break and walk. In an NBA game (especially when talking about a playoff game), you're competing against someone else and trying to win the game. To tweak your analogy a bit, let's say your muscles are hurting and your body is screaming for you to walk ... but you're neck-and-neck with another runner 200 yards from the finish line. You're not going to stop and walk at that point. Any competitor is more likely to injure themselves trying to push through to the finish line than they are to walk in the middle of a tight competition.

NBA players are the same way. Anyone that's a competitor is going to try to push through the pain when they're in the heat of the action, and most players can do it. The problem is, when a player gets that tired, not only are they going to be less effective on the court but they also run the risk of pulling/injuring something. It's the coaches job to manage minutes and not put his players in that situation in the first place. That's why I don't think it's a good idea to force players to walk. What if the game forces you to walk right in the middle of a critical play? That's not the way anyone wants to lose a game. I think it's a better idea for them to simply make your players less effective/explosive when they're tired, and possibly make the players more prone to injury when pushed too hard.

*Additional Thought*
Also, I'd like to see 2K implement a cumulative fatigue system for online play (similar to what they have in MyLeague). So, let's say you play with the Cavs and run LeBron and Kyrie into the ground. The next game you play with the Cavs, Kyrie and LeBron will only be able to have a maximum stamina of 90%. If you run them into the ground again, maybe it drops to 75% the next game. This would force people to be smarter with their rotations instead of playing their starters the whole game and then having them fresh and rested as soon as they start another game. Otherwise, they'll eventually hit a point where they'll basically just have to sit all of their starters

[Sundown]

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It makes no sense for a professional athlete to not be able to jog at the end of a 48 minute game even after high levels of exertion. Even I would be able to jog when tired, albeit not particularly fast. It's a regular basketball game, not a marathon death march.

When players are tired, they should be less accurate, less explosive, more prone to mental mistakes, be more easily affected by physical contact, have a shorter "short term stamina bar", and be more likely to lose the ball or need to pick up their handle under heavy defensive pressure. The should even be more susceptible to injury. But they should still be able to jog.