CPU- Double Teams Post Patch

[ch46647]

Hey guys.. I'm seeing a big issue that was suppoesd to be addressed in the last patch. The CPU is still double teaming star players as soon as they score 6-8 points. I'm not overly critical about this game, but this is absolutely killing the offline experience.

Defenders are literally leaving players wide open to run half way across the floor to double team. I understand what the developers are trying to accomplish, but the logic is just not there to support this yet.

Mike- Its my understanding you are releasing another patch. Please take a look at this issue. IMO it would be best if you disabled double teaming all together, but if you dont want to do that, maybe give us off-line guys an option to disable it.. Any comsideration into this would be GREATLY apprecitated.

I'm playig in MyLeague and Play now offline. (Various difficulty settings)

[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: CPU- Double Teams Post Patch

Hey guys.. I'm seeing a big issue that was suppoesd to be addressed in the last patch. The CPU is still double teaming star players as soon as they score 6-8 points. I'm not overly critical about this game, but this is absolutely killing the offline experience.

Defenders are literally leaving players wide open to run half way across the floor to double team. I understand what the developers are trying to accomplish, but the logic is just not there to support this yet.

Mike- Its my understanding you are releasing another patch. Please take a look at this issue. IMO it would be best if you disabled double teaming all together, but if you dont want to do that, maybe give us off-line guys an option to disable it.. Any comsideration into this would be GREATLY apprecitated.

I'm playig in MyLeague and Play now offline. (Various difficulty settings)

Im seeing a slightly different area of improvement for double teams. Im not seeing them come too soon, Im seeing the double come off great shooters one pass away, with no rotation.

Im seeing doubles coming off guys who can't shoot, but this happens more than it should.

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[Smirkin Dirk]

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Whoa freaky. Im watching the Clippers Wolves game.

They doubled off Redick and Griffin found him with the skip pass.

Next possession. Redick's defender comes off him to double Griffin, and Blake finds him one pass away.

Still, it happens in 2K too often.

[Futurestyl3]

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Yea its still a problem, I was playing MyCareer earlier and I'm still seeing stupid double teams.

I didn't record any MyCareer Gameplay, but I did post this in the 1.05 patch thread

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[raiderphantom]

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CPU rotations are just poor in general. They will rotate a big over on a drive and even drop a defender down to help the big but when it comes to rotating out on shooters I rarely ever even see an effort. Its disappointing to say the least.

[ch46647]

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In addition to double teams, it would also be nice if they could clean up the CPU hard hedge bug. I love all the defensive options they added to the pick and roll, but when the CPU hard hedges they run out so far above the pick, in many cases you can just run right by them because they are way too high.

It would be great if the devs could fix these two issues for us offline guys.

[sperlz_99]

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100% agree with all this. It's actually bordering on game breaking for me. I started a thread about the clippers defense where they hard hedge and it really is leaving men free constantly and I'm having unconsteted three point shots time and time again. Due to this I'm finding the game too easy to win matches on hof and it shouldn't be that easy.

I really hope a patch is released for this shortly, I'm not one of these people who like to moan and I really appreciate the work 2k do and think apart from this the game is brilliant. However with this defense it really is hindering the experience.

[ch46647]

Re: CPU- Double Teams Post Patch

100% agree with all this. It's actually bordering on game breaking for me. I started a thread about the clippers defense where they hard hedge and it really is leaving men free constantly and I'm having unconsteted three point shots time and time again. Due to this I'm finding the game too easy to win matches on hof and it shouldn't be that easy.

I really hope a patch is released for this shortly, I'm not one of these people who like to moan and I really appreciate the work 2k do and think apart from this the game is brilliant. However with this defense it really is hindering the experience.

Nice post, and I agree. I can see what the developers are trying to accomplish and I appreciate their ambition. But the logic/coding just isnt quite ready for some of it.

These two issues, especially the double team logic, do make for a borderline game breaking off-line experience. (I hate to say game breaking, its used too much on these forums, but the game essentially leaves people wide open all over the floor. It would be like a football game making a corner blitz every play leaving a WR wide open)

[mongo13clikke]

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100% agree with all this. It's actually bordering on game breaking for me.

In MyCareer it is. I thought it got better with 1.04, but its gotten worse again with 1.05. Especially in MyCareer, some Double Teams are just beyond stupid. 2k should either turn it off if possible somehow for now or fix it asap.

[ch46647]

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The concerning factor is they have mentioned double team improvements since patch 3 but it's still as bad as it was at launch.

This tells me it is probably not an easy fix. I'd like to see them disable it all together. Or atleast make it only trigger in pick and roll situations with the pick man defender as the double team.

[sperlz_99]

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I may have a fix for this but I'm going to test it and see how I get on. Each team has a defensive setting called help defense so I'm going to turn this right down for my opponent and see if it makes a difference

[sperlz_99]

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Nope doesn't make a difference

[Yesh2kdone]

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My glass cleaner center gets double teamed as soon as i go into a post up animation. I play on HoF, and it's just happened on the first possession of the game with the scores at 0-0. Yay!

[neoncross]

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We can complain all we want and make posts but it's clear that the minds at 2k won't do anything about the moronic double teams. They were proud to implement it in the first place so why would they remove it.

[meccs]

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It's the same, they even started double teaming me in practice mode.