Madden NFL 17 Title Update #7 Available Now, Here Are The Details

[mtmetcalfe]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #7 Available Now, Here Are The Details

Don't go off of others perspective, play the game yourself and make your own judgement.

If there's an area you would like to see improved , Rex said present it in a plausible/applicable manner and they will look at it.
- I can 100% say when you present your thought in this manner, they will answer you.

Anyways, I set the Fumble Slider at 1 and got met in-air when diving over the pile at the goaline and fumbled with an edited 99 Carry RB, loved it!!!
- now got to find Carry thresholds that will work best on default and run with them.

Other people's perspectives are the only thing I'm going off because I don't plan on downloading it until QB acc is addressed.

[CleveCluby]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #7 Available Now, Here Are The Details

What is Clint's Twitter address or how to contact him.

[IcedCoffee1983]

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Do the other gameplay fixes in the update not apply to sim players, or what?

Or did you just need a lead-in for the "us vs them" monopoly rant?

I am a sim gamer, and nothing in this patch fixes the two issues most talked about among the sim community here (punting and QB acc) that popped up after the last patch.

An MUT gamer however would be pleased with this patch. Their chief issue (H2H) was patched in. Must be nice.

The reason the us vs them narrative has started on this board and others is because one group of gamers is feeling disenfranchised. If both groups were catered to, the narrative would have never existed. Regardless of how you feel about it, MUT functions clearly took priority this time and people feel burned about it. I'm glad you dont, but sim gamers do.

Also if they couldn't find the time to fix a major glitch in a patch that itself was created by a patch a month ago, I'm allowed to feel burned about it.

The fact that we are arguing about being able to punt a football properly in a football video game is indicative of failure by the creator of the game. We are not talking about stats being slightly off in the same engine and Sim gamers crying boo-hoo... we are talking about a football video game where punters literally can't punt a football.

If EA made a chess video game, but due to some glitches you couldn't perform the castle-ing move, yet at the same time they patch their chess game to include personalized chess pieces for micro-purchases, people would be upset.

Ipso-facto, people are upset.

[Hooe]

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The reason the us vs them narrative has started on this board and others is because one group of gamers is feeling disenfranchised.

The feeling is completely baseless.

All parts of the game except Draft Champions were directly touched with this title update, and all modes will benefit from the on-field core gameplay fixes which did make it into the update. Heck, Franchise even got a content update too with a bunch of new lines of commentary for Play The Moments, one of the more notable new Franchise features of this year's game. Not to mention some other Franchise-specific bug fixes.

It is unfortunate that the punting issue didn't get addressed in time for this update. But don't try to spin this into something it isn't. There is no "MUT vs sim" battle for attention at Tiburon in reality.

If EA made a chess video game, but due to some glitches you couldn't perform the castle-ing move

False equivalence. The CPU very much is still capable of punting the ball. Poorly in adverse weather conditions, sure. But they still execute the punt.

[roadman]

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What is Clint's Twitter address or how to contact him.

https://twitter.com/ClintOldenburg

[khaliib]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #7 Available Now, Here Are The Details

I asked Clint why punting wasn't fixed, and I stated we were dissapointed it wasn't fixed and linked to this thread.

Here was his response:

"@MrKevinPerry @EA_White @CMcLeod_EA I'm sorry u guys feel that way. finite time for fixes & must prioritize. Sometimes things must falloff"

I guess they didn't think CPU controlled teams being able to punt in a football game was important enough to fix. Also it would seem over a month was too "finite" to find time to fix it... Lastly, he affirmed what we already knew... they prioritize MUT over the concerns of the sim community.

Of course I am dissapointed yet another painfully obvious glitch in Madden made it through QA and will go unfixed... but I am not at all surprised.

If I had an exclusive license of a video game where MUT made me millions I'd ignore us too. And laugh all the way to the bank like they have since the tyranny of the exclusive licensing started a decade ago.

Same as it ever was.

The dev team has repeated several times over, the process they have to go through to find, recreate, test etc for a bug (their term) to be fixed over the years.

I see this response as a quick answer to a post that's been thrown at them a thousand times over and answered just as many times.

To take it as evidence that they don't care or has some hidden agenda is the type of stuff that pushes the dev team away from visiting such communities (per Rex).

A couple of years ago, there was "0" access to the dev team by the avg forum poster, zero!!!

I would hate for OS to be tagged as one of those communities to be avoided by the dev team because of post like this.

Just putting something out there to be mindful of, before we hit "Submit Reply".

[IcedCoffee1983]

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The feeling is completely baseless.

All parts of the game except Draft Champions were directly touched with this title update, and all modes will benefit from the on-field core gameplay fixes which did make it into the update. Heck, Franchise even got a content update too with a bunch of new lines of commentary for Play The Moments, one of the more notable new Franchise features of this year's game. Not to mention some other Franchise-specific bug fixes.

It is unfortunate that the punting issue didn't get addressed in time for this update. But don't try to spin this into something it isn't. There is no "MUT vs sim" battle for attention at Tiburon in reality.



False equivalence. The CPU very much is still capable of punting the ball. Poorly in adverse weather conditions, sure. But they still execute the punt.

Yeah you're right, it's not fair to engage in hyperbole, which I am in a lot of ways. I admit that.

There was some good content for CFM as well as MUT.

I will say though the "Sim vs MUT" battle is among the GAMERS, not Tiburon. Im sorry I should have been more clear on that point. I'm sure Tiburon just would not want to get into the narrative of the us vs them thing, but it is indeed happening. Madden gamers are becoming polarized and growing bitter about the "other sides effect on the game."

And no; the CPU is not capable of punting. (it's not actually adverse weather, the glitch occurs only during head on winds of 7-8+ MPH. Those wind conditions are common for people who play CFM's with outdoor teams) If the CPU were capable of punting, gamers wouldnt be sending angry Tweets and posting here about it. Also CleveCluby's head probably wouldn't be about to burst.

[roadman]

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The dev team has repeated several times over, the process they have to go through to find, recreate, test etc for a bug (their term) to be fixed over the years.

I see this response as a quick answer to a post that's been thrown at them a thousand times over and answered just as many times.

To take it as evidence that they don't care or has some hidden agenda is the type of stuff that pushes the dev team away from visiting such communities (per Rex).

A couple of years ago, there was "0" access to the dev team by the avg forum poster, zero!!!

I would hate for OS to be tagged as one of those communities to be avoided by the dev team because of post like this.

Just putting something out there to be mindful of, before we hit "Submit Reply".

This is very true and something to keep in mind.

This place used to have developers interacting with us until we couldn't act civilized with them and since then, nada, nothing.

Most of the discussion now takes place on Twitter and I think Twitter or OS or any other place on Social Media is a good place to hide behind a keyboard.

If you treat people with respect, they will treat you with respect.

It's that simple.

[jfsolo]

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This is very true and something to keep in mind.

This place used to have developers interacting with us until we couldn't act civilized with them and since then, nada, nothing.

Most of the discussion now takes place on Twitter and I think Twitter or OS or any other place on Social Media is a good place to hide behind a keyboard.

If you treat people with respect, they will treat you with respect.

It's that simple.

As great as it would be to have them here on a regular basis, it probably better that their interaction here is limited. Let's face it, things would go off the rails again for sure.

I do have to say that although I disagreed with a fair amount of what they chose to prioritize over the last couple of years, I could understand most of them. Bailing on the punt fix is a punch in the gut though.

[Hooe]

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And no; the CPU is not capable of punting.

Allow me to be overly pedantic for a moment:

I've played multiple seasons of Madden in an multi-user online Franchise at this point. I've seen the CPU punt the ball in outdoor games and into the wind plenty of times in said seasons.

The punts in these situations are shorter, absolutely, and that these punts can be unreasonably short relative to league averages is a balance issue that Tiburon should address. There are nevertheless still punts. I conclude via repeated first-hand observation that the CPU is plenty able to punt the ball. They possess that capability and they repeatedly and consistently utilize that tactic in the appropriate situations.

If the CPU were not capable of punting, the punter would never get on the field, be it because the CPU is calling plays poorly, the game crashing anytime the CPU ends up in 4th and long, or other reasons which would prevent the CPU from punting literally at all.

In the meantime while we wait for Tiburon to deliver a fix for this gameplay balance issue - that is literally all this is - you have several workaround options if this circumstance is offensive enough to hinder your total experience with the game:

• You can adjust the punting slider to make CPU punts consistently longer
• You can temporarily edit CPU punter Kick Power ratings before you play CPU teams outdoors
• You can adjust sliders to make playing offense vs CPU teams harder to compensate for shorter field position
• You can adjust sliders to make playing defense vs CPU teams harder to reduce CPU punting frequency

There are probably even more things you can do, but that's plenty enough with which to start.

[Smallville102001]

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So I just saw this and I have to say this looks pointless. Looks like the only real thing fixed was the wind arrow being backwards. What about QB accuracy? Or QB never running with the ball? Or kicking being to easy? Also how is this patch 7? I think this is more like patch 4. We got the day 1 patch a second patch not far after and then a patch in early October that did more good then bad with messing up things like QB accuracy and making kicking to easy. That was a little over 2 and a half months ago and we had not had a patch since. Oh forgot we had the patch that added new uniforms. Still that would be 5 then. So when did the other 2 happen?

[Smallville102001]

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Did they fix the issue where the TE randomly walks right through the QB after breaking the huddle & walking to the line of scrimmage?

Did they clean up the physics (ala Madden 16) so players aren't constantly walking through player's bodies, limbs fusing together, players rolling right through lineman's legs when they're engaged in an unbreakable 2 man blocking animation, etc..?

Did they address the trenches at all with players randomly warping into blocking animations, leaving their blocking assignments, etc..?

These are my biggest issues with the game.

Players walking through player's bodies I never see. I saw that all the time in like madden 15 but not 16 or 17.

[Smallville102001]

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I dont understand why the punt issue wasn't fixed when we were told it would be.

I also don't see the QB scramble in the patch notes either and we were told that it was going to be addressed in this patch as well.

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Odd thing was I never have had the punt issue. The shortest punt the CPU has never had vs me was like 25 yards and that is once in a blue moon and most of the CPU punts are 40-50 yards. When it comes to the scrambling thing I have only heard like one person say any thing about it was going to be fixed. So I don't know why or how people thought it was said that it was going to be fixed and also because that has been a issue for a few years and even got worse last year after patches I have a felling that it is a hard kind of thing to fix and would not be something they could fix with a patch.

[callmetaternuts]

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Quick and perhaps dumb question. People are talking using the OOB version. If you do that, what big changes are you missing? I know color rush and some stretch play tuning, but any other "game breakers" that were fixed?

For funsies, I went back to OOB and played skins vs rams in Play Now. Goff was 8 of 16 with 2 drops, 1 pick and 5 bad throws. He had 2-3 other high or outside throws that receivers hauled in but at least 5 of his throws were high, way off target, or way out front.

[roadman]

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So I just saw this and I have to say this looks pointless. Looks like the only real thing fixed was the wind arrow being backwards. What about QB accuracy? Or QB never running with the ball? Or kicking being to easy? Also how is this patch 7? I think this is more like patch 4. We got the day 1 patch a second patch not far after and then a patch in early October that did more good then bad with messing up things like QB accuracy and making kicking to easy. That was a little over 2 and a half months ago and we had not had a patch since. Oh forgot we had the patch that added new uniforms. Still that would be 5 then. So when did the other 2 happen?

QBA- Stated 2 weeks ago on Twitter that they were investigating. No way can a investigation from 2 weeks ago go to verify a bug, fix a bug, in-house house certification and console certification in two weeks.

QB Scramble- No fix. There was a glitch fixed on the user side of QB scrambles.

FG's too easy? I'm assuming that is what you were alluding to, about a week ago they said they would look into it and this was via Twitter.

The last title update was the beginning of October. The next one will be in December/January,