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  • timhere1970
    MVP
    • Sep 2013
    • 1810

    #1

    New franchise or move on from madden?

    I am heading into 2036 season in my franchise. It has been enjoyable for the most part with many dissapointments along the way. I am getting bored. This is not unusual as this is the normal point at which I get bored with madden. With the 30 year franchise limit going through the draft realizing I will not get to see these guys's career play out I lose interest.

    The question is whether I can start a new franchise and remain interested. I would like some ideas on how to do this. One idea I have is getting rid of the salary cap. I think this will mean each team can spend what ever available funds they have. This would create some power house teams that will suck up free agents like the Yankees but leaving some small markets doomed to mediocrity at best. Is this how it works? Has anybody done this? Would there be any difference between doing this as an owner versus as a coach? If I took over a mid market team would it actually mean ten years down the road some large market teams would have higher overalls than me?

    Any other ideas that would lead to a different experience the second time through?
  • timhere1970
    MVP
    • Sep 2013
    • 1810

    #2
    Re: New franchise or move on from madden?

    Originally posted by Infamous_Horse
    I thought they got rid of the Season limit since there are random draft classes instead of just 30 planned out ones.
    I have never heard that. Maybe I need to simulate thirty years to find out. Maybe get time on Monday to try it.

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    • underdog13
      MVP
      • Apr 2012
      • 3222

      #3
      Re: New franchise or move on from madden?

      If you are a sim only guy I would recommend getting madden 04 for pc. Great for siming seasons and you get to edit draft classes before the draft. Plus so many more things.

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      • timhere1970
        MVP
        • Sep 2013
        • 1810

        #4
        Re: New franchise or move on from madden?

        Originally posted by underdog13
        If you are a sim only guy I would recommend getting madden 04 for pc. Great for siming seasons and you get to edit draft classes before the draft. Plus so many more things.

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        I am not a sim only guy. I play four games a season, week 4, 8, 12 and 16. Sometimes week 17 instead of 16 if I got the number one position locked up and want to play with my backups. I also do play the moments part of the game in the playoffs because siming (advancing week without going into game) playoff games results in losses the overwhelming majority of the time regardless of team talent. I enjoy playing the game but also want to get through many seasons and go for records.

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        • J.Cole
          Rookie
          • May 2016
          • 128

          #5
          Re: New franchise or move on from madden?

          Originally posted by timhere1970
          I am not a sim only guy. I play four games a season, week 4, 8, 12 and 16. Sometimes week 17 instead of 16 if I got the number one position locked up and want to play with my backups. I also do play the moments part of the game in the playoffs because siming (advancing week without going into game) playoff games results in losses the overwhelming majority of the time regardless of team talent. I enjoy playing the game but also want to get through many seasons and go for records.
          Well Madden 2004's gameplay is also pretty good and doesn't have weird sim results in the playoffs.

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          • timhere1970
            MVP
            • Sep 2013
            • 1810

            #6
            Re: New franchise or move on from madden?

            Originally posted by Infamous_Horse
            I thought they got rid of the Season limit since there are random draft classes instead of just 30 planned out ones.
            I can confirm it only goes 30 years.

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            • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
              MVP
              • Dec 2009
              • 4682

              #7
              Re: New franchise or move on from madden?

              Originally posted by timhere1970
              I can confirm it only goes 30 years.
              I have yet to get past 5 or 6 in the last 10 or so iterations of Madden due to the commentary not adjusting to the changing league. If I play with, say Blaine Gabbert, and through 2020-2023 I set a bunch of records, I want to hear how Blaine Gabbert is a record setting QB in the 2024 season, rather the same old thing about where he was drafted from and that he is a QB "with some experience" or whatever the comment used to be.

              If I'm the Browns in 2027 and suddenly my offense is as dominant as the 1950s Browns was, I want to hear about it.

              But Madden seems more content to add commentary based on the real NFL for casual play rather than for Franchise mode. Certainly a positive step, but a positive step in the wrong direction, IMHO.
              Originally posted by Therebelyell626
              I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
              https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

              Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

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              • timhere1970
                MVP
                • Sep 2013
                • 1810

                #8
                Re: New franchise or move on from madden?

                Originally posted by ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
                I have yet to get past 5 or 6 in the last 10 or so iterations of Madden due to the commentary not adjusting to the changing league. If I play with, say Blaine Gabbert, and through 2020-2023 I set a bunch of records, I want to hear how Blaine Gabbert is a record setting QB in the 2024 season, rather the same old thing about where he was drafted from and that he is a QB "with some experience" or whatever the comment used to be.

                If I'm the Browns in 2027 and suddenly my offense is as dominant as the 1950s Browns was, I want to hear about it.

                But Madden seems more content to add commentary based on the real NFL for casual play rather than for Franchise mode. Certainly a positive step, but a positive step in the wrong direction, IMHO.

                For sure. My qb has the all time td pass record and everytime he throws a td for the first time in a game they talk about how he just set the all time record even though he set it years ago. Unfortunately, I think we are a decade away from the commentary being Abe to adjust to circumstances.

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                • timhere1970
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 1810

                  #9
                  Re: New franchise or move on from madden?

                  Started a Browns franchise with no salary cap. After year one the highest rated free agents were 78's. So far, seems like everybody is just going to resign all their good players. Will see if that remains true in future years.

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                  • boxboy99
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 2320

                    #10
                    Re: New franchise or move on from madden?

                    Originally posted by timhere1970
                    For sure. My qb has the all time td pass record and everytime he throws a td for the first time in a game they talk about how he just set the all time record even though he set it years ago. Unfortunately, I think we are a decade away from the commentary being Abe to adjust to circumstances.
                    Other than the players career stats, the historical data isn't even stored. With current gen systems it would be nice if the game had an almanac of data. This could be used to generate commentary for the future. Bonus points if the data an be exported to an online website. Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever see this feature.
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                    • shadowkaga
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 27

                      #11
                      Re: New franchise or move on from madden?

                      if you're on XB1, i can recommend raiderzveva and cwsapp's AFL fictional roster for a new experience.

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                      • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 4682

                        #12
                        Re: New franchise or move on from madden?

                        Originally posted by boxboy99
                        Other than the players career stats, the historical data isn't even stored. With current gen systems it would be nice if the game had an almanac of data. This could be used to generate commentary for the future. Bonus points if the data an be exported to an online website. Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever see this feature.
                        This hurts my heart because I know you're probably right.

                        Then again, these guys will actually respond to twitter questions. I've had conversations with Clint, Rex and several others. So maybe... just maybe...
                        Originally posted by Therebelyell626
                        I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
                        https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

                        Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

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                        • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 4682

                          #13
                          Re: New franchise or move on from madden?

                          Originally posted by timhere1970
                          I am heading into 2036 season in my franchise. It has been enjoyable for the most part with many dissapointments along the way. I am getting bored. This is not unusual as this is the normal point at which I get bored with madden. With the 30 year franchise limit going through the draft realizing I will not get to see these guys's career play out I lose interest.

                          The question is whether I can start a new franchise and remain interested. I would like some ideas on how to do this. One idea I have is getting rid of the salary cap. I think this will mean each team can spend what ever available funds they have. This would create some power house teams that will suck up free agents like the Yankees but leaving some small markets doomed to mediocrity at best. Is this how it works? Has anybody done this? Would there be any difference between doing this as an owner versus as a coach? If I took over a mid market team would it actually mean ten years down the road some large market teams would have higher overalls than me?

                          Any other ideas that would lead to a different experience the second time through?
                          The good news about random draft classes is you won't always see the same players.

                          So here's a suggestion: start over, but try to build an entirely different type of team. Just finished with an offensive juggernaut? See if you can emulate the 2002 Bucs. Hire you a Cover 2 coach and stack the defense.

                          Or try building a team around a super fast/agile quarterback. Maybe do a Willie Beaman franchise.

                          Or try creating a team that uses only nickle and dime defenses, with creative blitzing.

                          Or bring the true college spread hurry up to the NFL, and see what games feel like doing that.

                          Basically, the way you build your team can affect how the franchise feels.
                          Originally posted by Therebelyell626
                          I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
                          https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

                          Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

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