Recruiting Question

[wings95]

I was recruit t a CB from Louisiana, for the first five weeks my Sooners were number one. UCLA number two. I was between 1000-1200 points ahead. Week 6 all of a sudden I am loceked out. Strange since I was the only offer this guy had. I look at the pitches and play style went from B to a D+. I use a custom made 4-3 that is multiple. For weeks 6-13 I am still number one but locked out. By the way his other pitches were academics which OU was a B- and pro potential which I was a A+. Week 14 the Rajen Cagens offer and gain 900 points. My play style and theirs were identical. Week 14 my play style pitch goes to a C+. Weeks 6-14 I change my D play styles and I still can't get unlocked. He ended up going to "LA Tech. Anyone know how to keep
this from happening in the future?

[jello1717]

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I was recruit t a CB from Louisiana, for the first five weeks my Sooners were number one. UCLA number two. I was between 1000-1200 points ahead. Week 6 all of a sudden I am loceked out. Strange since I was the only offer this guy had. I look at the pitches and play style went from B to a D+. I use a custom made 4-3 that is multiple. For weeks 6-13 I am still number one but locked out. By the way his other pitches were academics which OU was a B- and pro potential which I was a A+. Week 14 the Rajen Cagens offer and gain 900 points. My play style and theirs were identical. Week 14 my play style pitch goes to a C+. Weeks 6-14 I change my D play styles and I still can't get unlocked. He ended up going to "LA Tech. Anyone know how to keep
this from happening in the future?

First I'll tell you why it happened.
Second I'll tell you how you can try to legitimately fix it.
Third I'll tell you how you can cheat the game to "fix" it. I highly recommend that you don't do this as it's cheap as hell, but it's your game so why should I care how you play it?

1. Play style has nothing to do with your playbook. It's all about stats. IE. a scrambler QB only cares about QB rushing yards, a pocket passer only cares about QB passing yards, and a balanced QB cares about the sum of both.

For your corner example, it's based on his type. Coverage guys only care about CB INTs, I believe hard hitters care about CB tackles (I'm not 100% sure on this), and balanced CBs care about the sum of both.

You can find out who wants what under the team pitches screen (or whatever it's called); the one that lists all of your school's pitches (IE. academic prestige, pro potential, etc). It tells you what stats you need for each type of player.

2. To fix this legitimately, get more of the stats you need. If it was a coverage CB, then get more picks by CBs. If it was a hard hitter, get more tackles (or whatever it is). etc.

3.

Spoiler

You can cheat it like this. The pitches are based on stats in your depth chart, not position. So, for example, if you had a hard hitter CB who wants tackles, then you could put your best tacklers (most likely LBs) in your CB depth chart and it'll count (it'll show up after you advance). Likewise, if you wanted a scrambler QB, but don't run with your QB, if you put your most prolific HB in your QB depth chart, then you can cheat the game into thinking you get lots of rushing yards from your QBs.

[wings95]

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First I'll tell you why it happened.
Second I'll tell you how you can try to legitimately fix it.
Third I'll tell you how you can cheat the game to "fix" it. I highly recommend that you don't do this as it's cheap as hell, but it's your game so why should I care how you play it?

1. Play style has nothing to do with your playbook. It's all about stats. IE. a scrambler QB only cares about QB rushing yards, a pocket passer only cares about QB passing yards, and a balanced QB cares about the sum of both.

For your corner example, it's based on his type. Coverage guys only care about CB INTs, I believe hard hitters care about CB tackles (I'm not 100% sure on this), and balanced CBs care about the sum of both.

You can find out who wants what under the team pitches screen (or whatever it's called); the one that lists all of your school's pitches (IE. academic prestige, pro potential, etc). It tells you what stats you need for each type of player.

2. To fix this legitimately, get more of the stats you need. If it was a coverage CB, then get more picks by CBs. If it was a hard hitter, get more tackles (or whatever it is). etc.

3.

Spoiler

You can cheat it like this. The pitches are based on stats in your depth chart, not position. So, for example, if you had a hard hitter CB who wants tackles, then you could put your best tacklers (most likely LBs) in your CB depth chart and it'll count (it'll show up after you advance). Likewise, if you wanted a scrambler QB, but don't run with your QB, if you put your most prolific HB in your QB depth chart, then you can cheat the game into thinking you get lots of rushing yards from your QBs.

Thanks. Will try and get better stats. If play style does not matter than why have it as a pitch.

[FarFromEer]

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Also to clarify, the recruit has "playing style" as a deal breaker, doesn't he. That's why you are locked out. That's the bigger issue here. He wants to know that his style of play fits your scheme. You wouldn't see a pocket passer ever interested in going to Georgia Tech to run the triple option.


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[wings95]

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Also to clarify, the recruit has "playing style" as a deal breaker, doesn't he. That's why you are locked out. That's the bigger issue here. He wants to know that his style of play fits your scheme. You wouldn't see a pocket passer ever interested in going to Georgia Tech to run the triple option.


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Yes I forgot to add the deal breaker part. I just found it odd that I started as B- and than went do a D than back to an C+

[jello1717]

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Thanks. Will try and get better stats. If play style does not matter than why have it as a pitch.

If you're referring to this:

Play style has nothing to do with your playbook. It's all about stats.

I said that your playbook doesn't matter for play style and it makes total sense. Let's use QBs as an example again. Just because you run the flexbone, that doesn't mean that you will run with your QB. Maybe you pass the ball a lot. Maybe you almost always give it to your A and B backs. A scrambling QB that cares about playing style wants to get to run the ball a lot. If you rarely let him do that, then he's not interested in your playing style.

I think you're getting hung up on equating "playing style" with "playbook style." Every playbook has runs and passes in it. You can always choose to call tons of passing plays in option playbooks or scramble all the time with an air raid playbook. On top of that, maybe you just suck at it. That pocket passing recruit wants to go to a school where he can pass for a lot of yards. If your program throws a lot, but just sucks at it and isn't very effective, why would he want to go there?

[wings95]

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If you're referring to this:
I said that your playbook doesn't matter for play style and it makes total sense. Let's use QBs as an example again. Just because you run the flexbone, that doesn't mean that you will run with your QB. Maybe you pass the ball a lot. Maybe you almost always give it to your A and B backs. A scrambling QB that cares about playing style wants to get to run the ball a lot. If you rarely let him do that, then he's not interested in your playing style.

I think you're getting hung up on equating "playing style" with "playbook style." Every playbook has runs and passes in it. You can always choose to call tons of passing plays in option playbooks or scramble all the time with an air raid playbook. On top of that, maybe you just suck at it. That pocket passing recruit wants to go to a school where he can pass for a lot of yards. If your program throws a lot, but just sucks at it and isn't very effective, why would he want to go there?

I understand that. My thing was that it started out in the B's than went to a D+ than up to a C+. I think it is the stats thing. Same season I also was home team but Texas had recruits visit also in the same week while playing them. Two of the three that visited UT in week 10 committed to them even though I was the home team. Never saw that before.

[rollinphat]

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Same season I also was home team but Texas had recruits visit also in the same week while playing them. Two of the three that visited UT in week 10 committed to them even though I was the home team. Never saw that before.

it was a neutral site game wasn't it?
the game doesn't care who the home team is for them as both teams can invite recruits to it

[jello1717]

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I understand that. My thing was that it started out in the B's than went to a D+ than up to a C+. I think it is the stats thing.

Yes, it's your play style. It (like most pitches) is a dynamic grade. It dropped to D+ because your CBs weren't getting INTs (if it was a coverage guy) while other teams' CBs were. It went up to C+ because in the previous week your CBs got some INTs.

It's really basic. If your team does the things well that the recruit also wants to do well (HBs that want your HBs to get lots of yards, WRs that want your WRs to get lots of yards, your TEs that want you to throw for a lot of yards to your TEs, DEs that want your DEs to get a lot of sacks, LBs that want your LBs to get a lot of tackles, etc, etc) then you'll have a good grade. If your team isn't good at doing what they want to do well (that HB wants lots of rushing yards, but you don't give it to your HBs often, that TE that wants to get lots of yards, but your team doesn't throw to the TE often, that DE that wants to get lots of sacks, but your team doesn't put the DEs into position to get lots of sacks, etc, etc) then you'll have a bad grade for that pitch.

[wings95]

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it was a neutral site game wasn't it?
the game doesn't care who the home team is for them as both teams can invite recruits to it

Ok. TY. I have played lots of seasons as OU and have never seen it. Just wondering