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  • Generative James
    VideoGame PseudoScientist
    • Jun 2016
    • 463

    #226
    Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

    I'd like to see more Context Specific transitions and more Grapple Strike Counters. These can help give the grappling more of a scramble feel.
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    • WarMMA
      MVP
      • Apr 2016
      • 4612

      #227
      Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

      Originally posted by Generative James
      I'd like to see more Context Specific transitions and more Grapple Strike Counters. These can help give the grappling more of a scramble feel.
      They need to add countering ground strikes into submissions for some fighters...the good submission fighters in particular. This was in UD3 and added a whole new layer of strategy for/against good ground guys. You had to be very careful not to go to crazy with your gnp against certain fighters like Big Nog or Maia, cuz being postured up didn't mean you were safe from their submissions. If you were in their guard or half guard, you had to be wary of submissions at all times. But I feel like this could be done through the grapple strike countering system too. Just like you flick the stick left/right to arm trap, instead you would hold down the submission modifier(L2/LT) and flick the stick left/right to counter the strike into a submission attempt.

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      • Generative James
        VideoGame PseudoScientist
        • Jun 2016
        • 463

        #228
        Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

        Originally posted by WarMMA
        They need to add countering ground strikes into submissions for some fighters...the good submission fighters in particular. This was in UD3 and added a whole new layer of strategy for/against good ground guys. You had to be very careful not to go to crazy with your gnp against certain fighters like Big Nog or Maia, cuz being postured up didn't mean you were safe from their submissions. If you were in their guard or half guard, you had to be wary of submissions at all times. But I feel like this could be done through the grapple strike countering system too. Just like you flick the stick left/right to arm trap, instead you would hold down the submission modifier(L2/LT) and flick the stick left/right to counter the strike into a submission attempt.
        Yes! Add these Submission Strike Counters along with Punches for defense during Submissions and Submission Releases for the attacker to bail on the sub for a positional improvement.

        There is a Context Specific armbar from Back Mount already in the game, too bad it leads to a HUGE bug. But I would like to see more of this idea, Context Specific Submissions.

        For example, I wish the current Grapple Strike Counter from Submissive Back Mount to Standing where you shake your opponent off your back was a normal transition but that there was a Context Specific Armbar there for the guy being shucked off to snatch your limb on your way out.

        Or keep the original shake off a Grapple Strike Counter and have the armbar be a "Submission Grapple Strike Counter Counter"!
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        • TreJayMMA
          Pro
          • Jul 2016
          • 711

          #229
          Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

          I just want the body triangle in the game

          Draws (it can be turned off in online/competitive play. So that shuts down the argument that people don't want to have draws in online)

          Doctor Stoppages (can be turned off in online/competitive. This also shuts down the argument that people don't want to end a fight on doctor stoppages online)
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          • Kasel
            Banned
            • Apr 2016
            • 351

            #230
            Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

            Originally posted by TreJayMMA
            Draws (it can be turned off in online/competitive play. So that shuts down the argument that people don't want to have draws in online)
            Wait I don't understand, draws even happen in freaking title fights, so why would anyone want it gone in ranked?

            Draws should be a thing in every game mode in offline and online.

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            • TreJayMMA
              Pro
              • Jul 2016
              • 711

              #231
              Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

              Originally posted by Kasel
              Wait I don't understand, draws even happen in freaking title fights, so why would anyone want it gone in ranked?

              Draws should be a thing in every game mode in offline and online.
              Yeah exactly

              But a while ago when i brought it up, i think a game changer said that "the problem is that someone would be disappointed if a title fight or a regular fight got stopped by draw or doctor stoppage" and i think that's just a horrid excuse for not having it in the game when there's a lot of work arounds around it

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              • connolls
                Rookie
                • Mar 2016
                • 99

                #232
                Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

                Originally posted by TreJayMMA
                Yeah exactly

                But a while ago when i brought it up, i think a game changer said that "the problem is that someone would be disappointed if a title fight or a regular fight got stopped by draw or doctor stoppage" and i think that's just a horrid excuse for not having it in the game when there's a lot of work arounds around it

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                Yeah I'd rather draw in a close fight with someone than have the decision done by flipping a coin.

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                • Skynet
                  EA Sports UFC Developer
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 703

                  #233
                  Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

                  Originally posted by TreJayMMA
                  Yeah exactly

                  But a while ago when i brought it up, i think a game changer said that "the problem is that someone would be disappointed if a title fight or a regular fight got stopped by draw or doctor stoppage" and i think that's just a horrid excuse for not having it in the game when there's a lot of work arounds around it

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                  Honestly in the past the biggest reason they were not in is because there's actually a lot of work involved in almost every area of the game to support draws, and the bang for buck was truly not worth it.

                  While I would love to have had draws in the game, there were bigger fish to fry with what time we had. I mean, ideally they happen rarely, and even then there will be people who don't want them. So we would be spending a ton of resources for a feature that almost never happens and would even anger some players when it did....so we didn't.

                  I recall one time sending out a small video to the team, internally of course, of an incredible double-KO which it soo awesome. Alas, that was the last time it would happen.

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                  • zeric
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2016
                    • 700

                    #234
                    Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

                    Originally posted by TreJayMMA
                    Yeah exactly

                    But a while ago when i brought it up, i think a game changer said that "the problem is that someone would be disappointed if a title fight or a regular fight got stopped by draw or doctor stoppage" and i think that's just a horrid excuse for not having it in the game when there's a lot of work arounds around it

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                    Doctor stoppages are rare in real life. Like super rare in modern mma. And the problem with draws means you would have to add 10-8 rounds. This game struggles to pick the correct winner of one sided 10-9 rounds i seriously dont want to see the result if you had to add another factor into the horrendous judging they use now.

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                    • zeric
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2016
                      • 700

                      #235
                      Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

                      Originally posted by connolls
                      Yeah I'd rather draw in a close fight with someone than have the decision done by flipping a coin.
                      Draws dont work like that in real life. If 3 rounds are close you wont see a draw. Draws happen when fighter 1 wins a 10-8 and fighter two wins 2 10-9 rounds.

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                      • zeric
                        Pro
                        • Aug 2016
                        • 700

                        #236
                        Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

                        And 10-10 rounds literslly never happen so that should not be a thing

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                        • kevinmastah
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 152

                          #237
                          Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

                          Woodley - Thompson I was a draw.
                          Hope the devs find some solution for correct scoring the fights!

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                          • Freakywwe
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 845

                            #238
                            Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

                            Originally posted by zeric
                            And 10-10 rounds literslly never happen so that should not be a thing
                            There is no such thing as 10-10 rounds in MMA

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                            • connolls
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 99

                              #239
                              Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

                              Originally posted by zeric
                              Draws dont work like that in real life. If 3 rounds are close you wont see a draw. Draws happen when fighter 1 wins a 10-8 and fighter two wins 2 10-9 rounds.
                              Yeah I know, I understand that draws would be difficult to implement but it would be nice if it was possible to pull back a draw after losing the first two rounds and come out and dominate in the third. Not really a huge issue I suppose with how rare they are and how difficult it would be to set up.

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                              • Haz____
                                Omaewa mou shindeiru
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 4023

                                #240
                                Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

                                Originally posted by Skynet
                                Honestly in the past the biggest reason they were not in is because there's actually a lot of work involved in almost every area of the game to support draws, and the bang for buck was truly not worth it.

                                While I would love to have had draws in the game, there were bigger fish to fry with what time we had. I mean, ideally they happen rarely, and even then there will be people who don't want them. So we would be spending a ton of resources for a feature that almost never happens and would even anger some players when it did....so we didn't.

                                I recall one time sending out a small video to the team, internally of course, of an incredible double-KO which it soo awesome. Alas, that was the last time it would happen.
                                The problem is that Draws are still in the game, but the game just assigns a random winner when it happens...

                                That's so much worse for competitive gameplay than just giving a draw.
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