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  • primo_80
    Rookie
    • Apr 2011
    • 29

    #181
    Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

    I want to see contextually appropriate animations, adjustments based on body position. Like when a receiver is running towards the sidelines, he just keeps running during the catch instead of trying to square up to face the ball.

    I just want the receivers to react how a skilled pro is trained to. Things like when to break stride, variations in route running mechanics, opening hips to face the ball, catching with the body vs hands are all considerations that aren't represented. I hate seeing that catch animation where the player is running a drag, the ball is thrown behind, and his inside leg is forward while he reaches up and back to make the catch. It is so ugly and I'm always thinking how difficult you make it for yourself doing that. That example should be a low success rate catch animation that good receivers don't attempt.

    Make effort and urgency visible in animations - sprinting, quick adjustments, fumble recoveries.

    One last thing is the juking system is brutal. It's impossible to represent with heat-seeking defenders. You have to be able to freeze opponents from further away with changes of direction and not just running into them, pressing juke, and hoping you get the animation.

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    • jerwoods
      MVP
      • Jan 2009
      • 3002

      #182
      Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

      1 Smarter AI in the 2-min drill
      2 i like the FG system but if u are off by .01 u miss evan a 30 yarder
      3 easier punt return

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      • SamDezzy43
        Rookie
        • Apr 2013
        • 152

        #183
        Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

        Originally posted by roadman
        Someone mentioned last year it was around May 9th when a trailer dropped.

        Otherwise, we will get crumbs at EA play.
        Cover annoucement and initial trailer was May 12th last year, so we are close!
        As far as EA Play goes, we usually find out just about everything there don't we? As far as main features etc. And some gameplay footage (hopefully)

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        • DeuceDouglas
          Madden Dev Team
          • Apr 2010
          • 4297

          #184
          Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

          I'll copy this from the Dev Tweets thread:

          <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/ClintOldenburg">@ClintOldenburg</a> how soon are we to getting madden 18 trailer?</p>&mdash; Andrew Kilmer (@Drew_GT91) <a href="https://twitter.com/Drew_GT91/status/859128116991721478">May 1, 2017</a></blockquote.</script>
          <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/Drew_GT91">@Drew_GT91</a> Late-June most likely</p>&mdash; Clint Oldenburg (@ClintOldenburg) <a href="https://twitter.com/ClintOldenburg/status/859224880662933505">May 2, 2017</a></blockquote.</script>
          Could be nothing, could be something. We've gotten first look trailers around this time for the last couple years and full trailers have been released at E3 or EAPlay for as long as I can remember so the late-June timeline seems a bit odd. Hopefully we'll get the usual bombardment around EAPlay time.

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          • Valaskjalf
            Rookie
            • Oct 2015
            • 44

            #185
            Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

            Originally posted by primo_80
            I want to see contextually appropriate animations, adjustments based on body position. Like when a receiver is running towards the sidelines, he just keeps running during the catch instead of trying to square up to face the ball.

            I just want the receivers to react how a skilled pro is trained to. Things like when to break stride, variations in route running mechanics, opening hips to face the ball, catching with the body vs hands are all considerations that aren't represented. I hate seeing that catch animation where the player is running a drag, the ball is thrown behind, and his inside leg is forward while he reaches up and back to make the catch. It is so ugly and I'm always thinking how difficult you make it for yourself doing that. That example should be a low success rate catch animation that good receivers don't attempt.

            Make effort and urgency visible in animations - sprinting, quick adjustments, fumble recoveries.

            One last thing is the juking system is brutal. It's impossible to represent with heat-seeking defenders. You have to be able to freeze opponents from further away with changes of direction and not just running into them, pressing juke, and hoping you get the animation.
            I just hope this whole Frostbite change-over doesnt give EA the impression that a visual/animation overhaul is a big enough of a change that they don't fix more of the other issues.

            I could handle it if they didnt do a single thing to the visuals/animations and focused on only gameplay / improvements to CFM

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            • Mattanite
              MVP
              • Sep 2015
              • 1716

              #186
              Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

              Originally posted by Valaskjalf
              I just hope this whole Frostbite change-over doesnt give EA the impression that a visual/animation overhaul is a big enough of a change that they don't fix more of the other issues.

              I could handle it if they didnt do a single thing to the visuals/animations and focused on only gameplay / improvements to CFM


              I think with the success of Fifa's the journey then the top bods at EA could likely push for that in Madden. It could likely rival NBA2ks MyCareer but I can't see how a Madden Journey/Superstar could do anything like MyPark so it would be limited.


              I would agree that the new engine will likely be touted as a big back of box feature and shadow over some other features. We might hopefully see a split of Madden-bowl and Sim-style sliders as the dev team has hinted this is a direction they might want to go.


              For gameplay, I'd settle for O-Line-D-Line interaction, further fine tuning of M16 defensive improvements, full team true step and off ball injuries. Is this a reasonable amount of improvement to expect in 1 year?


              For Franchise, anything less than scrapping CFM (which could happen if Journey/Superstar happens) and rebuilding it to include a LOT more features (chemistry, morale, badges/expanded attributes, offseasons, coach carousel etc) I would view as a disservice to those screaming for changes to Franchise where big improvements have not happened since M12. Whilst I would love to protest and not buy M18 if this doesn't happen, not buying would also mean losing my online league so I feel a bit stuck there.
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              • Mattanite
                MVP
                • Sep 2015
                • 1716

                #187
                Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

                Originally posted by Geodude
                It could likely rival NBA2ks MyCareer but I can't see how a Madden Journey/Superstar could do anything like MyPark so it would be limited.
                Well, unless they surprise us all and have built a sort of 5 on 5 street/arena-football game where all the players are two way players and have:
                QB - RB - WR - WR - TE
                vs
                DB/S - LB - DB - DB - DE


                One pass rusher who can choose to QB spy vs one TE who can block or catch. Two WR vs two DBs who switch sides and a RB vs LB who switch also. The QB would play a safety style spot at the back. It would be tight and quick, 4 downs to score across the whole mini-field (say 30 yards). It would be hilarious and produce Rocket League like moments haha.
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                • roadman
                  *ll St*r
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 26339

                  #188
                  Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

                  Originally posted by SamDezzy43
                  Cover annoucement and initial trailer was May 12th last year, so we are close!
                  As far as EA Play goes, we usually find out just about everything there don't we? As far as main features etc. And some gameplay footage (hopefully)
                  Teaser was May 12th and trailer will be late June according to Clint.

                  I just remember last years EA Play and the people there had to wait to upload game play and couldn't say much on the videos until later than that.

                  I think we knew about features by then.

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                  • kyle81
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 105

                    #189
                    Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

                    Originally posted by roadman
                    Teaser was May 12th and trailer will be late June according to Clint.

                    I just remember last years EA Play and the people there had to wait to upload game play and couldn't say much on the videos until later than that.

                    I think we knew about features by then.
                    We had the blog for zones on May 18. I'm guessing they're waiting on EA Play to do announce features and stuff, but this is the coolest I've ever seen an EA Title go without trying to build up some kind of hype. The game realeases in less than 4 months.

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                    • 4thQtrStre5S
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 3051

                      #190
                      Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

                      I am not the first to mention this, but since I just got MLB The Show 2017 this past week, I just wanna say that I hope Madden goes along with the story scenario like that of The Show's Road to the Show.

                      I can't stop playing this game mode.

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                      • noplace
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 2121

                        #191
                        Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

                        I’d like to see a new ratings system in Madden by using a mix between combine stats and All Pro 2K’s system. Get rid of 1-99 ratings and replace them with 40 times, bench, verticals, broad jump, cone etc. Ratings really need to matter..

                        Also would like to see unique running styles and animations for all players but especially the RB’s, DB’s and WR’s. Needs to be a lot more organic its 2017 EA

                        Better line play still don’t have short yardage/goal line OL blocking.

                        Please fix the QB AI with the scrambling issue.

                        Player assignments and match-ups. I want to be able to take certain players out of the game prior and during gameplay. Double teams on DL, edge rushers on offense and shadowing players on defense. Of course ratings will really need to matter for this to be beneficial

                        Custom camera’s love the Zoom but it needs to zoom out after snap to see more of the field on running plays.
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                        • tnixen
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 3184

                          #192
                          Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

                          I just want no more stiff robotic running animations that have been in the game since the PS3 versions!

                          I want to see completely redone running animations with true to life body movement physics!
                          Last edited by tnixen; 05-11-2017, 04:10 PM.

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                          • 4thQtrStre5S
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 3051

                            #193
                            Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

                            I am thinking I would like to see dynamic difficulty in M18. So far I like it in MLB 17 .

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                            • Senator Palmer
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 3314

                              #194
                              Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

                              A comprehensive arsenal of defensive line stunts: E/T, T/E, T/T, Pirate, etc. Preferably I'd like to be able to call them apart from the coverage, but I'd settle for some sort of hot route system.

                              I'd also like for ALL of the new coverages like Match and Mable to be available in the Wide-9 set.
                              "A man can only be beaten in two ways: if he gives up, or if he dies."

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                              • Toupal
                                MVP
                                • May 2014
                                • 1296

                                #195
                                Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

                                I want to see an improvement in DB/ WR interaction. I feel like all receivers play alike, and for receivers this isn't especially true.

                                You won't throw a jump ball to Julian Edlemen on Patrick Peterson and expect him to win. However, I want to see dominant Julio Jones and AJ Green type receivers "outman" corners and come down with amazing circus catches and jump balls.

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