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  • awg811
    Pro
    • Jul 2009
    • 768

    #1

    There appears to be no skill gap ONLINE anymore.

    I'm playing with a group of guys that for 2 straight years have been less than good to put it mildly.
    This year they can do all the same stupid s#!t they have always done only this year it works.
    Bad contested shots, bad contested layups, going up against 4 people under the rim, missing wide open teammates, even making free throws, it doesn't matter.

    I guess I shouldn't complain since I'm getting easy wins, but 2k always talks about "skill gap" and I've yet to see it.

    And then there's the 7'3" center.
    If you have a guy that you run with that can't do anything right, just have him make a 7'3" center.
    As long as he gets out of the paint within 8 seconds he should dominate.

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  • Rockie_Fresh88
    Lockdown Defender
    • Oct 2011
    • 9621

    #2
    Re: There appears to be no skill gap ONLINE anymore.

    Still don’t understand why the height cap for centers online is 7’3 , when most 7’3 centers can barely stay on a nba roster. Not even that many of them to begin with.
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    • Marvlus91
      Rookie
      • Jul 2014
      • 415

      #3
      Re: There appears to be no skill gap ONLINE anymore.

      I swear I was ready to post a thread last night when me and my high IQ team mates was getting killed by some low iq dudes just forcing bad off balance shots, zig zagging behind picks. There’s absolutely NO skills gap. Trash dudes still get rewarded for steal spamming, dribble spamming, bad shots going in, centers rebounding over three guys and going right up with it and making it smh skills gap my a** 2k

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      • iTofu
        Rookie
        • Aug 2009
        • 293

        #4
        There appears to be no skill gap ONLINE anymore.

        Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
        Still don’t understand why the height cap for centers online is 7’3 , when most 7’3 centers can barely stay on a nba roster. Not even that many of them to begin with.
        I’ve always found it weird that 2K’s Pro-Am mode favored lineups with 2 slow 7’+ players the last two years and 7’3” 340lb centers this year when the NBA has trended toward switching defenses with versatile multitalented centers. The most feared lineups in the NBA the last few years have featured Draymond Green at center. I guess the availability of oversized players online is the difference, but it’s still strange when you think about it.
        Last edited by iTofu; 10-02-2017, 02:40 AM.

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        • Korrupted
          Pro
          • Nov 2015
          • 917

          #5
          Re: There appears to be no skill gap ONLINE anymore.

          Contested shots do go in at a high clip this year. I think 2k messed the ratings up big time. Your contested shot rating is higher than your open shot rating...which makes no sense to me whatsoever. 7'3's are incredible this year due to their speed. They get up and down the court just as fast as a forward or guard.

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          • DaltonT4
            Rookie
            • Aug 2009
            • 225

            #6
            Re: There appears to be no skill gap ONLINE anymore.

            Man I wish I felt the same way. I'm a 82 post scoring rebounding center and I can't hit anything when I get a rebound. I miss my layups, or I get blocked by a PG and then that same PG can still just run through me on a dunk attempt and dunk it even though I'm 330 pounds.

            I feel like I'm decent on the sticks as a big man as I've done it the last three years, but I feel like the game handicaps me because everyone just wants to dunk on you and 9/10 times I get dunked on. But yet when I go up for a layup I get blocked by a guy that bit on the pump fake and he's still able to block it on his way down.

            Don't even get me started on rebounds either, I'll be in perfect position and right now I just have bronze hustle rebounder but I'll get these SF that run out of nowhere and knock the rebound out of my hand and they get and put it back in no problem. I get a rebound and try to lay it up I miss it. It's just frustrating to me.


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            • Thrustie
              Pro
              • Sep 2016
              • 764

              #7
              Re: There appears to be no skill gap ONLINE anymore.

              Originally posted by iTofu
              I’ve always found it weird that 2K’s Pro-Am mode favored lineups with 2 slow 7’+ players the last two years and 7’3” 340lb centers this year when the NBA has trended toward switching defenses with versatile multitalented centers. The most feared lineups in the NBA the last few years have featured Draymond Green at center. I guess the availability of oversized players online is the difference, but it’s still strange when you think about it.
              I think it's just that 2K players don't know how to utilize small ball lineups and expose big plodding centers. Small ball lineups aren't universally better - you need the right personnel. Most players I see in 2K don't pass much or drive and kick. Also I think 2K gives bigs more of an advantage on rebounds then you'd see in real life. If I don't have another 7 footer on my team, I often pull down more boards than the rest of my team combined which inflates the value of having a giant center.

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              • Thrustie
                Pro
                • Sep 2016
                • 764

                #8
                Re: There appears to be no skill gap ONLINE anymore.

                Originally posted by Korrupted
                Contested shots do go in at a high clip this year. I think 2k messed the ratings up big time. Your contested shot rating is higher than your open shot rating...which makes no sense to me whatsoever. 7'3's are incredible this year due to their speed. They get up and down the court just as fast as a forward or guard.
                That's a stretch. I'm slow as hell up and down the court. My fastest animation is a light jog. I agree that 7'3 guys are too "quick" when moving around in small spaces but they're certainly not fast.

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                • ph33
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 3261

                  #9
                  Re: There appears to be no skill gap ONLINE anymore.

                  Originally posted by awg811
                  I'm playing with a group of guys that for 2 straight years have been less than good to put it mildly.
                  This year they can do all the same stupid s#!t they have always done only this year it works.
                  Bad contested shots, bad contested layups, going up against 4 people under the rim, missing wide open teammates, even making free throws, it doesn't matter.
                  I'm going to guess you didn't find those teammates here. LOL

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                  • Thetruth9012
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 1287

                    #10
                    Re: There appears to be no skill gap ONLINE anymore.

                    Me and my friends play small ball in Park.

                    We dont lose at all (215-50 record but this loses are for playing with randoms our team lost maybe 4 games)

                    But yes 7"3 recovery speed on defence is too much they can cover a lof ot ground.
                    2k18 fixes

                    Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

                    Late contest on laups matter too much.

                    Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

                    Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

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                    • reese45mc
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 42

                      #11
                      Re: There appears to be no skill gap ONLINE anymore.

                      I play on ps4 and only play Pro Am with my long time running mate and we get nothing but trash players who can't do anything all the time, so I don't know what you are talking about. We destroy teams with horrible team mates and lose because of them also. There are way too many low IQ kids playing this game and no way to get rid or around them from online games. There needs to be some kind of leveling up system and a grading system that doesn't give a PG who only passes to 1 or 2 people and goes 1 for 12 an A or better. This whole game is broken so i don't expect any of these things to ever be put in place in the near future

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                      • awg811
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 768

                        #12
                        Re: There appears to be no skill gap ONLINE anymore.

                        Originally posted by reese45mc
                        I play on ps4 and only play Pro Am with my long time running mate and we get nothing but trash players who can't do anything all the time, so I don't know what you are talking about. We destroy teams with horrible team mates and lose because of them also. There are way too many low IQ kids playing this game and no way to get rid or around them from online games. There needs to be some kind of leveling up system and a grading system that doesn't give a PG who only passes to 1 or 2 people and goes 1 for 12 an A or better. This whole game is broken so i don't expect any of these things to ever be put in place in the near future
                        There's a big difference between walk on randoms and a group of 5 people in party chat playing together.

                        What I am talking about isn't random walk on 12 year olds.


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                        • shirogohan
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2017
                          • 23

                          #13
                          Re: There appears to be no skill gap ONLINE anymore.

                          Definitely noticed this as well.

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                          • 24ct
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 884

                            #14
                            Re: There appears to be no skill gap ONLINE anymore.

                            Originally posted by Korrupted
                            Contested shots do go in at a high clip this year. I think 2k messed the ratings up big time. Your contested shot rating is higher than your open shot rating...which makes no sense to me whatsoever. 7'3's are incredible this year due to their speed. They get up and down the court just as fast as a forward or guard.
                            Nah your contested shot is only higher than your standing shot if you make your wingspan long. If you keep if default everything is equal. If you make it shorter your open shot will be higher. Which in reality makes sense (in theory). A player with longer arms should have an easier time shooting over ppl. A player with shorter arms should have a harder time shooting over ppl.

                            But as far as the skills gap. There's never a skills gap. The only gap is ppl who know how to use their build the most effective way vs ppl who don't.

                            As for contested shots going in. I don't really see that too often. And for me, I have my shot feedback on and a lot of times when a guy isn't hugging me on defense the game will consider it a light contest or even wide open sometimes. But I don't know what you guys are seeing. But I'm not really getting that skills gap thing. I play park and when I see someone with a record just as good as mine, I lock in. Sometimes they really know how to use their builds and sometimes they are really bad lol but personally I feel there is a slight skills gap.

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                            • 24ct
                              Pro
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 884

                              #15
                              Re: There appears to be no skill gap ONLINE anymore.

                              And if you're going into walk on without a team of at least 3 or 4 players and you expect to actually win or get decent players without getting them in a party chat or turning your mic on, you're foolish.

                              Ppl don't know your archetype just as you don't know there's which was silly for 2k to not put that on the screen where you see everyone's overall before the game. So until they see you make a few 3s, get a dunk or find the open man it's gonna be a wrap.

                              If I ever log in and go into walk in by myself when my friends are not on, I don't expect to get a bunch of players with high IQ so I take it in stride and try to win. Just like solo queing in any other video game.

                              There's been times I've started pro am as a PG and the randoms will let me run point after they see I'll pass. There's been times where I've started and the other team would literally freeze me out from the start because they were playing with each other or they are a squad (you can tell)

                              Either way if you having trouble with pro am and you only running with 2 ppl, go play park. OR. Make some friends on the game, it's not that hard tbh.

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