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  • Padgoi
    Banned
    • Oct 2008
    • 1874

    #1

    I loved this game when it first came out, but the patches have ruined it for me

    When the game first came out, I absolutely LOVED it. Hitting felt real. The ball seemed to actually go where it should based on my swing feedback. Home runs felt earned. Everything was on point and I was loving it.

    However, after the last few patches, it just seems like Show 17.5 again. The wild pitches are once again out of control. Catchers are MUCH quicker to the ball, but the runners get SUCH good jumps that you can't throw them out regardless. The rainbow throws are back. Rocket bunts are still a force out at second base regularly. Home runs going foul by two inches are back. CPU making web gems whenever they want are back. The outfield grass seems slower again, so those hard hit balls down the line that were PERFECT when the game was first released are now back to being like last year, when they slow down and result in singles. Hitting seems back to last year where the swing feedback means nothing. Home runs don't feel earned anymore, they feel handed to you. Hitting in general seems off again, like the user input isn't being taken into consideration enough and the game is dictating hit result. And the CPU rallies seem COMPLETELY fabricated again. Take this example last game.

    I'm locked in a 1-1 game with the Blue Jays. Eighth inning, Judge hits a homer and I go up 2-1. I was 3-0 at the time so I just KNEW something was going to happen. Next half inning, I bring in Robertson as the setup man. First batter can of corn, one out. Next batter is Pillar, clean single. He steals second. Next batter fielders choice, Pillar goes to third, two outs. Donaldson is up. I know the propensity for throwing wild pitches in this situation is ABSURDLY high in this game, so I am intentionally keeping the ball high and on the corners to prevent a wild pitch. Second pitch of the at bat, aiming high and outside, ball somehow bounces in dirt and scoots away from Sanchez. The ball got maybe 2 feet away from Sanchez, certainly not far enough to try to score, but Pillar takes off. Sanchez runs to the ball and I underhand the ball to my pitcher who SHOULD be covering, but for some reason, he decided he didn't want to on this particular pitch and the run scores. Situations like this feel completely scripted, as in there's almost NOTHING you can do to prevent the CPU from scoring and it's why the age old comeback discussion has come up every single year.

    Has anyone else noticed this regression since the patches have been released?
  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52641

    #2
    Re: I loved this game when it first came out, but the patches have ruined it for me

    No

    The gameplay has gotten better for me since they patched pitch speed and more so with this latest patch “unfreezing” infielders so that the user can actually field balls hit just over their head. I made my first leaping grab with an infielder just the other day.

    I also think that hitting has been more “pure” since the latest patch. Can’t really describe it other than it feels even better than it did out of the box which I felt was great.


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    • doubledeuceR6
      Ride on Kentucky Kid
      • Apr 2011
      • 1950

      #3
      Re: I loved this game when it first came out, but the patches have ruined it for me

      I still really enjoy the game. There are certainly frustrating moments and I do notice the differences after each patch.

      The wild pitch thing can be infuriating and its seems inevitable with runners on especially in a tight game.
      One thing I hate is the catcher will scoop any ball in the dirt with no one on but let there be a runner on and it seems it gets through and goes to the backstop every time.
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      • Gosens6
        All Star
        • Oct 2007
        • 6099

        #4
        Re: I loved this game when it first came out, but the patches have ruined it for me

        I'm actually having a blast with this game. After saying I wouldn't purchase this year because of a lack of franchise improvements, I'm so impressed with the gameplay, I'm more than happy with buying.

        I'm seeing more of a variety of hits than I've seen in any year previously, pitching is so completely satisfying for me, it might even be a little too easy. Last night I pitched a 2 hitter against the Jays with Luis Severino. I saw no wonkyness of the CPU being "scripted" to score, or the dreaded "6th inning comeback".

        The game is fun as hell. I was completely unimpressed with 17, but I can't stop playing 18

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        • JoshC1977
          All Star
          • Dec 2010
          • 11569

          #5
          Re: I loved this game when it first came out, but the patches have ruined it for me

          It was an amazing game at release; it is better even now.
          Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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          • Frostball
            Rookie
            • Dec 2014
            • 391

            #6
            I loved this game when it first came out, but the patches have ruined it for me

            To me the hitting felt better before the patches now it almost seems like 17. Before the patches I got hits down the line now I barely see any
            and it just doesn't feel the same as when the game first came out. Don't get me wrong I'm still having a blast playing it just feels different

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            • Detroit Tigers
              MVP
              • Mar 2018
              • 1369

              #7
              Re: I loved this game when it first came out, but the patches have ruined it for me

              Only thing bothering me is I almost never strike out. Literally playing on Legend with timing at zero and pitch speed at 8 to compensate and still seeing games with only 2-4 Ks. And it’s not like I’m some wizard at this game; making contact is just too damn easy.


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              • Caulfield
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 11043

                #8
                Re: I loved this game when it first came out, but the patches have ruined it for me

                I was disappointed when it came out (Because)of no season mode but I eventually warmed up to playing Franchise 100% instead of 50%.
                As for hitting I haven't had a drastically different experience post patches over release day Show. But that probably has more to do with my poor eyesight and even poorer hitting ability.
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                • KBLover
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 12211

                  #9
                  Re: I loved this game when it first came out, but the patches have ruined it for me

                  Don't really see much difference, honestly.

                  Game plays as it has for me. I haven't had the change approach at the plate or on the mound or anything about how I play.

                  As far as nothing you can do to keep the CPU from scoring...I don't know. I gave up 3 in the game I just finished, 1 the game before that. 2, 5, 2, 5 in my other games since the patch.

                  Average line for me: 34 AB, 3 R, 8 H, 3 RBI, 2 BB, 7 K, 2 2B, 0 3B, 1 HR.
                  Last edited by KBLover; 05-10-2018, 05:19 PM.
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                  • Kramer5150
                    Fear Me
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 7350

                    #10
                    Re: I loved this game when it first came out, but the patches have ruined it for me

                    https://forums.operationsports.com/f...-gameplay.html

                    I guess you forgot about your other thread stating pretty much the same thing.
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                    • KnightTemplar
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2017
                      • 3285

                      #11
                      Re: I loved this game when it first came out, but the patches have ruined it for me

                      Originally posted by Kramer5150
                      https://forums.operationsports.com/f...-gameplay.html

                      I guess you forgot about your other thread stating pretty much the same thing.
                      Yeah, appears somebody should just pack it in. 20-19 in my franchise and have loved every win, every loss. Don’t hear any lengthy complaints on comeback code when a person wins.
                      Last edited by KnightTemplar; 05-10-2018, 06:26 PM.

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                      • ericjwm
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1807

                        #12
                        Re: I loved this game when it first came out, but the patches have ruined it for me

                        The patches are changing way too much of the defined AI beyond release. I did happen to like 1.07 and now that is gone.
                        Have to say that changes to this resort should not be happening this far after release. The 1st week and maybe slightly beyond is okay.. anything else with the changing of pitch speeds,batter/pitcher AI, etc.. is uncalled for and not so professional to this point of difference.

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                        • Caulfield
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 11043

                          #13
                          Re: I loved this game when it first came out, but the patches have ruined it for me

                          Originally posted by KnightTemplar
                          Yeah, appears somebody should just pack it in. 20-19 in my franchise and have loved every win, every loss. Don’t hear any lengthy complaints on comeback code when a person wins.
                          Pfft.
                          I was losing 0-1 in the 6th inning a couple weeks back, hit a bloop & a blast, won 2-1.
                          Obviously some sort of human dna flaw. It made my whole weekend miserable. I almost made 4 threads lamenting human user comeback wins. But I have a workaround when I sense I might unrealistically comeback. I just hit triangle and rocket bunt my way out of danger. I mean, if I can't score first in the 1st or 2nd inning and win easily, it just feels all tainted and scripted. I went 31-131 for the season but I can hold my head high 'cause I got a buttload of integrity. And class.
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                          • countryboy
                            Growing pains
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 52641

                            #14
                            Re: I loved this game when it first came out, but the patches have ruined it for me

                            Originally posted by Caulfield
                            Pfft.
                            I was losing 0-1 in the 6th inning a couple weeks back, hit a bloop & a blast, won 2-1.
                            Obviously some sort of human dna flaw. It made my whole weekend miserable. I almost made 4 threads lamenting human user comeback wins. But I have a workaround when I sense I might unrealistically comeback. I just hit triangle and rocket bunt my way out of danger. I mean, if I can't score first in the 1st or 2nd inning and win easily, it just feels all tainted and scripted. I went 31-131 for the season but I can hold my head high 'cause I got a buttload of integrity. And class.




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                            • agentlaw13
                              Pro
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 557

                              #15
                              I loved this game when it first came out, but the patches have ruined it for me

                              I respectfully think it’s fair to make claims of the patches changing gameplay for better or worse . I, personally feel the patches have improved the game and I think it’s the best version of this game in a long time. I’m in love with the gameplay and every game is different and a challenge.

                              I mainly browse the slider and roster forums once the game is released, mainly because there’s more negative posts about an awesome game, that to me, has wayyyyy more positive than negatives.

                              Not saying the patches aren’t “ruining” the game for some, but I’m willing to bet if you just play the game and don’t venture into the main forum, you would be surprised how well this game plays.

                              Once you start reading about some of these issues, without seeing them for yourself in your own games, you will start looking for them to be there. Maybe they are, maybe they aren’t. But I think a lot of people read about these issues and they are looking for something in the game to pop up, when it might just be an anomaly within the game. Baseball is a complex and weird sport. I think it’s very hard to get all those odd things into a video game, but I think SCEA has done a great job with it this year and I think if we all just play it and block out the noise, we will enjoy it so much more.

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