What was the point of the Beta?

[simbayless]

EA already knew the feedback about the lack of cpu run game success but still released the game with that untouched. Competitive players are praising this game while the single players are suffering scrambling for the right sliders.The first gameplay patch is gonna be crucial because it will let the single players know what's their first priority ect.

[T4VERTS]

Re: What was the point of the Beta?

EA already knew the feedback about the lack of cpu run game success but still released the game with that untouched. Competitive players are praising this game while the single players are suffering scrambling for the right sliders.The first gameplay patch is gonna be crucial because it will let the single players know what's their first priority ect.

The Beta basically set the board for fixes. Everything from the beta wasn't going to get fixed by release. There were some game breaking bugs that probably took precedent over all. I'm sure it's on there, but it's going to take them some time to work through everything that came out of that as well as release.

[SilverBullet19]

Re: What was the point of the Beta?

Like T4Verts said, it's to get a basis for fixes. Sometimes they are simple to fix in time for release, like typos in tickers and such. Fixing the running game, I can assume, would require quite a bit of work in the overall coding, so it takes longer. It could quite literally be that they've been working on a patch to fix it since then.

Remember, sometimes things you see as an issue, others don't. There were tons of "issues" brought up in beta that were split between keeping it as is and fixing it. A fix to you may be considered a mistake and an issue by another.

There were a lot, and are a lot, of complaints about the running game. A lot of people are also saying how much they like it. Every aspect gets mixed feedback, so unless it's heavily favored one way or another, it probably will go unchanged. Also, keep in mind they told us it was different. Because of this, they might have wanted to give some time to adjust before jumping the gun.

"Let the gamers figure out how to run, and if they're still complaining weeks after release, we will patch it. If they haven't figured it out by then, it's clearly an issue" type mentality.

Don't get me wrong, I think the running game needs a patch too, I couldn't get more than 1-2 yard averages with my starters in. Sliders solved it.

[Therebelyell626]

Re: What was the point of the Beta?

Geeze. People are still complaining about the running game I see. It's really a shame because this game is going to get patched into oblivion because of the complaints this year. For the people having trouble with the running game you really need to just start playing on competitive style gameplay, or adjust and realize that not every run is going to be a home run like years past. What's sad is that once this game DOES get patched (lets face it it will. Too many people refuse to adjust), ripping off those 40 plus yard runs are going to go back to being so unrewarding.

I am having absolutely no issues with the run game. I honestly believe people are just flat out refusing to drop old bad habits. That's really the only explanation I can think of because I am not even that good of a player and I figured out the run game within the first two days

[Sphinx]

Re: What was the point of the Beta?

Geeze. People are still complaining about the running game I see. It's really a shame because this game is going to get patched into oblivion because of the complaints this year. For the people having trouble with the running game you really need to just start playing on competitive style gameplay, or adjust and realize that not every run is going to be a home run like years past. What's sad is that once this game DOES get patched (lets face it it will. Too many people refuse to adjust), ripping off those 40 plus yard runs are going to go back to being so unrewarding.

I am having absolutely no issues with the run game. I honestly believe people are just flat out refusing to drop old bad habits. That's really the only explanation I can think of because I am not even that good of a player and I figured out the run game within the first two days

I'm not having much of an issue with the run game but I do want to say, I have no desire to play competitive style. I prefer sim and that's how I personally play. My biggest complaint of the gameplay, is specifically the CPU run game. The right sliders can help this but when you have people needing to make edits to traits and/or attributes in order to get the cpu running, I think that's a problem. My opinion is, user running is fine, cpu running needs tuning.

[SilverBullet19]

Re: What was the point of the Beta?

Geeze. People are still complaining about the running game I see. It's really a shame because this game is going to get patched into oblivion because of the complaints this year. For the people having trouble with the running game you really need to just start playing on competitive style gameplay, or adjust and realize that not every run is going to be a home run like years past. What's sad is that once this game DOES get patched (lets face it it will. Too many people refuse to adjust), ripping off those 40 plus yard runs are going to go back to being so unrewarding.

I am having absolutely no issues with the run game. I honestly believe people are just flat out refusing to drop old bad habits. That's really the only explanation I can think of because I am not even that good of a player and I figured out the run game within the first two days

Personally, I think it's a bit over the top as even with adjusting I have no running game. My Cowboys OLine was getting beat every play, and Elliott couldn't even make it to the LOS. I was getting 1.5 YPC, even not sprinting, using one cut, and being patient. I only got success when 2nd team guys came in, oddly. Probably due to fatigue, I would think.

You have a good point though. With what you said, I'd rather fix it with sliders instead of a patch. Sliders have provided me a good balance, and they're more customizable than a patch.

[TEE04]

Re: What was the point of the Beta?

Geeze. People are still complaining about the running game I see. It's really a shame because this game is going to get patched into oblivion because of the complaints this year. For the people having trouble with the running game you really need to just start playing on competitive style gameplay, or adjust and realize that not every run is going to be a home run like years past. What's sad is that once this game DOES get patched (lets face it it will. Too many people refuse to adjust), ripping off those 40 plus yard runs are going to go back to being so unrewarding.

I am having absolutely no issues with the run game. I honestly believe people are just flat out refusing to drop old bad habits. That's really the only explanation I can think of because I am not even that good of a player and I figured out the run game within the first two days

well said, Boom

[simbayless]

Re: What was the point of the Beta?

Guys notice I said cpu lacking running success not human.

[Therebelyell626]

Re: What was the point of the Beta?

Guys notice I said cpu lacking running success not human.

My bad simbayless. The forum has just been so inundated with "the running game is broken" threads I just thought here we go again. You are right though. The run game without sliders is a little shoddy from the cpu. I play all madden default sliders and the run is the least of my problems. On all madden the CPU carves you up like a thanksgiving turkey. Lights you up like a Christmas tree. Or whatever adage you want to use lol

[SilverBullet19]

Re: What was the point of the Beta?

Guys notice I said cpu lacking running success not human.

Entirely missed that, lol. I have also fixed this with sliders. Using MAtt10's, the CPU actually can run well if that's their style of offense.

[Vanilla_Gorilla]

Re: What was the point of the Beta?

Didn't they have an earlier release frame this year as well?

[stinkubus]

Re: What was the point of the Beta?

Geeze. People are still complaining about the running game I see. It's really a shame because this game is going to get patched into oblivion because of the complaints this year. For the people having trouble with the running game you really need to just start playing on competitive style gameplay, or adjust and realize that not every run is going to be a home run like years past. What's sad is that once this game DOES get patched (lets face it it will. Too many people refuse to adjust), ripping off those 40 plus yard runs are going to go back to being so unrewarding.

I am having absolutely no issues with the run game. I honestly believe people are just flat out refusing to drop old bad habits. That's really the only explanation I can think of because I am not even that good of a player and I figured out the run game within the first two days

This. Running on default, even All Madden, isn't bad at all and you can run a variety of plays (both zone and power schemes are viable). Passing over the middle and the super duper OP QB spies are my only game play complaint, and I'm certain these will be fixed.

[simbayless]

Re: What was the point of the Beta?

My bad simbayless. The forum has just been so inundated with "the running game is broken" threads I just thought here we go again. You are right though. The run game without sliders is a little shoddy from the cpu. I play all madden default sliders and the run is the least of my problems. On all madden the CPU carves you up like a thanksgiving turkey. Lights you up like a Christmas tree. Or whatever adage you want to use lol

Its all good sir. This Madden has so much potential if they can get the all pro more challenging and all madden not too hard but very realistic challenging