Lighting Patch?

[FormVoltron]

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I took these off screen pics (new to this) with my Galaxy S7. My tv is a 65' Samsung KS8500 4k HDR. I'm playing on Xbox One X. I too use Dynamic Contrast @ high, you can say I've calibrated my tv well around the Dynamic Contrast. When I calibrated I used side by side with other screens using Planet Earth II and some other 4k HDR videos. I feel with Dynamic Contrast set to high on this tv and calibrated the way I've done so (color space and all) that I've achieved colors that pop but are not too saturated that I lose detail.

It's great that you found an image that looks good to you, but that's not how calibration works. You don't calibrate based on specific movies/documentaries/games. You calibrate based on test patterns, with the goal being to get the whites as close to the D65 industry standard, so that you get the image that the content creator intended.

[adayinthelife]

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Ok, so I have done a lot of testing on this issue (loading into a ton of games, at all start times, under different conditions, etc.), and my conclusion is that the game is not properly showing "sunlight" in 1pm games in open stadiums.

Now everyone mentions a "brightness" issue, and while that is part of the problem, it is just a by-product of what I think the real problem is. Sunlight does not look like real sunlight in these 1pm games during actual gameplay. While wearing white uniforms, in a clear day, at 1pm, in a completely open stadium, the white uniforms should be extremely bright. So should the grass. But they are not. They are dull and almost grey. The weird thing is, the game is completely capable of properly recreating what this should look like. During the cut-scenes of those games, everything looks a lot better. And the BEST representation of what sunlight should look like is if you play in the Colts stadium, at 1pm, clear day, with the roof open. In that scenario, the sunlight streaming down from the roof in certain spots on the field is blindingly bright! It looks like real sunlight. Stand in that spot wearing a white uniform and it is so bright, it looks exactly how it should. But in a fully open stadium, clear skies, 1pm, you do not get that effect at all during gameplay. Something is definitely wrong.

Night games do not have any problems and they look glorious. When the lighting works correctly, this is the best looking sports game I have ever seen. But those 1pm open stadium games need to properly render that super bright sunlight, which the game clearly has the capability to do.

For the record I play on an Xbox One X and have an LG OLED tv, which has given me the best HDR gaming I have ever experienced in my life.

This is basically the only explanation I can think of as well.

The default time/weather setting on a "play now" or whatever game is 4pm/partly cloudy. It seems like for whatever reason, changing this to 1pm/clear doesn't actually do so. The sky box very clearly has clouds, and the lighting is not from overhead as it should be at the start of the game, which is very clearly seen just by how long the shadows are. Sure seems like a bug, though it's odd that something like that would make it through.

[cthurt]

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I'm very curious to how the upcoming patches will change this game, because this game did come out a few weeks earlier then usual and them releasing a beta version wasn't the norm either. As good as this game looks graphically it will go over the top if these lighting issues get addressed.

[fsufan4423]

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It's great that you found an image that looks good to you, but that's not how calibration works. You don't calibrate based on specific movies/documentaries/games. You calibrate based on test patterns, with the goal being to get the whites as close to the D65 industry standard, so that you get the image that the content creator intended.

This would be correct, but this is OS not AVS Forums. I think many of the users here are looking for a happy medium not the industry standard. I think we all enjoy sharing ideals and helping each other achieve a better gaming experience .

If someone here likes their picture, and I’ve helped in the slightest, I’m happy for them whether I think it’s looks good or not. I don’t mean to sound rude, that’s not my intention. You make valid point and seem to be very educated on the topic. I appreciate your input very much.

[FormVoltron]

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This would be correct, but this is OS not AVS Forums. I think many of the users here are looking for a happy medium not the industry standard. I think we all enjoy sharing ideals and helping each other achieve a better gaming experience .

If someone here likes their picture, and I’ve helped in the slightest, I’m happy for them whether I think it’s looks good or not. I don’t mean to sound rude, that’s not my intention. You make valid point and seem to be very educated on the topic. I appreciate your input very much.

No doubt people can choose the settings they like most, but what the other poster described is not a calibration at all.

[Darth Aegis]

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Im actually pretty happy with this image. I think EA has always struggled with their playing surfaces color palette atleast in Madden. Never really gets that real NFL stadium look imo.

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[PhillyPhanatic14]

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I agree, but i think the Steelers stadium is easily one of the best looking ones in the game. The main issue with the lighting is the other stadiums. If the steelers and packers lighting was consistent in all the other stadiums there wouldn't be any issue.

[Darth Aegis]

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I agree, but i think the Steelers stadium is easily one of the best looking ones in the game. The main issue with the lighting is the other stadiums. If the steelers and packers lighting was consistent in all the other stadiums there wouldn't be any issue.

I'll try the eagles later tonight and see what it looks like.

[PhillyPhanatic14]

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I'll try the eagles later tonight and see what it looks like.

Get ready to squint I'm waiting to start my Eagles CFM until the official roster comes out before week 1 so they've got plenty of time to fix it up. Hoping they make it a priority.

[fsufan4423]

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Im actually pretty happy with this image. I think EA has always struggled with their playing surfaces color palette atleast in Madden. Never really gets that real NFL stadium look imo.

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This pic looks great to me. I wish all the outdoor stadiums look like this at 1pm.

[metallidevils]

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Ok, so I have done a lot of testing on this issue (loading into a ton of games, at all start times, under different conditions, etc.), and my conclusion is that the game is not properly showing "sunlight" in 1pm games in open stadiums.

Now everyone mentions a "brightness" issue, and while that is part of the problem, it is just a by-product of what I think the real problem is. Sunlight does not look like real sunlight in these 1pm games during actual gameplay. While wearing white uniforms, in a clear day, at 1pm, in a completely open stadium, the white uniforms should be extremely bright. So should the grass. But they are not. They are dull and almost grey. The weird thing is, the game is completely capable of properly recreating what this should look like. During the cut-scenes of those games, everything looks a lot better. And the BEST representation of what sunlight should look like is if you play in the Colts stadium, at 1pm, clear day, with the roof open. In that scenario, the sunlight streaming down from the roof in certain spots on the field is blindingly bright! It looks like real sunlight. Stand in that spot wearing a white uniform and it is so bright, it looks exactly how it should. But in a fully open stadium, clear skies, 1pm, you do not get that effect at all during gameplay. Something is definitely wrong.

Night games do not have any problems and they look glorious. When the lighting works correctly, this is the best looking sports game I have ever seen. But those 1pm open stadium games need to properly render that super bright sunlight, which the game clearly has the capability to do.

For the record I play on an Xbox One X and have an LG OLED tv, which has given me the best HDR gaming I have ever experienced in my life.

Great analysis, I’ve also come to the same conclusion. I hope it gets patched because as you said, when the sun is actually shining in the correct position, the game looks great.

[TarHeelPhenom]

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Great analysis, I’ve also come to the same conclusion. I hope it gets patched because as you said, when the sun is actually shining in the correct position, the game looks great.

I 100% agree about Colts stadium at 1pm open and clear skies. Absolutely beautiful. On the downside...I was playing head to head online last night. I was the Bears playing the Dolphins at Dolphin stadium day game. At tye beginning of the game it was dull and dark. Funny this is as the game progressed, the sun got brighter as well as the field. So my question is do they have something backwards? How is it possible for this to happen?

[Goffs]

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Get ready to squint I'm waiting to start my Eagles CFM until the official roster comes out before week 1 so they've got plenty of time to fix it up. Hoping they make it a priority.

Is this how it's supposed to look? PC btw at 1PM clear

[Darth Aegis]

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Get ready to squint I'm waiting to start my Eagles CFM until the official roster comes out before week 1 so they've got plenty of time to fix it up. Hoping they make it a priority.

Looks even better on my end in person. Not sure why my phone puts out a olive looking green. Its really a nice shade of green.

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[Panther84]

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Both games look like evening games. Color looks good though.