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  • cal7_11
    Rookie
    • Aug 2009
    • 446

    #1

    Over the top Franchise player regression

    So after finally getting going with a franchise with the perfect sliders and acceptable gameplay I get to the end of the first season and discover the regression. It’s an absolute bloodbath... every. single. player. Aged 29 and above got massacred. The highlights being despite all these players having great seasons

    Antonio Brown - 40 attribute points
    Gronk - 60
    Julio - 40
    Brady - 40

    Had to turn the game off, couldn’t possibly face going through and editing all the relevant players who did not deserve semi retirement.

    Is there any way to turn down regression!? This is an absolute franchise killer.
  • SilverBullet19
    MVP
    • Oct 2015
    • 4091

    #2
    Re: Over the top Franchise player regression

    Originally posted by cal7_11
    So after finally getting going with a franchise with the perfect sliders and acceptable gameplay I get to the end of the first season and discover the regression. It’s an absolute bloodbath... every. single. player. Aged 29 and above got massacred. The highlights being despite all these players having great seasons

    Antonio Brown - 40 attribute points
    Gronk - 60
    Julio - 40
    Brady - 40

    Had to turn the game off, couldn’t possibly face going through and editing all the relevant players who did not deserve semi retirement.

    Is there any way to turn down regression!? This is an absolute franchise killer.
    I'm kinda confused what you mean by this when you're talking about attribute points. Is this how many points you have to spend on them? Or is that how much their overalls dropped? I'm confused, honestly. I thought you could only assign attribute points?
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    • cal7_11
      Rookie
      • Aug 2009
      • 446

      #3
      Re: Over the top Franchise player regression

      Originally posted by SilverBullet19
      I'm kinda confused what you mean by this when you're talking about attribute points. Is this how many points you have to spend on them? Or is that how much their overalls dropped? I'm confused, honestly. I thought you could only assign attribute points?
      That’s how many individual attributes points were lowered on those players

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      • SilverBullet19
        MVP
        • Oct 2015
        • 4091

        #4
        Re: Over the top Franchise player regression

        Originally posted by cal7_11
        That’s how many individual attributes points were lowered on those players
        How much did their overall ratings drop? That does seem excessive...are you using any XP sliders? I don't know if that makes a difference.
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        • cal7_11
          Rookie
          • Aug 2009
          • 446

          #5
          Re: Over the top Franchise player regression

          Of the top of my head Brown went down to 94, Julio 92, Gronk 92, Brady 91. Using the XP sliders in Tdawgs thread. Yeah it’s an insane amount, not a chance these players (maybe Brady) just drop off a cliff next season IRL

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          • SilverBullet19
            MVP
            • Oct 2015
            • 4091

            #6
            Re: Over the top Franchise player regression

            Originally posted by cal7_11
            Of the top of my head Brown went down to 94, Julio 92, Gronk 92, Brady 91. Using the XP sliders in Tdawgs thread. Yeah it’s an insane amount, not a chance these players (maybe Brady) just drop off a cliff when they get to age 29
            Where were they losing these points? I mean, they're still in the 90's at least

            How were some of the guys who were say, in the low 90's-80's already? I'd imagine it requires some insane stats to maintain a 99 overall, but I'm curious about the more "average" players, if you will.
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            • SyncereBlackout
              Rookie
              • Aug 2014
              • 828

              #7
              Re: Over the top Franchise player regression

              Originally posted by cal7_11
              So after finally getting going with a franchise with the perfect sliders and acceptable gameplay I get to the end of the first season and discover the regression. It’s an absolute bloodbath... every. single. player. Aged 29 and above got massacred. The highlights being despite all these players having great seasons



              Antonio Brown - 40 attribute points

              Gronk - 60

              Julio - 40

              Brady - 40



              Had to turn the game off, couldn’t possibly face going through and editing all the relevant players who did not deserve semi retirement.



              Is there any way to turn down regression!? This is an absolute franchise killer.


              I can’t tell what mode you’re playing. Sim. Competitive? Are you playing all games? Xp sliders? Coach mode?

              What were the stats? Did anyone reach their season or team goals?

              What’s an attribute point and if it’s for individual ratings which ones? How much progression took place during the season and what is the net points lost?


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              • beastmode2013
                Rookie
                • Oct 2013
                • 312

                #8
                Re: Over the top Franchise player regression

                All my players regress by 7-8 overall around age 30 or 31. Way too much! Especially when they come off an mvp caliber season and/or career season. Von Miller regressed 7 ovr after having 21 sacks...
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                • SilverBullet19
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 4091

                  #9
                  Re: Over the top Franchise player regression

                  Originally posted by beastmode2013
                  All my players regress by 7-8 overall around age 30 or 31. Way too much! Especially when they come off an mvp caliber season and/or career season. Von Miller regressed 7 ovr after having 21 sacks...


                  Sad to see this is still a problem. Guess I’ll have to manually counteract it yet again


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                  • Bushido
                    Pro
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 691

                    #10
                    Re: Over the top Franchise player regression

                    I know this is cheese, but I honestly go to the GOAT's profiles and edit their ages to keep them dominant and highest OV. I only do this with QB's though. Skill players do see a dramatic/drastic drop once they enter their 30's.

                    Randy Moss, after his 33rd birthday, only had 56 receptions over the next 4 years of his career, for an average of 14 yards per catch, and just 8 TD's.



                    So if Tom Brady is 41 in real life, I'll make him 28. Then in two years, I'll bump him up to 40 and he retires in season 3.

                    It's an easy work around to keep players like Brady rated a 95+
                    Last edited by Bushido; 08-23-2018, 11:36 PM.

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                    • Brandwin
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 30621

                      #11
                      Re: Over the top Franchise player regression

                      Originally posted by Bushido
                      I know this is cheese, but I honestly go to the GOAT's profiles and edit their ages to keep them dominant and highest OV. I only do this with QB's though. Skill players do see a dramatic/drastic drop once they enter their 30's.

                      Randy Moss, after his 33rd birthday, only had 56 receptions over the next 4 years of his career, for an average of 14 yards per catch, and just 8 TD's.



                      So if Tom Brady is 41 in real life, I'll make him 28. Then in two years, I'll bump him up to 40 and he retires in season 3.

                      It's an easy work around to keep players like Brady rated a 95+
                      Why not just edit their ratings?

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                      • derboehsevincent
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2017
                        • 55

                        #12
                        Re: Over the top Franchise player regression

                        because changing one value is way faster than having notes of all skillpoints and the need to correct them. I for myself can live withthe regression - NFL = Not for long. I do not sign big contracts to players close to their 30s and I manage to build a depth at every position so their regression does make think of "Do I start the veteran or is he over his prime").

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                        • cal7_11
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 446

                          #13
                          Re: Over the top Franchise player regression

                          Originally posted by derboehsevincent
                          because changing one value is way faster than having notes of all skillpoints and the need to correct them. I for myself can live withthe regression - NFL = Not for long. I do not sign big contracts to players close to their 30s and I manage to build a depth at every position so their regression does make think of "Do I start the veteran or is he over his prime").
                          I have no problem with the ‘average joe’ regressing drastically when they hit 30 but not the superstars like Julio, Brown, AJ Green, Gronk etc.

                          The good news i can go and edit the superstars back to normal but it’s going to take a good hour. We should have a slider for regression.

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                          • Ueauvan
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 1625

                            #14
                            Re: Over the top Franchise player regression

                            assuming you take the game out of the box its futile. you need xpsliders otherwise noone gets anywhere and regression kills you. look at oline, hitting 29 means why bother, might as well retire. also kickers Gould kicks 12 from 15 missing 3 over 50, all extra points successful. regresses 2 awr and nothing else???

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                            • DeuceDouglas
                              Madden Dev Team
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 4297

                              #15
                              Re: Over the top Franchise player regression

                              Just to help visualize what OP is referring to:









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