The upcoming release of the PS5 is why some of you should be patient with SDS

[BigOrangeVol4Life]

I see a lot of complaints on this board about graphics, animations, and the apparent lack of new and fresh features with The Show '19 just as there was with The Show '18. I've read threats from some about not buying the game again. In my opinion, there has never been a baseball game created on any console in any era as good as The Show. It isn't perfect, but it still looks and sounds light years better than anything else, and I've been around since the Atari 2600 days. The option to replace fictitious players with real minor league players has always added a whole new dimension to the game. Has anyone ever thought that SDS has peaked with what it can do with the PS4's capabilities? It's frustrating when something else breaks in the game when they address a problem, but maybe the PS4 is at its limit.

It's going to be exciting to see what the team can do with the technology of the PS5 when it's released. We're going to have a good 6 or 7 sequels of The Show thereafter with revolutionary improvements they simply can't do with the aging PS4.

I say never give up on the SDS team and The Show. Enjoy '19 and look forward to what the PS5 brings.

[TheBleedingRed21]

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I disagree. I think the PS4 still has plenty of life and power to go. I could name other upcoming titles that prove this.

[ryanmc564]

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The problem is, no one saw the jump in graphics that we thought we were going to see going from the ps3 to the ps4. Player models being one of the main things, sure the faces have gotten better, but the players bodies still look like they are from the ps3 era. Sure, the stadiums were all redone, but they really don't look all that different from their ps3 counterparts. More or less the game has looked and played the same since the ps3, so saying wait to see what they can do with the ps5 is ridiculous. If they are not able to make big changes from the ps3 to the ps4, then you can bank on that you won't see a huge changes on the ps5 either.

[underdog13]

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The real issue is I ain't getting any younger

[baconbits11]

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I see a lot of complaints on this board about graphics, animations, and the apparent lack of new and fresh features with The Show '19 just as there was with The Show '18. I've read threats from some about not buying the game again. In my opinion, there has never been a baseball game created on any console in any era as good as The Show. It isn't perfect, but it still looks and sounds light years better than anything else, and I've been around since the Atari 2600 days. The option to replace fictitious players with real minor league players has always added a whole new dimension to the game. Has anyone ever thought that SDS has peaked with what it can do with the PS4's capabilities? It's frustrating when something else breaks in the game when they address a problem, but maybe the PS4 is at its limit.

It's going to be exciting to see what the team can do with the technology of the PS5 when it's released. We're going to have a good 6 or 7 sequels of The Show thereafter with revolutionary improvements they simply can't do with the aging PS4.

I say never give up on the SDS team and The Show. Enjoy '19 and look forward to what the PS5 brings.

Replace "PS5" with "PS4" and Show "19" with "Show "14" and this sounds like what I just heard 5 years ago.

[TheWarmWind]

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It's not console limitations that are holding this team back. It's the absolute need to produce a new product every single year. A one year development cycle in this day and age, with a team their size, is absolute insanity.

Player models upgrades could be limited by the time it takes to upgrade them, or by the engine itself, as it probably isn't aging to well. A one year cycle to switch to a new engine is impossible. Even if they did somehow miraculously manage to do it, they would have to strip a lot of features out of the game.

I definitely don't like every improvement that the SDS team makes, nor do I approve of their focus in improvements every year, but I am constantly floored with the amount of work these guys get done season to season.

TLDR; they can't make these large changes because they just don't have the time.

[SmooveMove]

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Seems like we're in an endless cycle with these yearly release sports games

• New console comes out, the game won't be that good on a brand new console.
• The console is only (1,2,3) years old, they won't max out the potential of the console till year 4 or 5.
• It's year 4 or 5, the next console is coming out soon.

There's never gonna be an incentive for these companies to make THE sports video game experience, just the experience that can be slightly improved on the next year and so on and so on. Not that I'm saying anything that anyone doesn't know, but it is a very unfortunate side effect of this business model.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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This is the biggest cop out imaginable. Why hold them accountable for any sort of high expectations on the PS5 when the PS6 will be out at some point? It's incumbent on them to do their best to produce a quality product in the present. Because these games are not being purchased with future dollars.

[Number999]

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This is what people said towards the end of the PS3 era and what we'll get when the PS5 era is wrapping up...

The reality is the direction of sports gaming as a whole right now is concerning. Every game is obsessed with their version of Diamond Dynasty / Ultimate Team due to the fact it's their money maker. For the first time in 5 years I don't plan on buying MLB The Show on launch date since franchise mode was relegated from having it's own stream to being a mere blurb in terms of what the developers are gonna talk about. This is an issue with Madden as well. Eventually the bubble is going to burst on these modes and companies are going to be in for the rude awakening when the well runs dry.

[Armor and Sword]

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The only thing that I thought we would get on the PS4 was just some more depth in terms of roster size (playable single A ball so at least 125 player roster) a better scouting system, deeper draft (at least 15 rounds), non roster spring invite, international free agents, full historical minor league statistics. And a more robust financial system/owner mode/relocation etc

I really thought the power of the PS3 is what held this back....and we would get at least a few of those things.

We did get player quirks, and morale (but it needs to be refined more).

But what we clearly got on the PS4 is a vastly superior playing game on the diamond. No question for me 18 was the very best console baseball game ever on the diamond. Simply awesome.

The Show has always been about small, incremental, but impactful improvements.

I just wish we had a little more depth to franchise mode with those things mentioned above...which to me is what makes baseball a deep and rewarding experience. Statistics, player development and scouting.

It’s crucial to a teams long term success.


So hopefully when they transition to the PS5 we can get some things we have been pining for, for several years in terms of franchise mode depth.

Gameplay will continue to be refined.

Graphically....I am not hard to please.....I am still very happy with this game visually. I don’t get the hate. NHL, and 2K look virtually the same to me....Madden has definitely refined the graphics....but pales in comparison to gameplay improvements....like pales like a white ghost side by side with The Show.

Gameplay and depth is far more important to most sports gamers over graphics....so what if a game is pretty....it needs to play great to have shelf life.

[HolyHell]

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I don't know if i want to trust SDS with all the extra space they will have with PS5. Last year, they focused on DD and bat flips. This year, they went beyond the unthinkable and actually added models of you tubers and streamers. Just laughable what happens when you have no competition.

[HozAndMoose]

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I don't know if i want to trust SDS with all the extra space they will have with PS5. Last year, they focused on DD and bat flips. This year, they went beyond the unthinkable and actually added models of you tubers and streamers. Just laughable what happens when you have no competition.

This isnt the first year with content creators having scans in game. And its not like The Show is the only game that has ever done it.

[ShowTyme15]

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This isnt the first year with content creators having scans in game. And its not like The Show is the only game that has ever done it.

All of the old OS Community Day guys were in the game at one point. Knight, SLAB etc..........

[ItAllFades]

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Ah yes, be patient while they continue to just worry about DD Micro-transactions and add nothing worthwhile for people who don't care about DD.

[countryboy]

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So on one end of the spectrum we have a plea for everyone to be patient with SDS as they develop on a console that we know nothing about, while on the other end of the spectrum we have those who are frustrated with SDS using this ball on a tee plea to take their swings at SDS.

I guess what I'm wondering is....what's the point of this thread? It's nothing more than an ideal breeding ground for an all out pissing contest to take place.

Maybe a thread of this nature would be better suited to hold a discussion once we actually know something about the PS5.

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