Double play city.

[Gagnon39]

Every single year I lead the league in grounding into double plays. This year is by far the worst I’ve ever seen. I’m in the second week of June and I have 76. The next closest team has 55. By the end of the year I’ll lead this category by 50+.

I’ve read all I can and I know baseball, but there’s just no way to stay out of them.


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[nemesis04]

Re: Double play city.

The Show has always had the ability of lulling the user into the double play. It’s annoying at times.

[Gagnon39]

Re: Double play city.

The Show has always had the ability of lulling the user into the double play. It’s annoying at times.

Although many will argue it's not an issue. I know that undoubtedly the fielder's willingness and more than anything, their ability to get the ball to second base quickly and accurately is one of the main culprits.

Second basemen going DEEEEP in the hole to their left, wheeling on their backfoot and throwing strikes to the shortstop to start the double play is part of the issue.

[BigOscar]

Re: Double play city.

Yeah the balance of fielders reaction/speed/ability to get rid of the ball combined with the batters speed down the line make this a big issue. It's pretty rare to beat out a double play, regardless of your hitters speed as the fielders are so damn slick.

It's present in other areas too, like how you can easily throw out runners at first with your RF, or the always alloying force out at second when the runner hurdles the ball hit along the ground to the RF, or even this year they've added a lot of ones where you're thrown out going for a double on balls hit all the way to the wall in centerfield, or runners being gunned down by miles trying to score from second on singles with two outs.

I think in general, they just haven't quite got the scale of the baseball field right, it feels too small in every regard.

[nemesis04]

Re: Double play city.

Although many will argue it's not an issue. I know that undoubtedly the fielder's willingness and more than anything, their ability to get the ball to second base quickly and accurately is one of the main culprits.

Second basemen going DEEEEP in the hole to their left, wheeling on their backfoot and throwing strikes to the shortstop to start the double play is part of the issue.

Yes, the frequency of fielders turning perfect double plays is too high. I wouldn’t mind a slider for double play efficiency.

[Subway_sub]

Re: Double play city.

I also hit into a ton of double plays and always have. Figured it was because I used the tigers and they always have slow teams. But now I'm using the Braves and it's the same thing. Agreed that the field always feels too small

[countryboy]

Re: Double play city.

I've hit into 58 double plays thru 86 games, which ranks me 27th in the majors. The Yankees have the most at 69.

[SoxSoxSox]

Re: Double play city.

I have 66 in 54 games, dead last. I should probably have more, but depending on who's at first (my fastest players have 70 or so speed and I also factor the steal rating), I will send them on counts I plan to swing, and I've managed to hit grounders where the runner stays out of the double play.


However, I'm also very aggressive at the plate so I could also have less if I didn't swing at most everything.

[Gagnon39]

Re: Double play city.

I've hit into 58 double plays thru 86 games, which ranks me 27th in the majors. The Yankees have the most at 69.

I’m impressed you’re not last. However, if you took all franchise guys on here at OS that have played 50+ games of franchise, I’d be willing to bet the average rank in each respective franchise would be around 29.5.


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[Sumodeads]

Re: Double play city.

I’m impressed you’re not last. However, if you took all franchise guys on here at OS that have played 50+ games of franchise, I’d be willing to bet the average rank in each respective franchise would be around 29.5.


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This is the deepest I’ve gone into a franchise this year. I play on HOF+(locked on that level on DD), Zone and I have hit into 30 DP in 54 games(1/3 of the season). We are 8th best in MLB. I tell myself every time to spit on the low pitch and not swing down, although sometimes my aggressive hitting style AKA swing at everything takes over.

The ones that piss me off are when it’s a pitch in the upper half of the zone and I hit a routine ground ball double play on it.


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[Detroit Tigers]

Double play city.

Count me in, I’ve had this problem in the past. However, I’ll have to check but I’m pretty sure I’m actually doing good with it this year.

One factor for me is that I have the fewest strikeouts in the league by a mile, but since my offensive numbers are good outside of that, I didn’t want to mess with anything. So what I ended up doing was just .... not striking out on purpose, but just stopped caring if I struck out or not. I mention this because oftentimes when I’m in a double play situation I’ll remind myself “a strikeout here is better than a double play”; this approach tends to keep me off the low trash I can’t handle that I would otherwise swing at because I would be trying to avoid the K so hard.

[Aviator87AC]

Re: Double play city.

There is a ton of strategy to hitting, it is so much deeper than most people realize. Someone wrote a full guide to it awhile ago but basically whenever you're hitting with a man on first and less than 2-outs, you should never commit to a hit without pressing up (or aiming low if zone). If facing a sinkerballer, you never commit without pressing up and using contact swing. If in a pitchers count (say, 0-2 or 1-2) with a low contact hitter, all you're trying to do is slap the ball oppo pressing up and out.

Those are just some basic scenarios but once you start going into every at-bat with a gameplan, DPs will decrease to realistic amounts (unless you're just having a bad game).

[ML]

Re: Double play city.

I’ve hit into 40 through 56 games. I’m 29th in the league.

I actually hit into a dp last game and thought to myself “Wow, havent done that in a while!”

Then I saw this thread and checked my stats...


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[bcruise]

Re: Double play city.

There is a ton of strategy to hitting, it is so much deeper than most people realize. Someone wrote a full guide to it awhile ago but basically whenever you're hitting with a man on first on and less than 2-outs, you should never commit to a hit without pressing up (or aiming low if zone). If facing a sinkerballer, you never commit without pressing up and using contact swing. If in a pitchers count (say, 0-2 or 1-2) with a low contact hitter, all you're trying to do is slap the ball oppo pressing up and out.

Those are just some basic scenarios but once you start going into every at-bat with a gameplan, DPs will decrease to realistic amounts (unless you're just having a bad game).

Glad someone mentioned the strategy factor - I agree 100%. In fact, as a Zone user in a DP situation I just simply don't swing at anything that looks like it is going below halfway down the zone on less than two strikes, because I'm just asking to hit into 2 no matter what the settings or sliders are. On two strikes, yes I have to cover the low part of the zone and that's when I hit into most of the ones I get. The CPU can usually be counted on to not just pound low pitches on you endlessly - it's going to throw an occasional pitch high either as a mistake or an attempt to surprise me, and those are the pitches I can attack. This approach doesn't work nearly as well in head-to-head play where a human player can and will throw low on you non-stop.

The same approach can be taken on directional, it's just not as effective because you don't actually control the PCI. But you're still less likely to beat an above-the-belt pitch into the ground, even on directional.

[Baseball Purist]

Re: Double play city.

This has been an issue for years now. I find myself always near the top of double plays. The 2B and SS are usually in perfect position for the play, and have the ability to get to balls deep in the hole that they probably shouldn't. This cannot be said of course for my fielders as I see countless hits that are just out of reach for my 2B or SS in DP situations.

The hitting in this game seems even more random with runners on base which I think is another culprit. Like someone mentioned earlier it's sometimes better to just take the strikeout instead of squaring up the ball and lining it to the 2B or SS.