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  • markwatson12
    Rookie
    • May 2011
    • 56

    #1

    Quick counts or 0-0 counts?

    Which do you prefer?
    Quick count and why?
    0-0 count and why?
  • bcruise
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2004
    • 23274

    #2
    Re: Quick counts or 0-0 counts?

    Originally posted by markwatson12
    Which do you prefer?
    Quick count and why?
    0-0 count and why?
    Simple answer:

    Out of all the different experiences in MLB The Show (and I do play them all), I enjoy the full game of baseball experience the most. Plus I find working the count (both as a pitcher and batter) to be the most vital part of both real life baseball and baseball video games. Ultimately contact off the bat (or lack of it) is what decides the outcome of baseball games, but the cat and mouse between the pitcher and batter it what sets all of that up. Without it I feel like the entire foundation of the game is missing.

    I totally get the argument of why people enjoy quick counts though (most of it related to the length of time it takes to play an entire game.). Time isn't really a factor for me when I sit down to play a baseball game, though - when I'm playing seriously in franchise I have all the presentation elements on and games can take as long as an hour and a half - I just make sure I have more time than that to dedicate to playing. I spend twice as long as that watching real baseball anyway, so it's not really a big deal to me.

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    • markwatson12
      Rookie
      • May 2011
      • 56

      #3
      Re: Quick counts or 0-0 counts?

      Do you notice a difference in hitting between the 2? I notice I hit better with 0-0 than I do with quick counts. But like you said I’m one of those that likes the quicker game. I’m really struggling this year finding the right setting to help my hitting and pitching. I do 0-0 and I score 10+ runs and pitch pretty good. I do quick counts and I don’t hit well maybe score a few runs and give up 10+ pitching. So I play franchise mode and I’m last in hitting and pitching. I’ve never been this bad at this game. I play all star for both and zone hitting and meter pitching.

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      • jrnlgrn
        Pro
        • Oct 2018
        • 3076

        #4
        Re: Quick counts or 0-0 counts?

        I like using quick counts on games outside of franchise when I just want to play a random game to fill sometime. Getting into a rhythm/groove while pitching and batting is one of my favorite things and also essential for me actually being effective. I found with quick counts I struggle because of the lack of context of how we got to that point in the count.
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        • Caulfield
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2011
          • 10986

          #5
          Re: Quick counts or 0-0 counts?

          Its really hard (IMO) to switch back and forth but still, I do it any way. I like that on generated counts I can basically go up there first pitch hacking. The one thing I do hate is if I use QC, I cant just do it for hitting. When pitching, I'd much rather personally throw every pitch.
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          • awffltony77
            MVP
            • Mar 2014
            • 1005

            #6
            Re: Quick counts or 0-0 counts?

            Originally posted by Caulfield
            Its really hard (IMO) to switch back and forth but still, I do it any way. I like that on generated counts I can basically go up there first pitch hacking. The one thing I do hate is if I use QC, I cant just do it for hitting. When pitching, I'd much rather personally throw every pitch.
            I go back and forth too. I wish I could turn it on/off and a per hitter basis sometimes.

            I've always loved quick counts, not just in a time efficient way, but also in a sim sense in which it really helps even out my K and BB numbers on both sides.

            What settings do you use?

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            • awffltony77
              MVP
              • Mar 2014
              • 1005

              #7
              Re: Quick counts or 0-0 counts?

              Originally posted by awffltony77
              I go back and forth too. I wish I could turn it on/off and a per hitter basis sometimes.

              I've always loved quick counts, not just in a time efficient way, but also in a sim sense in which it really helps even out my K and BB numbers on both sides.

              What settings do you use?

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              It's not easy finding a set up that works good with QC. But I feel like I've learned an awful lot about it I've the years

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              • Fiddy
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                • Jul 2002
                • 12639

                #8
                Re: Quick counts or 0-0 counts?

                Played a few games with 0-0 instead of quick counts. I just bat in my Mets franchise. I feel like I get better pitches go hit 0-0, BUT after a few at bats I lose patience and never dig deep into counts. Quick counts gives me that variety of different counts to hit out of. Honestly, would love to see some 0-0 at bats tossed into quick count mode. Especially in situations you may want to bunt or just big at bat moments during certain spots in the game.
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                • TheWarmWind
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 2620

                  #9
                  Re: Quick counts or 0-0 counts?

                  I would always be an every game every pitch every inning player, but the thing that bothers me the most about QC is that it will never generate a 0-0 count. I'd be far more likely to use it if 0-0 was possible, even if it were rare.

                  But even then I would only ever use it for a side franchise. Never my main one.

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                  • jake44np
                    Post Like a Champion!
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 9563

                    #10
                    Re: Quick counts or 0-0 counts?

                    I just finished a whole 162 games season playing every pitch of every game.
                    I started a new season with the Rays and I am using QC’s.
                    One thing I am noticing 4 games in is my starting pitchers get tired pretty quick with QC.
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                    • cripes
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 106

                      #11
                      Re: Quick counts or 0-0 counts?

                      Originally posted by TheWarmWind
                      the thing that bothers me the most about QC is that it will never generate a 0-0 count. I'd be far more likely to use it if 0-0 was possible, even if it were rare.
                      I use QC just for time purposes but this always bothered me as well. With quick counts it should just randomly generate ANY count from 0-0 to 3-2. I do like that 1-1 appears to be weighted heavier so you get it more frequently than any other count.

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                      • CCG2
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 6

                        #12
                        Re: Quick counts or 0-0 counts?

                        Quick counts. Reason is I play all 162 games in a season and it moves the games along quicker. I have realistic scores and results so I don't see the need to change. I wish there was a setting where you could start every count 1-1

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                        • CCG2
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 6

                          #13
                          Re: Quick counts or 0-0 counts?

                          They do because the fewest pitches you can throw to any batter is 3 in QC so the pitch counts get up. I just bump my starters stamina from 5 to 6 and seems to take care of that.

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                          • awffltony77
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 1005

                            #14
                            Re: Quick counts or 0-0 counts?

                            Originally posted by CCG2
                            They do because the fewest pitches you can throw to any batter is 3 in QC so the pitch counts get up. I just bump my starters stamina from 5 to 6 and seems to take care of that.
                            What are the rest of your settings? I'm a QC lifer, but this year I can't get them working

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                            • CCG2
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 6

                              #15
                              Re: Quick counts or 0-0 counts?

                              Originally posted by awffltony77
                              What are the rest of your settings? I'm a QC lifer, but this year I can't get them working

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                              ill let you know when i get home and look at them

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