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  • Johnnythelegend
    Pro
    • Mar 2010
    • 812

    #91
    Re: Mike Wang tweets about 2K20

    Originally posted by alabamarob
    I think calling fouls would control this. If the real nba allowed as much fouling as 2k there would be just as many blocked dunks.
    I disagree, I was a playmaking shooter PG in 2k19 and I managed to get a block or two pretty much every game, you can block two handed dunks just by swiping the ball from behind, that happens so rarely IRL that I remember seeing it only a couple of times in years of watching basketball. Blocks need to be toned down and harder to pull of, make the timing window shorter, and increasing the number of fouls is a must.

    Btw, talking about Live, I felt so much better playing a small quick PG than I did with 2k19. I am not saying Live is better, I played 2k a lot more and I think it´s a better game, but there are certain aspects of basketball where Live was better, maybe 2k could take some of it and implement it to make small guys (more) useful.

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    • Smirkin Dirk
      All Star
      • Oct 2008
      • 5170

      #92
      Re: Mike Wang tweets about 2K20

      Originally posted by The 24th Letter
      I'm my world, the number of badges would be drastically reduced and they'd be a lot stingier with who they give them to...but I absolutely don't want them going anywhere. Badges seem to be a catch-all for some peoples issues with gameplay and I feel it's a bit unwarranted. They really do give players individuality that static ratings can't alway's capture.
      Overall, Im a fan. My philosophy when playing offline is to eradicate all the badges that ratings already cover. Why bother with the mid range dead eye when the 3 mid range shooting ratings already give that player a boost? I just globally turn this off.

      But a badge like the corner shooter badge captures a skill that ratings can't so that stays.
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      • awg811
        Pro
        • Jul 2009
        • 768

        #93
        Re: Mike Wang tweets about 2K20

        Blocks should be toned down for anyone without defense in their build and good timing. And more fouls should be called for those without defense in their build and for both when using bad timing and position.


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        • 2_headedmonster
          MVP
          • Oct 2011
          • 2251

          #94
          Re: Mike Wang tweets about 2K20

          Originally posted by Johnnythelegend


          The other one is floaters/runners and layups. They are just not effective or weren't effective in previous versions of the game, they take too much time to perform and are too slow and too predictable, I was a PG in 2k19 and I don't remember pulling them off, it's just not effective.
          .

          Not to derail the thread, because it could use some improvement, but I strongly disagree. Them placing a higher emphasis on the contest at the release of a layup allowed me to take advantage of the evasive lay up options in nba 2k19. The Euro, cradle and spin gathers are gold, but the hop step to floater is just sexy.
          Last edited by 2_headedmonster; 08-06-2019, 08:28 AM.

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          • Korrupted
            Pro
            • Nov 2015
            • 917

            #95
            Re: Mike Wang tweets about 2K20

            Why is Volume Shooter returning? I know Mike said they revamped it a bit but I will avoid that badge at all cost until someone confirms it has more pro's than cons.

            I'm not a fan of Defensive Players having a small arrow under the ball handler indicating where they're leaning or attempting to go. That sounds awful.

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            • The 24th Letter
              ERA
              • Oct 2007
              • 39373

              #96
              Re: Mike Wang tweets about 2K20

              Originally posted by 2_headedmonster
              Not to derail the thread, because it could use some improvement, but I strongly disagree. Them placing a higher emphasis on the contest at the release of a layup allowed me to take advantage of the evasive lay up options in nba 2k19. The Euro, cradle and spin gathers are gold, but the hop step to floater is just sexy.
              Originally posted by 2_headedmonster
              Not to derail the thread, because it could use some improvement, but I strongly disagree. Them placing a higher emphasis on the contest at the release of a layup allowed me to take advantage of the evasive lay up options in nba 2k19. The Euro, cradle and spin gathers are gold, but the hop step to floater is just sexy.
              Could definitely use some work, but this is something 2K19 doesn't get nearly enough credit for....the ability to pull off creative finishes around the rim...they gave you a lot of options this year..

              Floaters specifically, I dont think I've ever used them as much as I've used them in 2K19

              The fact that they've seemingly expanded the options (especially for smaller guys) for 2K20 has me excited...
              Last edited by The 24th Letter; 08-06-2019, 09:14 AM.

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              • ksuttonjr76
                All Star
                • Nov 2004
                • 8662

                #97
                Re: Mike Wang tweets about 2K20

                Originally posted by Korrupted
                Why is Volume Shooter returning? I know Mike said they revamped it a bit but I will avoid that badge at all cost until someone confirms it has more pro's than cons.

                I'm not a fan of Defensive Players having a small arrow under the ball handler indicating where they're leaning or attempting to go. That sounds awful.
                As you can see...the offense is getting a crap load of new badges. They gotta throw a bone to the defense somehow. Besides, it was implemented rather well in NBA Live.

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                • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                  • Dec 2006
                  • 17294

                  #98
                  Re: Mike Wang tweets about 2K20

                  Originally posted by Korrupted
                  Why is Volume Shooter returning? I know Mike said they revamped it a bit but I will avoid that badge at all cost until someone confirms it has more pro's than cons.

                  I'm not a fan of Defensive Players having a small arrow under the ball handler indicating where they're leaning or attempting to go. That sounds awful.
                  Earlier in this thread, someone posted a tweet from Wang saying that there are no negative effects of volume scorer at all in 2k20.
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                  • illwill10
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 19790

                    #99
                    Re: Mike Wang tweets about 2K20

                    Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                    As you can see...the offense is getting a crap load of new badges. They gotta throw a bone to the defense somehow. Besides, it was implemented rather well in NBA Live.
                    He said they added more defensive badges. Hopefully they done enough to counter the offensive firepower. I felt that Defensive Stopper wasn't strong enough. They need to make the shot contest rating stronger. Just simply lower badges doesn't have the impact it should

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                    • JoFri
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 1486

                      #100
                      Re: Mike Wang tweets about 2K20

                      I fully expect iso-heavy players like James Harden, Chris Paul, Paul George, Kyrie Irving (just to name a few) to be equipped with the following
                      - handles for days (can pull off more dribble moves without getting fatigued fast)
                      - quick first step (for blowbys)



                      Cant wait!


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                      • ksuttonjr76
                        All Star
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 8662

                        #101
                        Re: Mike Wang tweets about 2K20

                        Originally posted by illwill10
                        He said they added more defensive badges. Hopefully they done enough to counter the offensive firepower. I felt that Defensive Stopper wasn't strong enough. They need to make the shot contest rating stronger. Just simply lower badges doesn't have the impact it should
                        There will never be enough defensive badges to counter the offense, since the offensive badges can stack on top of each other.

                        For example...
                        Rim Protector Badge is going against Giant Slayer + Tireless Scorer + Acrobat + Dimer (Maybe) + Green Release.

                        That's a lot to overcome.

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                        • illwill10
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 19790

                          #102
                          Re: Mike Wang tweets about 2K20

                          Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                          There will never be enough defensive badges to counter the offense, since the offensive badges can stack on top of each other.

                          For example...
                          Rim Protector Badge is going against Giant Slayer + Tireless Scorer + Acrobat + Dimer (Maybe) + Green Release.

                          That's a lot to overcome.
                          High ratings as well.

                          Defenders need love. Not just user Defenders. I want to feel the difference between going up against a Horford/Harrell compared to a Boban.

                          What could help if the shot contest rating or a badge lowers shot percentage

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                          • El_Poopador
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 2624

                            #103
                            Re: Mike Wang tweets about 2K20

                            Originally posted by Smirkin Dirk
                            Overall, Im a fan. My philosophy when playing offline is to eradicate all the badges that ratings already cover. Why bother with the mid range dead eye when the 3 mid range shooting ratings already give that player a boost? I just globally turn this off.

                            But a badge like the corner shooter badge captures a skill that ratings can't so that stays.
                            Even that could be given a rating, though. They could break out the three point ratings by hot zones, and just give each zone a rating. So a guy could have a 90 3PT in the left corner, but only an 85 from the right corner, and an 80 from the right wing.

                            The same could be done with midrange shots and even layups. We all know some guys are better finishing with their dominant hand than their non-dominant hand, while guys like Kyrie can finish well with either. Same with left-handed hook shots vs right-handed hook shots, or fadeaways/turnaround jumpers in either direction.

                            Even on the defensive end, ratings could be split to account for a defender's strong/weak sides. Maybe a guy is a great defender shuffling to the left, but a little worse attacking his right.

                            I would much rather see the attributes open up and be more granular than having the badges that are pretty arbitrary on exactly how they impact a player's performance.

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                            • WarMMA
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 4612

                              #104
                              Re: Mike Wang tweets about 2K20

                              Originally posted by illwill10
                              Mike said how Quick First Step unlocks the blowby animation. Last year the blowby was really toned down.
                              Ahh ok. So that was probably why we saw PG blowby Lebron in that gameplay....he probably had quick first step.

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                              • illwill10
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 19790

                                #105
                                Re: Mike Wang tweets about 2K20

                                Originally posted by WarMMA
                                Ahh ok. So that was probably why we saw PG blowby Lebron in that gameplay....he probably had quick first step.
                                Thats the first thing that came to mind. Hopefully it is unlocks whenever defender is out of position, not like 2k18

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