NCAA 12::(Xbox360 & PS3) 2019-2020 Roster Conversion

[pinbw]

The 2019-20 NCAA 12 CONVERSION!
Vikesfan-Mod Conversion. (For PS3 and Xbox360)

*Announcement 7-9-20:

Late Update of Old File with better Teams data to fix Dynasty Freeze issue. >>HERE

I plan to make an update to this 2019 roster in July or Aug 2020. (since I just updated NCAA13).
But not sure of the time frame as I've become very busy again as my work and online courses have resumed. For this roster I hope to get it up to date to Dec 2019 Bowl season and use MassChaos idea to transfer a Default Teams data with only minor things updated from 2019, in hopes to get Freeze issues taken care of. Depth chart will need to be adjusted manually, as I won't have any time to fix & test them. Skin tones/faces may be wrong on some players transferred. - I will at least post the file MassChaos was trying to post - a file with better Teams data file for the old Aug 2019 roster - to maybe allow dynasty mode to work without freezes.)

(I also want to start a new 2020-21 conversion after doing this. But that will take longer since the last player needs to be removed off each roster and faces #s have to be recalculated--But all of this may not occur until a little later. )

The 2020-21 NCAA 12 CONVERSION!
Vikesfan-Mod Conversion. (For PS3 and Xbox360)
**I never made the 2020-21 season , but a New NCAA 12 2020-21 xbox360 Roster by Reeshmd23 was converted post season.

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/ncaa-football-rosters/981318-ncaa-12-360-a.html

(He also posted a conversion for PS3 NCAA12 in his later posts in thread).



*UPDATED TO AUG 16, 2019.-Now Available! (files in this post below have Dynasty freeze issues - see newer files later in thread.).

*ALL 120 teams are Post Spring/Pre Fall Camp ready; But more updates on NCAA 14 will occur during the Fall. So Later in fall if I have time I will update NCAA 12 again near the middle or end of Fall.
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*None of this would be possible without Vikesfan team of editors and some help from the jrriv4 XboxCommunity rosters merged into 1 complete roster file allowing us to enjoy the game earlier in the preseason. Special thanks to everyone involved!
*I went through Countless hours making this!

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This Conversion took many hours on a late Friday night, But just in time for the new College Football Season. Hope Everyone Enjoys it! (The Players and Teams data were converted from NCAA 14, but Coaches were left alone to release this faster. Maybe in the future I will take a look at coaches.)
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THE PURPOSE OF CONVERSIONS:
**To allow Every Xbox360 & PS3 owner with any of the last 3 versions of NCAA football to play the latest NCAA14 Vikesfan Season rosters. The Goal here is to keep NCAA football alive for everyone.
(So grab your correct conversion NCAA 12, 13 or 14.--each version is only compatible with each respective game.)


NCAA 11 ROSTER conversion (for the later 2020 season):is HERE

NCAA 12 ROSTER 2019-20 conversion is below
NCAA 13 ROSTER conversion:is HERE //(latest 2022-23 is HERE)
NCAA 14 ROSTER conversion is HERE //(latest 2022-23 is HERE)



PS2 and PSP (by antdroid)---antdroid may release a roster in the Fall after all Vikesfan teams are more completed.
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*All 120 teams are updated to 8-16-19 reflecting NCAA 13 & 14 roster sources.
Based on original NCAA 14 roster by the Vikesfan Team >> HERE
*College Football COACHES Poll preseason rankings are included.
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*I adjusted Xbox360 depth charts for a couple hours, but plenty more may be needed & some may be wrong.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Depth charts should be adjusted based on "Awareness" and not Overall rating since there is a bug indicating too low of a rating.
Also use Player "Position" & their "Class" (Sr,Jr,So,Fr) to better guess the depth chart of each time--this process must be done for hours "manually" to get every team done properly.

*PS3 requires all manual Depth Chart adjustments (since I do not own a PS3).
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*There may be OTHER ISSUES caused in the conversion (eg. Dynasty freezes, player face color, ratings.)

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-player Color and face may be wrong, since it had to be adjusted in the editor (PGHE) to make the file work.
-Dynasty mode may not work properly, but tested playing fine for Play exhibition & practice modes.
-Wrong Overall ratings of each player, but players may play fine & seem Rated ok according to Awareness rating. Ratings (Overall) look very odd so not completely sure it will cause more issues playing the game in the long run.
-Rosters had 1 lowest rated player removed on every team during 14-->12 Converions, so there is a chance a good important player was removed eg. OLs, DLs,LBs, P, K, S,FS,CB,QB,HB,or WR.

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*This roster WORKS! And that's the important thing! I spent countless hours & weeks on and off last year trying to make this work. Since there is still interest for NCAA 12, it was worth making this!
**One of the best things about NCAA 12 has been the Pre-Game Pageantry that has been shortened in NCAA 14; and Gameplay may be arguably better especially on Defense.
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*See The Current Interest for 2012 in the links below:
Great information by Tuscaloosa & Tarheelphenom

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/ncaa-football/955088-had-go-back-ncaa-12-a.html

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/ncaa-football/956715-ncaa-13-14-a.html#post2049871440

*You may have to adjust Sliders to get the best possible gameplay experience.
you will have to search the forum here for those.

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-More Details About the Conversion

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-Thanks to Brock for all previous help & work on 2016-17 roster that inspired me to make this.
-Face Data Re-calculation was required to be adjusted exactly 0.57 of NCAA 14 and 13 values (to prevent Game Freezes)
Thanks to Jhamilton9's Face recalculation spreadsheet data input to correct this.
-Depth Charts need adjusting on PS3, (since I do not own a PS3).
-XBOX360 roster has been auto adjusted, but some manual adjusting may be needed.
- A single player was removed on each team (excepth Nebraska & Maryland) to make the conversion since NCAA 12 only allows 68 player rosters. So some teams may be missing 1 important player.
-I have corrected Face Data based on Jhamilton's Spreadsheet.
-Coaches Names and ages have not been updated, and likeness may not be correct.

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GUIDES TO USE FILES

*Rostershare has been shutdown 2 years ago. So Offline File Method is now the only way to get them.
*Xbox360 users will need Modio 3 or Horizon to transfer file using a Windows PC and USB flash drive
*PS3 users only need a USB flash drive.
ENJOY.
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PS3/XB360 guides to use files with my Donation Link>>https://forums.operationsports.com/f...2&postcount=73
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Another list of instructions for xBOX360:

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Xbox360 offline NCAA file instructions are here: instructions for all NCAA 14,13, & 12 are generally the same.
1 First thing you will need is a Windows PC(sorry not possible with MAC since required software only runs on Windows).

2 Then you will need to install Modio 3 or 5.--see original link above where to download. Or find any other source to download from. (I prefer Modio3 since it seems more clear and intuitive).

3 Then you will need a USB flash drive that you can allow the Xbox360 to format & use it for all file transfers from a PC to the Xbox360.

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4 The first time you do file transfers you will need to copy and paste a roster file from your Xbox360 to the USB flash drive (through the xbox360 main menu settings storage screen.

5 Then open this Flash drive on your Windows PC and Study the folder structure created by the Xbox360. & figure out where the location of your roster files are on your flash drive. Navigate the menu of your Flash drive:
For NCAA 12 Game:
Content >E0000XXXXXXXX >4541094E >00000001 > (ALL your roster files are here) eg. ROSTER-XXXXX

For NCAA 13 Game:
Content >E0000XXXXXXXX >4541098A >00000001 > (ALL your roster files are here) eg. ROSTER-XXXXX

For NCAA 14 Game:
Content >E0000XXXXXXXX >454109B6 >00000001 > (ALL your roster files are here) eg. ROSTER-XXXXX
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6. Then open the roster on your PC with Modio3/5 to find out your Unique Xbox360 Profile and Device ID information. Copy this information down to a word or Text file and save it on your desktop for later use.

7. Then for all roster files you find on Operation sports that are 1.44 mb full save files, You can open up with Modio 3 or 5 and copy and paste your own Profile+Device ID information into the file and Click on Rehash&Save file.

8 Then move this file to the proper folder location on your flash drive. (see step 5 above).
9. Run your NCAA game and go through in game menu until you find "Settings" & "File Management" and click on it. Choose Load & delete option , then you may have to hold down LT button to reach Roster Files to load. Then choose X (select Device and choose USB storage device.) You may have to hold down LT button again to reach Roster Files list on your USB drive. Look for the name of your new roster file and try to load it up. If it loads without damaged roster error, then everything went ok. --Backout and go to Team management and rosters and see if new players show up. Enjoy the game.

FOR ALL MY EFFORTS TRYING TO KEEP NCAA FOOTBALL ALIVE FOR EVERYONE,
-If anyone would like to donate to all my efforts here on OS.
Please Go to my epay Link>LINK.

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Super archive of past seasons for all NCAA games including NCAA 12. Link below.

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049090383&postcount=98

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ENJOY the New College Football Season with NCAA12,13,or14!

[OBinKC]

Re: NCAA 12:Xbox360 & PS3) 2019-2020 Roster Conversion

Has anyone gotten this to work on PS3 for a dynasty? Once I load the rosters on my PS3 and try to start a dynasty, it freezes. I will say that I did make a couple of modifications to the depth chart, but wasn't sure if that would be a problem.

[pinbw]

Re: NCAA 12:Xbox360 & PS3) 2019-2020 Roster Conversion

Has anyone gotten this to work on PS3 for a dynasty? Once I load the rosters on my PS3 and try to start a dynasty, it freezes. I will say that I did make a couple of modifications to the depth chart, but wasn't sure if that would be a problem.

Sorry I cannot help with PS3. I'm glad you can atleast load up the file which is a good start. I know these should be playable for single games. I made it based on my NCAA 13 conversion. And I used the PS3 files from last year's 12-25-19 roster as base.

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/ncaa-football-rosters/941708-ncaa-football-12-2018-2019-roster-conversion-update-xbox360-ps3.html#post2049597774

(Not sure if others mentioned the dynasty freeze issues and a solution. But if there are also dynasty freeze issues in NCAA 13 which it's completely ported from, then it may be related. I'm unsure what is causing it, so this is "as is for now". I updated the Players and Teams data, so one of those files may be causing it.)

[MassChaos]

Re: NCAA 12:Xbox360 & PS3) 2019-2020 Roster Conversion

On Xbox, dynasty doesn't load past "generating schedule" for me. Disappointing because last years file works fine. Back to 14, I guess.

[pinbw]

Re: NCAA 12:Xbox360 & PS3) 2019-2020 Roster Conversion

Thanks for the feedback. I converted the "players" and "teams" data files, so one of those is probably causing the problems.

I don't have time to look at it yet... also no idea what is causing the problems in dynasty. If I have time in the future I will try to revisit this. (Updates are a little manageable to make from my NCAA 13 roster conversions---Still a lot of steps & time to make: delete worst player on each team & omit 3 teams and copy&paste most of the player data from it...but not sure when I will update this again.).

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The best I could do in the future is repackage a second choice file with only the players data updated. (And use last years file's team data with maybe only rankings updated). Then you could test the file. But If problems are from the Players data, I probably won't know where to make any changes since there are 8000+players to sift through where the problems might be originating.

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[MassChaos]

Re: NCAA 12:Xbox360 & PS3) 2019-2020 Roster Conversion

Yeah, a players only edit would be fine imo. Even the team rankings won't matter much after a few weeks of the season. Don't know if this helps at all, but the file from last year that works for me has mismatched colors on the menus.(Also teams have random offensive styles assigned to them) Don't know if maybe fixing that issue caused the problem or not. Again, imo, the mismatched colors aren't a big deal as long it works. Thanks for the work, let me know if you need any help.

[MassChaos]

Re: NCAA 12:Xbox360 & PS3) 2019-2020 Roster Conversion

I attempted to Copy the player data from your file to the file from last year. It's my first time using the editor to import/export so I'm not 100% sure i did everything right. The file loaded successfully, but dynasty still freezes at generating schedule.

Only thing I noticed was when importing your data and overwriting the old, it kept popping up that "#xyz was missing; skipped" not sure if thats normal or not though. I guess I could instead import the Team datas and see if the file works, That could at least narrow it down.

[pinbw]

Re: NCAA 12:Xbox360 & PS3) 2019-2020 Roster Conversion

I attempted to Copy the player data from your file to the file from last year. It's my first time using the editor to import/export so I'm not 100% sure i did everything right. The file loaded successfully, but dynasty still freezes at generating schedule.

Only thing I noticed was when importing your data and overwriting the old, it kept popping up that "#xyz was missing; skipped" not sure if thats normal or not though. I guess I could instead import the Team datas and see if the file works, That could at least narrow it down.

Update: I now remember what happened with that discolored menu roster. I accidentally copied and pasted a whole bunch of columns of data into TEAMS data from the middle column "L TB2B to U TRQB" --So the wrong data was shifted one column over. One of these columns of data might be causing dynasty to freeze. Maybe the number values are too high--which might be like the Face Colors needing a recalculation adjustment.


We might just try to use some default ncaa 12 roster data in one or some of these column of player data, instead of from the ncaa 14 data source.

(In Teams File: The columns L thru U are: TB2B,TBCB, TRDB, TFFB,TRLB,TFOB,TDPB,TOPB,TRQB,TRRB.)

If I was to venture to guess: problems may be coming from TDPB and TOPB--they stand for Defensive and Offensive Playbooks. These values are different in default file and the New values from NCAA 13, since playbooks may be using different values in ncaa 13 vs ncaa 12.--So I would change these values to see if it fixes everything.
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**I included a default NCAA 12 teams data file here to use to overlap data COLUMN R & S on new file.So if You want to try this now & experiment with it.(just copy Column R&S overlapped the new teams data in current file.
(I may try this later--but only you can tell me if Dynasty mode was fixed with this change.---if it is still not fixed then maybe some other data column has to be changed which is incompatible with values in the NCAA 14 game..(if freeze issues are related to players data, it may be more difficult to find the cause; pgid numbers might have been converted differently on the first discolored roster players data so I could try using that too. But that may cause depth charts needing a complete redo .)

Also if you want to dig deeper, you can find some older Roster files that work and compare the same Team Data columns of data with Default data, just to make sure we made the correct change to the roster data values. Also compare the PGID numbers of all 8000 players to see if we should use that numbering.)

[MassChaos]

Re: NCAA 12:Xbox360 & PS3) 2019-2020 Roster Conversion

Update: I now remember what happened with that discolored menu roster. I accidentally copied and pasted a whole bunch of columns of data into TEAMS data from the middle column "L TB2B to U TRQB" --So the wrong data was shifted one column over. One of these columns of data might be causing dynasty to freeze. Maybe the number values are too high--which might be like the Face Colors needing a recalculation adjustment.


We might just try to use some default ncaa 12 roster data in one or some of these column of player data, instead of from the ncaa 14 data source.

(In Teams File: The columns L thru U are: TB2B,TBCB, TRDB, TFFB,TRLB,TFOB,TDPB,TOPB,TRQB,TRRB.)

If I was to venture to guess: problems may be coming from TDPB and TOPB--they stand for Defensive and Offensive Playbooks. These values are different in default file and the New values from NCAA 13, since playbooks may be using different values in ncaa 13 vs ncaa 12.--So I would change these values to see if it fixes everything.
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**I included a default NCAA 12 teams data file here to use to overlap data COLUMN R & S on new file.So if You want to try this now & experiment with it.(just copy Column R&S overlapped the new teams data in current file.
(I may try this later--but only you can tell me if Dynasty mode was fixed with this change.---if it is still not fixed then maybe some other data column has to be changed which is incompatible with values in the NCAA 14 game..(if freeze issues are related to players data, it may be more difficult to find the cause; pgid numbers might have been converted differently on the first discolored roster players data so I could try using that too. But that may cause depth charts needing a complete redo .)

Also if you want to dig deeper, you can find some older Roster files that work and compare the same Team Data columns of data with Default data, just to make sure we made the correct change to the roster data values. Also compare the PGID numbers of all 8000 players to see if we should use that numbering.)

I'll try to give this a look next week, but also just to be clear, the file with the mismatched colors was the one from last year which works online. But yeah I was going to try looking at a default roster and looking for any big differences. I'll let you know if I find anything. If you can edit the file I can test it for sure. It'll take me longer to edit because I barely know what I'm actually doing lol

[MassChaos]

Re: NCAA 12:Xbox360 & PS3) 2019-2020 Roster Conversion

I copied the R and S columns from the default file to the new one and Dynasty still freezes when generating schedule. I'm wondering I'm going to test importing the default Team on one file and the default Player on another. That way we for sure what's causing the issues. I'll report back with my finding in a few.
*Update-It works*

I made 3 files- your file with default player, your file with default teams and default file with your player. The default player file corrupted during the process somehow but both the default file with your player and your file with default teams worked. So it's definitely an issue with the Teams info. I'm not sure if I can help with the that part, but hope this helps you.

[BV28]

Re: NCAA 12:Xbox360 & PS3) 2019-2020 Roster Conversion

I copied the R and S columns from the default file to the new one and Dynasty still freezes when generating schedule. I'm wondering I'm going to test importing the default Team on one file and the default Player on another. That way we for sure what's causing the issues. I'll report back with my finding in a few.
*Update-It works*

I made 3 files- your file with default player, your file with default teams and default file with your player. The default player file corrupted during the process somehow but both the default file with your player and your file with default teams worked. So it's definitely an issue with the Teams info. I'm not sure if I can help with the that part, but hope this helps you.

Hey I was getting freezing when it was generating schedule as well. You found a fix for it?

[MassChaos]

Re: NCAA 12:Xbox360 & PS3) 2019-2020 Roster Conversion

Hey I was getting freezing when it was generating schedule as well. You found a fix for it?

Yeah I can upload the file I'm using tomorrow. It does have some slight rating adjustments I made after week 1. (Very minimal things.) And I reordered depth charts because random players were playing QB on a few teams. You may still want to do this though. It only takes a few minutes. Team rankings aren't updated, as well as Prestige and stuff like that. It seems like some coaches are updated, but I noticed some were still from last year (Louisville had Petrino still for example, I changed him because I saw it but I think there's a few more).

[BV28]

Re: NCAA 12:Xbox360 & PS3) 2019-2020 Roster Conversion

Yeah I can upload the file I'm using tomorrow. It does have some slight rating adjustments I made after week 1. (Very minimal things.) And I reordered depth charts because random players were playing QB on a few teams. You may still want to do this though. It only takes a few minutes. Team rankings aren't updated, as well as Prestige and stuff like that. It seems like some coaches are updated, but I noticed some were still from last year (Louisville had Petrino still for example, I changed him because I saw it but I think there's a few more).

Cool! Looking forward to it.

[snowfleury29]

Re: NCAA 12:Xbox360 & PS3) 2019-2020 Roster Conversion

Any updates? I've run into the same issue when attempting to generate schedules on dynasty mode. Thanks a ton for all your work.

[pinbw]

Re: NCAA 12:Xbox360 & PS3) 2019-2020 Roster Conversion

Any updates? I've run into the same issue when attempting to generate schedules on dynasty mode. Thanks a ton for all your work.

I was hoping to get another update for this but just have no time at the moment. I just attempted updating NCAA 13 again. And I know the 2 games have some similarities. So if I was to update this then I would use the NCAA 13 roster and convert it down to NCAA 12. Shaving down 1 player from each team is the hard part about the NCAA 12 conversions since it only uses 68 player roster vs 69 players on NCAA 13 and 14 & and the next difficulty is using a mathematical conversion for player face# values...(so a bit difficult and time consuming right now).
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Whenever I'm ready to update this again, I need a refresher on how to fix the dynasty freezes-maybe Masschaos can upload his version and I can try to use it as a guide to update. --To Fix this problem in NCAA 12 which MassChaos helped figure out in previous posts.--I don't have time to fix this now due to too many projects and work these next 2 weeks. Maybe by End of October,November, or winter holidays.

Update: (I am hoping to make one more final update in January to use as base moving forward for next 2020-21 season.but no promises since I haven't had enough time this year.)

So I understand what masschaos discovered for fixing dynasty freeze issues:
My roster file + a default teams data file imported should allow dynasty to work ---not sure what was wrong with the updated teams data file. but it may also be contributing to dynasty freezes in ncaa 13.--I will hopefully get to the bottom of this.